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Wed Mar-05-08 07:18 AM
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That last Washington Journal caller is correct, it is too late for the Democratic Party to step in |
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and this campaign has done nothing but create hatred and bad feelings all around and stoke it. Hillary is not a fighter but a divider.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:20 AM
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I guess I won't support her anymore. Damn, And I had hope for her.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:21 AM
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2. I think the party needs to keep it going longer, even though it's |
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weakening us overall, especially when one candidate is doing the Republican's dirty work for them. Wyoming is up Saturday, I think, and Obama is expected to win. Let's get the winning streak going again and watch the delegate count. He's still got a decent lead.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:25 AM
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3. And the R's have what? they can't even decide who they |
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dislike more, Obama, Clinton or McCain.
Judging by the #'s of voters turning out for McCain...turn the toater up a notch, he's just about had it.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:33 AM
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Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 07:33 AM by Jawja
The Rethugs will march in lock-step behind McCain in November, especially if Hillary is his opponent.
It is a mistake to under estimate McCain.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:40 AM
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9. Kind of hard to under estimate McCain...and I don't think |
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the lockstep will work this time. Out here in Nebraska, the GOP is trying desperately to get some kind of order, but it isn't happening. I'm not saying we D's should rest on our collective laurels...but the GOP is in disarray, and they know it.
McCain is seen as nothing more than an extension of bush, and even my R friends cannot find a single thing they are happy about bush. There is a LOT to be said about that.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:36 AM
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6. They've got a huge mess in their own back yard |
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They've focused so much on the Dems that McCain has had a pass - so far.
Wait'll he looks for support from within the ranks of the GOP - it will be thin at best.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:44 AM
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10. I agree...and whomever our candidate is, they'll mop the |
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floor w/McCain when "debates" come into play. The R's have nothing, they know it, and they are using the time they have to find something, anything, to block a massive D rout.
Thye aren't going to find anything...all they will be able to do is send out fans and truckloads of dirt and crap. They have nothing, and McCain is about as inspiring as a doormat.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:57 AM
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12. Yes. The right is ripping mad that they've had to settle for McCain |
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Those fools over there will have a tough time mustering up the will to back him in the GE.
I think loads of them will sit home and not vote, just to "teach the GOP a lesson"
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:04 AM
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13. I think so as well...there is no motivation at all... |
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I've posted before that bush has torn the GOP to shreds. He is SO bad, that even die hard R's in my area feel a great deal of shame, and most moderate R's are simply appalled at what bush has done, they want change as well.
Regadless of wht they are talking about as priorities in the news...there are two, and they have been up there for a long time: The war, and looming recession/depression we are facing. GOP policies do not address either of these, except to the point where, "we will carry on" as the mantra. That alone is little more than a Swan Song, it is a call for defeat, on a massive scale.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:15 AM
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15. We must link McCain to Bush at every possible opportunity |
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Pictures, news stories, Iraq, the economy, energy policy (or lack of one) - everything that could possibly make voters think McCain will be Bush all over again.
Sort of a "If you liked Bush, you'll love McCain" bumper sticker
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Wed Mar-05-08 02:15 PM
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23. There was a thing on the radio about how bush is endorsing |
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McCain today...talk about tying an anchor to one's neck...:rofl:
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:35 AM
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How DARE she have the audacity to actually try to win?!?!
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:37 AM
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7. I don't see Obama Uniting or fighting for the Democratic party. |
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He does seem to be uniting the republican party though.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:40 AM
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Truly. I'm sure you have something to back up that rather odd assertion.
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Wed Mar-05-08 07:45 AM
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CA, FL, MI, MA, TX, OH, just to name a few. And we all know what he has said about Reagan.
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Wed Mar-05-08 11:25 AM
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21. I don't see Hillary untiting anyone, and I do see her |
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tearing the Democratic Party apart before our eyes.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:10 AM
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14. While I don't hate anyone, |
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Obama's campaign hasn't exactly endeared him to me, either.
Obama is more interested in uniting with the republican and religion-based politikers than he is in bringing in the left wing of the party and independent and 3rd party voters on the left.
The battle between HRC and Obama is certainly ugly, but both sides share the blame.
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Wed Mar-05-08 11:27 AM
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22. For the first time in a long time, I see a Democratic Party candidate |
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actually trying to pull the center to the left and not tack farther to the right--something the Clintons are notorious for doing.
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Wed Mar-05-08 09:20 PM
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25. You and I don't see through the same lens. |
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I don't see someone who wants to pursue the bogus "war on terror," who wants to leave private health insurance and pharmaceutical companies "at the table" on health care, someone who supports merit pay for teachers and thinks privatizing parts of public education might be a good thing, or someone who remembers Ronald Reagan more fondly than the liberals he wants to leave behind, as "pulling the center to the left."
I'm no fan of the Clintons; either of them. Yet, I find HRC's platform to be more liberal than Obama's which shocks me. I find Obama's platform to fit DLC positions like a glove, and he's supposed to be the non-DLC candidate.
I don't want ANY of them to be president. My wants or needs are not likely to make a difference in the process or the results, of course, but I don't have to pretend that either of them result in a positive outcome.
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Wed Mar-05-08 09:25 PM
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26. Obama campaign has been pure |
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as the driven snow compared to hilary's down and dirty slush ball tactics.
Obama's has been brilliant and hilaryland offers us dirty tricks that started when she voted for the IWR after she didn't read the NIE..and her supporters couldn't care less.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:18 AM
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16. Hillary is going to destroy the party and McCain is going to win the GE. n/t |
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:21 AM
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:23 AM
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19. Not if Hillary wins the nomination. If she does, I'm done. |
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She can't beat McCain in the GE and I have better things to do with my time.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:19 AM
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17. Obama said he wasn't ready, and that he'd serve his senate term before running... |
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looks like he should have been a man of his word.
2025. He ain't there.
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Wed Mar-05-08 08:24 AM
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20. We're all taking this primary entirely too personally |
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This is a primary. Either one, Hillary or Obama, will make a formidable foe for McCain. We need to keep our eyes on the prize: getting rid of any trace of Republicans in the WH and Congress.
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Wed Mar-05-08 02:19 PM
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24. It is personal for me..... |
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I "personally" don't want a Nominee who advocates the politics of hate, fear and division....or neither do I want a President that would believe that these tactics is how to win the hearts of Americans and the International community.
Shock and Awe is all that Hillary did...dropping her negativity bombs here and there.
So yes, for me, it is personal.
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