I just donated to Obama.... and here is why.

[kevin881]

After the negativity that Hillary displayed in this last week in order to try to get Ohio (she did) and Texas (she did NOT, check caucus results and add up the delegates), I am seething.

Let me first state that I WOULD have voted for Hillary with pleasure if she were the nominee BEFORE this last week. If she had won the pledged delegates, so be it, I would have been the first one at my polling place in November to vote for her... but after the NAFTA lies, the 3am call crap, the darkening of Obama's photo implied racism, and the general mocking she displayed of Obama's speeches... I will abstain from voting all together, rather than vote for her in November.

If she is staying in this race, knowing she cannot win the pledged delegates, in order to try to politically wrestle super-delegates into submission... then that is the antithesis of democracy: and she is only in this to satisfy her ego or her hunger for power, not for the people as she claims.

The media spin might take a couple days to wear off, but she did not WIN or COME BACK last night. She did not achieve what she needed to do: to cut deeply into Obama's delegate lead. She gained between 4-12 on him... thats it!

Obama should rightfully be the nominee, and I am contributing to his campaign to try to help offset the deeply entrenched political machine that Hillary has set up over the last 12 years.

[oldtime dfl_er]

1. Are you a Democrat?

Just askin'.

[LittleClarkie]

2. Would you ask the same if the topic was not voting for Obama

Just askin'

[kevin881]

3. Why do you ask? I prefer no party affiliation, and call myself a LIBERAL. -nt

[Bake]

5. For one thing, this is the DEMOCRATIC Underground.

Some of us a PROUD to be Democrats. Too bad you're not.

Bake

[kevin881]

7. Oh wait, so I need to support the establishment DEM candidate to be proud?

Or is it that I need to align myself with a "team" as opposed to making an independent choice about who to vote for?

Either way, your logic is flawed.

I am here because I believe that the democrat's ideology more closely resembles what I believe in.

Am I unwelcome here because I am not engaged in spitting on other participants in the forum? Look at the date I have been registered here since. Maybe I do not post much, but I am certainly active reading what has been posted.

[Cha]

11. You're a hilary supporter so that makes

you proud to support dinos.

[Bake]

14. Ooooh ... I'm one of those evil Hillary supporters!

I've been called far worse by better people .... God, this place gets more toxic by the day. Skinner should've closed registration when the primaries began.

Bake

[kevin881]

17. nobody is calling you evil... you put words in her mouth...

similar to what your candidate has done to Obama.
But your comment to me makes no sense, and I hope you realize that. You started an argument with an insult. Sad, but if you represent the average Clinton supporters, then I see why she has so much support: average intellect is far more pervasive in our culture than high intelligence. :)

[Bake]

20. I didn't insult you. You were asked if you are a Democrat and your response suggested otherwise.

You are quite happy to eschew party labels, by your own admission. If that's an insult, you did it to yourself. Once again, this is the DEMOCRATIC Underground.

Bake

[kevin881]

29. insult and forum rules inside:

bake: "some of us are proud to call ourselves democrats. too bad you are not one."


From DU.com "about us" page:
"We welcome Democrats of all stripes, along with other progressives who will work with us to achieve our shared goals. While the vast majority of our visitors are Democrats, this web site is not affiliated with the Democratic Party, nor do we claim to speak for the party as a whole."

[Cha]

25. And so disingenous..but,

look at your leader..the lying warmonger who couldn't even be bothered to read the 90 page NIE before she voted for the IWR and gave her own little disingenuous speech on the senate floor.

[pbca]

It says in the rules

that the site is not only for DEMOCRATS. You should read them.

I'm not a dem. I'm a independent - I lean way left and I support Obama but if Hillary gets the nod I'll be out of here.

[Bake]

23. I'm well familiar with the DU rules. I've been here since 2001.

And I'll be here after the primaries are over, and after the GE is over. But if your candidate loses, you're outta here.

You won't be missed.

Bake

[pbca]

26. Wow, you're not going to miss me..that really hurts

[kevin881]

4. and if you have RFK in your avatar... and you are voting for Hillary after the last week....

...you need to change your avatar photo or change your candidate.

