theboss
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:29 PM
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What did the Clintons do from 1992 to 2005 to fix this apparently flawed process? |
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Caucuses are undemocratic. Red states have too much say. The distribution of delegates is unfair. Republicans and Independents are allowed to crossover. All these factors have hurt Hillary and have favored Obama.
My question is this: The Clintons had control of the DNC from his nomination in 1992 through the resignation of Terry McAullife in February 2005. That was 12 and a half years in which they could have pretty much passed any rule that they wanted to make the system more fair.
What steps did they take to fix the system?
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Tesha
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:32 PM
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1. It wasn't broken until Barack broke it. ;-) (NT) |
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Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 02:33 PM by Tesha
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theboss
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:40 PM
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4. My biggest frustration with Hillary is when she plays this "confused outsider" role |
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She and her husband ran the whole damn party for a decade and a half. In 1997, if Bill Clinton had demanded that the Party change its name to the Clinton Party, it would have.
But that has always been my problem with both of them. I still think he was a great President. I think she was a good First Lady. I think she has been a shockingly good Senator. (I was heaping praise on her a year ago on this site).
However, they have always seen the DNC has a tool for them to use not as themselves as a tool for the DNC. They narrowed the DNC's focus to the Clinton-friendly states. They moved all the DNC's energies to guaranteeing his re-election as opposed to winning the House and Senate. They put their acolyte McAuliffe in charge after he left the White House.
The country was better off when Clinton left office. The DNC was in shambles because it only existed to prop him up by the end.
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:33 PM
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2. exactly! I always wonder about this when they complain nt |
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:34 PM
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3. The Fl and Mi chaos is CONCOCTED controversy in hopes it would bring down Dean |
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who is supposed to be targeted for all blame.
Terry McAuliffe put up the rule in 2002 and STATE PARTIES voted in 2006 to keep the rule. But Clintons wanted Dean pushed out because they expected her nomination and wished for one of her loyalists to be in the chair seat at the DNC.
Too many of us are now aware of what Clintons will do to maintain their grip on the party, and we aren't going to let Dean and Obama get railroaded for representing ALL Democrats and not just the Clintons.
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Gore1FL
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Thu Mar-06-08 03:09 PM
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7. Dean's term ends pretty soon |
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I think they are fighting the 50 state strategy. I really don't know why. The DLC strategy is a proven long-term failure.
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Thu Mar-06-08 04:28 PM
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8. They didn't want Dean in place for Hillary's general campaign and would push him out if she won - |
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they miscalculated.
They had tried pushing him out after Nov 2006 and would've used the DNC as oart of their own campaign in 2007 - they miscalculated the respect party people have for Dean so this push in Florida and Michigan was concocted to make Dean's rep take a hit. To an extent it worked, but now most Dems aren't buying what Clintons are selling and have their eyes open much wider than in the past.
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Thu Mar-06-08 06:25 PM
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I just hope that whoever comes next continues the 50 state strategy.
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:50 PM
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5. Bubba skipped Iowa and it was not up to him in 2000. Gore stiff-armed him. nt |
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Thu Mar-06-08 02:50 PM
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6. Bill Clinton took part in designing the Texas two-step, if that counts for anything |
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