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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:33 PM
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This convention is going to suck.
Just in case you didn't know. :rofl:
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:34 PM
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1. For Clinton
Because after her past is exposed she will likely not even show her face there.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:35 PM
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2. One can only hope.
;-)
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:36 PM
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4. I'll be there making it suckier for Clinton if she brings her lawyers.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:57 PM
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13. For Florida and Michigan delegates.
they'll be outside with the protesters.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:35 PM
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3. The convention is going to rock!
A contested convention? Are ya kidding me? This will be the coolest ever. I'm storing up popcorn just for the show.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:41 PM
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8. Huge waste of Dem energy and $$$ as the fight rages on and on...
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 02:42 PM by RiverStone
While we are taking it to the 15th round, McCain is the one sitting on his war mongering ass gathering money and conserving energy. :popcorn:

There is NO upside to a contested convention!

Well, on the .0001 chance that Al Gore is chosen as the compromise candidate - I could be convinced.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:55 PM
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12. Actually money raised for the nomination season fights can't be used in the general election
Not one penny of money saved during the pre-convention races can be applied to the general election.
The "it's costing us money" argument is bogus.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:23 PM
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19. Appreciate the clarity...
But then, what will Obama do with all those extra millions once the GE fight begins?

And as an aside, even giving what you said as truth - there is still the human cost of time away from regular life to fight and fight and fight.

There are intangible costs associated with all the volunteer hours given to a campaign.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:43 PM
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10. Thank you!


If you can make it over to Missouri we can watch it together. You bring the popcorn, I'll supply the vodka right out of my freezer. I think it'll be a great thing to watch.

I wish they'd have their own cable channel that week. I'd so consider a subscription.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:36 PM
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5. You can thank Hillary for that! She couldn't just stick to the issues . . .
No, that would have cost her the nomination for sure. Couldn't have that.
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Independent-Voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:38 PM
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6. It's going to suck more than a Whitehouse intern!
You gotta know the longer Veruca stays in, the more of this kind of stuff is going to come up.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:38 PM
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7. not if the pretenders are swept aside and big Al accepts the nomination
thus getting rid of both the war supporter candidates.

well one can hope, and isnt hope what one candidate's campaign is all about?

Msongs
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:42 PM
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9. It is going to be the most exciting, most watched convention in Democratic history.
If you believe otherwise, you're fooling yourself.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:47 PM
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11. I really think I need to
prepare a vodka watermelon for the event. (you know-inject a watermelon full of vodka and let it sit-perfect for the summertime!) A fellow "feminazi" friend stated this morning that she would bring over the Jello shots and another stated that she'd bring the brats.

We're hoping that they'll air every last bit of it. It'll be the best viewing of the summer!

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:00 PM
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14. I guess we'll make some whoop juice here!
LOL.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:20 PM
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20. I just think
that it's gonna be a hell of a party.

When was the last time you were truly excited about watching convention coverage?
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:02 PM
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15. If we don't have a nom by then.. McCain will have a 6 month headstart on money and headlines.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:17 PM
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18. How do you figure?
He'll be stuck in the background while the attention will be focused on Hillary and Barack and the horse race.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:03 PM
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16. It will have to go some distance to beat 1968
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 03:25 PM by ben_meyers
for those of you too young to remember.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:04 PM
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17. and a little history here: Obama and The Myth of Pledged Delegates
Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Obama and The Myth of Pledged Delegates
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4906504#4906504
4906504, Obama and The Myth of Pledged Delegates
Posted by rodeodance on Wed Mar-05-08 12:05 PM

Its the process that counts folks:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-schlesinger/obama-and-the-myth-of-ple_b_89977.html


Obama and The Myth of Pledged Delegates

Posted March 5, 2008 | 10:15 AM (EST)


There is no rule in the politics of Democratic Party conventions that says that the contender with the largest number of pledged delegates short of the total required for nomination should automatically, by dint of that achievement, be handed the party's designation. This argument is now being put forth by Senator Obama's campaign.


Such a contention is belied by the modern-day history of Democratic conventions. In 1912, the Democratic Speaker of the House of Representatives, Champ Clark, went to the Baltimore convention with the largest number of delegates, around 440, Woodrow Wilson was second with 324, trailed by a few others -- with two thirds of the convention vote required for nomination. Champ Clark was not then allowed to proclaim himself victorious simply because he led the pack. Rather the proceedings went through almost 50 ballots over a week's period that, after much maneuvering, resulted in Wilson accumulating enough delegates to secure the nomination.

In 1932, Franklin Roosevelt arrived at the Democratic Convention this time with the most delegates -- having won them through some primaries and some Democratic state organizations -- but still short of the requisite two-thirds majority. Despite this lead, the party did not hand him the nomination. He had to proceed through four ballots to achieve it.

….Read this omitted paragraph for another good example………

Now today some in the Obama campaign and in the media are dismissing the importance of Hillary Clinton's victories in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island as unimportant. For they argue that, by any careful analysis of the delegate selection process under the present Democratic Party proportional representation system, whatever delegate totals Senator Clinton wins through the end of this year's primary season, will not be able to overcome Senator Obama's current unsurpassable lead over Senator Clinton and therefore Obama will deserve the support of the so-called "super delegates" and should gain the nomination. But that is not how it works as we have seen in past Democratic conventions. A lead in pledged delegates is not enough. You still have to convince your party that you are the best nominee. That is what the next stage of this election is all about.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 04:23 PM
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21. The nominee will be in place by then. nt
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