WHERE IS THE 50 DELEGATE BOMB, RE: BROKAW?

[thoughtcrime1984]

Was there no truth to that? I am wondering why he would say that if there is no truth to it.

[shadowknows69]

1. He doesn't need it yet

[democrattotheend]

2. I hope they have not changed their minds

In light of last night.

[Kaylee]

3. I'm just comforted that they are still trickling in...he got 4 since yesterday.

[anigbrowl]

4. Patience, young padewan

1) it's a rumor - for all we know, Brokaw was just stirring the pot

2) Obama will want to release funding totals for February first and give that time to sink in

3) It might be better to work towards a win in Wyoming next Saturday or even one in Mississippi next Tuesday and then announce it

4) Obama campaign doesn't want to look like they're under pressure or being sore losers

5) any other reasons I haven't thought of yet

[sueragingroz]

50. i wonder how much of that february $ was blown on the so-called knock-out punch in O and T?

[Skwmom]

5. I think that is a hand they will play carefully. Clinton could care

less whether the phony playing of the victim/gender card guarantees a Republican win and 3 McCain appointed Supreme Court Justices. So it's a balancing act - so Hillary can't cry about the mean male superdelegates ganging up on her to push her out of the race.

[truedelphi]

6. I missed Brokaw's comment

Have never had any use for this guy - but what did he say?

[Generic Brad]

52. He said

Rrrrr rrr rrr. Rrrrr rrrr rrrrrr rr rrr r rrrrrr rr 50 delegate rrrrr rrr rrrrrrr.

[Alhena]

7. After next week's Mississippi win would be the right time to release them

[not_too_L8]

8. according to the count

Monday Hillary had 230 something supers today she has 238

Monday Obama had 130 something supers and today he has 199

more than 50 gained

[Renew Deal]

16. I don't know what you're talking about. Obama had 198 yesterday

He gained 1 that I know of today.

[oasis]

38. Super delegates will be in a holding pattern until the Rezko trial's damage to Obama

is determined.

[bigtree]

9. .

:rofl:

[writes3000]

17. So mature. I'd laugh if it wasn't just sad.

[bigtree]

18. In this pocket, I have the names of 50 . . .

:rofl:

[writes3000]

26. Obama has already gotten 4 SDs in less than 24 hours.

How many has Hillary gotten in that same time?

Just asking.

[grantcart]

10. They may decide its better to drip it out

in the last 30 days they have announced 66 versus 16 for Hillary.

[Perky]

11. It hasbeen confirmed on politico as well I am not sure when they are going public

I heard on MSNBC last night that they migh drip them out over time. I think the Bloc would be far more compelling.

[Renew Deal]

12. They weren't going to release it all at once.

We'll see what happens.

[jsamuel]

13. Clinton won TX and OH, so they backed out.

Pure speculation, but it may have hinged on Clinton losing one or both of those states.

[democrattotheend]

19. I think you may be right, unfortunately

[LostinVA]

21. That's what I was wondering earlier today

[MercutioATC]

22. Clinton has NOT won Texas yet....

Can we at least finish doling out delegates before declaring a "winner"?

[jsamuel]

25. she won the TX primary

[MercutioATC]

27. Yes, but Obama very may well win the Texas caucus.

...and if he wins by enough, he'll carry more delegates in Texas which, I think we all agree, is what a "win" consists of.

[BzaDem]

35. Hahaha

Yup, Obama wins because he got more of his supporters to vote TWICE. Nice to know that DU still stands for one person one vote.

[writes3000]

39. Did they NOT follow the rules? Did no Hillary voters vote twice?

Or are you just making a hypocritical argument?

[MercutioATC]

40. As we've discussed before, Clinton's caucus voters "voted twice" too.

That's within the rules.

The fact that many only voted in the primaries does speak to their commitment to her campaign, though. They couldn't be bothered to vote in the caucus.

[BzaDem]

48. Right...

The fact that they couldn't bother to spend 5 HOURS in line after they ALREADY VOTED to vote again.

