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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:46 PM
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Wolfson says they will release Hillary's tax return information "on or around" April 15, which is...
exactly ONE WEEK before the PA primary.

Bwhahahahahaha...This shit is just heating up.

:popcorn:
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:47 PM
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1. Are they talking about 2006 returns?
She hasn't released those.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:49 PM
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6. There's a curious pattern here. "What's she hiding"?
A campaign memo on HRC and her tax returns... asking "What does Clinton have to hide?"

TO: Interested Parties

FR: The Obama Campaign

RE: TAX RETURNS: What does Clinton have to hide?

DA: March 5, 2008


The Clinton campaign today maintained that “the vetting of Barack Obama has just begun.” The truth is, more than a year into this campaign, some very simple vetting of Hillary Clinton has yet to start.


In the face of her unwillingness to release her tax returns, Hillary Clinton has made the false case in this campaign that she is more electable because she has been fully vetted. When it comes to her personal finances, Senator Clinton’s refusal to release her taxes returns denies the media and the American people the opportunity to even begin that process. Though her campaign has tried to kick the issue down the road, Democratic voters deserve to know, right now, why it is she is hiding the information in her tax returns from last year.


The Clinton campaign has said that they have released copious amounts of financial information but there are many questions about their private dealings that could be answered in their tax returns but not in the information that is currently available. For example, here are eight pieces of information that could be learned from her tax returns, the accompanying schedules, and attachments:


* Effective tax rate – including whether or not any tax shelters were used to reduce it
* Amount of income for spouses by source
* Amount of stock gains and losses
* Gross income for the couple
* Amount earned from stock dividends
* Amount of household employment taxes paid
* Personal exemptions taken
* Charitable contributions made


Senator Clinton has also claimed that she is too “busy” to release her tax returns. Given the fact she is able to loan her campaign $5 million, you would think the Clintons would be able to hire an accountant. The reality is that she wants to keep this information hidden from voters. The people of Wyoming, Mississippi, Pennsylvania and the rest of the country should wonder why.


The Clintons’ record on releasing tax returns:


FEBRUARY 2008: Clinton Reiterated That She Would Not Release Her Tax Records Until She Is The Nominee And Not Before Mid-April. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton says she won't release her tax returns until she has the Democratic presidential nomination in hand, and not before tax filing time comes in mid-April. "I will release my tax returns," Clinton said during the debate. "I have consistently said I will do that once I become the nominee, or even earlier." Pressed about the timing of releasing her tax returns, campaign aides were more reticent Wednesday, indicating that Clinton would not release the sensitive financial data during a hotly contested primary, but only at tax filing time.


JUNE 2007: Clinton Does Not Plan to Release Her Tax Returns Until Next Year. According to the Washington Post, Clinton said through a spokesman that, “like past presidential candidates,” she will “release tax information in the election year.”


APRIL 12, 1996: Clinton Released His Tax Returns. President Clinton and his wife earned $316,074 in 1995, including the president's $200,000 salary, according to tax returns released Friday by the White House. The public release of the tax returns, three days before the April 15 filing deadline, shows that Clinton and first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton are owed a refund of $5,656 on the $81,093 they paid in taxes, and will apply that refund to their 1996 income taxes.


April 15, 1992: Bill Clinton Made His Tax Returns Public. APRIL 15, 1992: Bill Clinton made his tax returns made public.


Bill Clinton Released His Tax Returns In 1992 But Refused To Release Their Tax Returns From Before 1980. During the 1992 campaign, the Clintons claimed to be coming clean by releasing their tax returns from 1980 forward. But they steadfastly refused to release their returns for prior years, and only later did we learn that 1978 and 1979 were the tax years when Mrs. Clinton reported her 10,000% cattle-futures trading profit.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/obama_campaign_strikes.php
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:47 PM
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2. Is that enough time to doctor it?
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:13 PM
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33. They don't want to release the earlier - 2006 return.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:47 PM
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3. Yeah riiiiiiight! Anybody want to buy a bridge?
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:48 PM
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4. ummm, he said this on This Week on Sunday to David Axelrod. Give it a break. nt
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:51 PM
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11. No shit. I saw smarmy on there. What does that have to do with anything?
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 02:53 PM by jefferson_dem
My point is that if the shoes drops it might just happen before her "last gasp" primary.