[Cha]

10. That's a stupid question.

and doesn't even deserve a response but I see the OP was polite enough to give you one, anyway.

[Bake]

15. Given that we're supposed to be determining the DEMOCRATIC candidate

I think it's a fair question. I'd prefer it if DEMOCRATS decided who should represent our party in the general election.

Bake

[kevin881]

18. do the 20% of the population that identify themselves as independents count? -nt

[Bake]

27. They count, certainly, in the GE

But we're determining the DEMOCRATIC candidate. What part of that don't you get? I don't vote in the Repub primary, and I don't give a crap who they nominate. I care about the DEMOCRATIC party.

Frankly, I'd be a lot happier if we had closed primaries. But I don't make the rules.

Bake

[kevin881]

31. This is absurd....

So if an independent decides he/she would rather vote for Obama than McCain, but McCain over Hilary... then his/her primary vote should not be part of the decision making process?

HAHAHAHAH!

[stillcool]

24. I changed my affiliation...

after the 2006 no account Congress. I am 51 years old and live in Massachusetts. I have never voted for a Republican. Would you prefer I not be allowed to vote for a Democratic candidate? Is there some life-long-pledge you would have me sign before I can vote? Some democracy.

[Bake]

28. If you're not happy as a Democrat, you're welcome to wait until the GE

We're determining who the Democratic candidate will be. Nobody's disenfranchising your general election vote.

Bake

[kevin881]

32. You are officially declared ignorant of the democratic process as a whole.

Please stop posting you are embarrassing hillary supporters.

[Bake]

35. Wow. I am in awe of your rapier-sharp wit and logic!

Go get another latte.

Bake

[kevin881]

37. get another latte? is that the best you can do?

You post about preventing people from participating in DEMOCRACY and I call you out on it... you tell me to go get Starbucks? Is that the best you can do?

I am sorry lets just vote for whoever the superdelegates tell us to! In fact, to hell with primaries at all... lets just vote for whatever Dem/Repub they drop in front of us!

[stillcool]

34. I already voted in the Primary...

no thanks to people like you. I changed my affiliation in protest. I guess you don't like that kind of thing either. Maybe you should be in charge of who is allowed to vote and who isn't. We don't suppress enough votes as it is.

[progdog]

6. Thanks Kevin

[Cha]

8. It's the Obama "Do The Math" fund!

It's fun to give to help Obama fight the four pronged attacks from hilary, m$$$m(big mouth rush included), mccain, and the beltway insiders.

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/math?source=20080305_M4R_1_D_L1

[AtomicKitten]

9. Thank you for your clarity on this.

:)

[grantcart]

12. she is staying in the race to continue to rake in $ 1 million a day

she also has $25 million for the GE. Sometime between now and April 15 she is going to withdraw and make it appear she is taking the high road. She will have $ 50 million in her warchest and never have to do another fund raiser again. She can use it to become majority leader. And if she can damage Barack enough then he loses the GE and she can run in 2012.

Thanks for you support to Obama

[Cha]

13. hilary has deluslions of grandeur..

no way the country is going to stand for another hilary divide and fall flat.

[grantcart]

16. I understand your opinion

but I am thinking she has her eyes on a concrete $ 50 million vision.

[RaleighNCDUer]

19. Or you could, as I probably will do, simply not vote for president.

Find all the most progressive liberals down ticket, vote for all of them. That way, if McCain beats Hillary, you've helped establish a real opposition party to him. And if Hillary SOMEHOW manages to beat McCain, you've help establish a real opposition party to her.

Because if EITHER of them win, we will need all the real democrats possible to stand up to them.

[kevin881]

21. Love your suggestion... I think I will just do that *if* she is the nominee -nt

[NMMatt]

22. I agree completely -nt

[cooolandrew]

30. Cindy Sheehan 2006 "HRC is a power mongerer" I'm all for hopemongering sounds just the ticket.

Note Cindy said this after several meetings with HRC, she wanted to beleive inHillary.

[anonymous171]

33. Whoah. She really said that?

[otohara]

36. So Did I, First Time

I also donated to Dennis Kucinich for his congressional seat.

[moondust]

38. Same boat.

I donated to Obama first thing this morning for the same reasons.