I guess your right. It should be one hour, one vote. Makes sense to me.

</sarcasm>

The rules certainly say that there should be a caucus. But the rules do NOT give pledged delegates the final say. So the fact that he "won" Texas because he did well among voters who voted twice is just spin. Or you could say, Hillary got the most number of people to vote for her in Texas, so she wins. What a concept.

[MercutioATC]

29. oops...dupe

.

[writes3000]

14. Wait for Mississippi.

Some will trickle in before that but I expect the majority to wait until Mississippi.

[scheming daemons]

15. Trickling them in over the next several days.... 4 already since last night...

....

[democrattotheend]

20. Who are the 4?

I have the mayor of Dayton and a DNC person from Georgia. Who are the other 2?

[Bigleaf]

23. Here are the 4

SC Democratic Party Chair Carol Fowler
DNC member Mary Long of Georgia
Georgia Democratic Party chairwoman Jane Kidd
Dayton, Ohio Mayor (and superdelegate) Rhine McLin

[Horse with no Name]

30. Wow another superdelegate not representing the will of her constituents n/t

[writes3000]

32. Where's your smiley face? I just saw it. n/t

[stillcool]

49. take a look...

UnPledged Super-delegates by state.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/superdeleg.pdf

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html
Friday, February 22, 2008
Superdelegate Endorsement List

Here's a list of superdelegates to the 2008 Democratic Convention that have officially announced who they plan to nominate.

We have also created a list of superdelegates that have not committed to a candidate.

[grantcart]

53. two more after that Brooks (TX) and Burnett (IL)

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html

[writes3000]

24. PS - I never expected to all announce on the same day

And the Obama campaign doesn't want it that way.

They'd much prefer a slow, constant stream of support. Each one holds more power and influence.

And that way each SD gets their own press.

[Horse with no Name]

28. Very possible some are rethinking their positions after the Clinton wins last night

:)

[writes3000]

31. Very possible that they're simply waiting for their turn to endorse.

With so many of them, there's sure to be a long line waiting to endorse.

[Yes We Did]

33. Hillary got on the phones as soon as they mentioned it.

Randi was just talking about it. Got them to wait.

[tokenlib]

34. Trickle them in like Chinese water torture...n/t

[woolldog]

36. It would seem too undemocratic

If the day after Clinton's win, 50 superdelegates in a bloc went to Obama. IT would make the voters in Ohio, Texas and RI, feel disenfranchised and as if the party brass were canceling out their votes.

I would hope Obama is more politic than to do that. He's playing it cautiously and close to the vest.

If I were devising strategy for the Obama campaign I would bring them out after victories in Wymoming and Mississippi OR shortly before the PA primary.

[writes3000]

37. And they won't come out all at once...for the earlier reasons you stated.

They will come out slowly. There's more advantage to it all around.

But it's interesting that FOUR have come out already, no?

[IDemo]

41. It was stated last night that they would announce over the next few weeks

not all at once. I forget if it was Brokaw who said this or another talking head on the discussion.

[loveangelc]

42. I heard it was dependent on him winning tx.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

43. SD's Probably Got Some Cold Feet After Last Night. They Ain't Gonna Make A Move Yet.

[writes3000]

44. That's your opinion. Not a fact.

And the fact that Obama has continued collect SDs since last night suggests that maybe they haven't all frozen in place.

[Wayjose]

45. Donna Brazile is furious with Hillary

you can hear her tone saying that if Hillary continues to tear down and damage Obama, the Superdelegates will end her campaign by rescuing Obama decisevely.

[Beausoir]

47. That's not what I heard her say on NPR several weeks ago.

She said if it got down to SD's, she'd quit the Democratic party in protest.

[dansolo]

51. That's not what she said

She said that if the SD overrode the winner of popular vote/pledged delegates, she would quit.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

46. Psssttttt.... Hey...... Genius..... I Never Said Otherwise....

And ya see the word 'probably'? Yeah, that word kind of has meaning. It kinda means not definite. Kinda means not fact. Are you ok?