EDIT: The Clinton Camp released a memo reminding us of that due date today.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:57 PM
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17. you lead people to believe Obama will only go negative if he has too. he was going negative before
Tuesday.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:49 PM
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5. We need to see it now to find where the graft is coming from
that props up this low class candidate.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:49 PM
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7. it's gonna take that long to line up the explanations and talking points?
it must be loaded with goodies.
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bleowheels Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:50 PM
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8. And I say the media should ask Hillary everyday where her tax returns are.
She has resources. Her campaign could get her records together if they wanted. This is just bullshit to stall and they know it.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:52 PM
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12. What does April 15th, 2008
have to do with 2006 tax returns?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:51 PM
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9. Alright all you old people. How long SHOULD it take if she started working on it today.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:53 PM
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13. There's nothing
to "work" on. Her 2006 returns are already done....as far as I know :).
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:14 PM
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34. There's nothing to work on. I'm sure her 2006 tax return has been already filed
and the copy is sitting in some file cabinet.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:51 PM
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10. Why the delay?
I like the equivocation, they could never release them.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:53 PM
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14. Seriously what are they hiding?
This is actually starting to scare me a bit. What could be in there that is soooo damaging? If it was just a matter of nit-picking, releasing it early would help them dispel it's immediate effect. Instead, by releasing it late, they're trying to stop people from finding something in it before they can win an election. hmmmm
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:58 PM
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19. Maybe Obama
should do a ad showing Hillary's maid calling Hillary....(and it ringing a couple of times)...Hillary answers the phone and her maid says, "I got into your file cabinet and gave the nice man at the door your 2006 tax returns"....pan to the video of Hillary screaming, "Shame on you"!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:59 PM
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20. Why presume they're hiding anything?
It was never a tradition or even expected that candidates for the nomination release their tax returns. Obama was the first to do it, so he could use it as exactly this kind of cudgel to attack Clinton with.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:00 PM
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22. But why won't she release them?
What does she have to hide exactly?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:03 PM
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25. she is going to release them
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:05 PM
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29. Because they have refused to release them so far.
How many years should pass for an honest look?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:54 PM
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15. The primary is April 22
Somehow I have a feeling that they will interpret "around April 15" as April 23.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:55 PM
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16. Then we need to raise holy hell until then asking why they are holdling back.
Helllooo...media. Do your fucking job!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:10 PM
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32. Agreed the media and DU members and the voters need to ask her every hour of every day
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO HIDE CLINTON!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 02:58 PM
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18. "On or around"
So if they wait until after Pennsylvania, they're covered. :thumbsup:
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:00 PM
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21. "on or around April 15......"
Betcha those returns won't be made public in time for the deciphering to be completed so PA democrats understand her personal finances.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:02 PM
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24. We cannot let
the Hillary campaign confuse this by claiming an April 15th date....as if we're asking for THIS years return. The people are CLEARLY asking for her 2006 return and IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH APRIL 15TH, 2008.

There's nothing to "get together". IT'S IN HER FRIGGIN FILE CABINET.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:10 PM
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31. What? You can't possibly be accusing the Clintons of being..
disingenous?



:sarcasm:
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:01 PM
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23. If you want to see her past tax returns I believe that they are on record
somewhere because she is a senator.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:05 PM
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27. No....
SHE HAS NOT RELEASED HER 2006 RETURNS. Obama did last year. That is what we're asking for. She's just trying to confuse the issue by using an April 15th comply date.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:05 PM
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26. Why wait till then?
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:05 PM
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28. Sadly, April 23 is "around' April 15...
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:07 PM
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30. Obama needs to pounce on this.
There is stuff in her Tax returns she dosent want us gaining enough time to expose before PA.

So the worst needs to be assumed. Obama just needs to go into the past and state why it is so important she shows them NOW. Multiple years worth too!

SHOW THE TAXES CLINTON! WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO HIDE?!
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 03:16 PM
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35. Exactly and this article explains why.
From Americablog:

The candidates preceding Hillary released their returns before they were the nominee. According to the Washington Post, "Sen. John F. Kerry released his returns in December 2003, long before winning the nomination; Vice President Al Gore's returns, of course, were already public." And Kucinich, Dean, Clark, Gephardt, and even evil Joe Lieberman released his returns.

Then there's Bill Clinton. In 1992, Bill Clinton made his tax returns public during the primaries. But, there was a catch. He didn't release his 1979 and 1978 tax returns. Those were the returns showing that Hillary had made a 10,000% cattle-futures profit that raised a few eyebrows.

So is that why Hillary isn't releasing her returns? Because she knows that sometimes tax returns hide things that might appear (or be) scandalous? But even that argument doesn't make sense since Hillary has promised to release her returns AFTER she becomes the nominee. That means that she has no privacy interest in her tax returns, she's going to let the public see them soon anyway, but she simply doesn't want Democratic voters to get the chance to have her tax returns inform their vote during the primaries.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/why-are-hillary-and-john-mccain.html
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