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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:16 PM
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So, if Congress decides to hold a "practice election" in October...
...and tells everyone over and over again that the vote doesn't count, that it won't mean anything, that it might as well be on Monopoly money, that it won't decide who wins any position whatsoever - THEN, two weeks later, turns around and says, "Actually, forget November, I think we'll just use the October numbers to decide everything..."

You'd be completely fine with that, right?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:17 PM
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1. You seem to think DNC rules
carry the same weight as the constitution. How silly.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:19 PM
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3. If you can't follow the rules maybe it's time to change parties. Our DNC delegates from all 50
states set the rules.

Don't like 'em? Tough.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:22 PM
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5. Were you part of the republican mob in Florida in 2000?
They just wanted the rules followed! Want to finish counting your votes?! No way! Rules are rules! Want to recount the entire state? No can do! Rules are rules!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:01 PM
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10. You think our elected DNC are a mob of Repos? Like I said, it might be time for you to move on
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:02 PM by John Q. Citizen
That's about as bizarre of a statement as I've ever seen you make.

If you don't like the rules of our party you are welcome to go elsewhere.
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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:16 PM
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11. So, you would have been cool with Obama using that exact same argument...
...to campaign vigorously in Florida, yes? After all, following rules would just make him part of the Republican mob that put Bush into office, correct?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:18 PM
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14. well
he DID campaign in Florida, in violation of the pledge. But I didn't get too upset about it.
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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:22 PM
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4. What? I think you misunderstand me.
I'm not making any sort of claim about what rules should be enforced and what shouldn't. Too much legalese. I'm merely asking if you would be fine with the situation I described in the OP.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:23 PM
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6. Well
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 08:24 PM by MonkeyFunk
since the law sets the date of presidential elections, your scenario is stupid.
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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:32 PM
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7. *sigh*
I'm gonna guess that you're smart enough to know that you're purposely avoiding the point of my post. But, if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, you can replace "Congress decides" with "passes a Constitutional amendment."

Yes, yes, I know, the states have to then vote on it themselves. Concoct whatever crazy hypothetical scenario you wish in which every state legislature, on a crazy, Red Bull-induced caffeine rush, decides to pass the amendment the same night that it's passed by Congress. Do whatever your legalistic heart desires to make every all hunky-dory on the technicality side, so you can address, you know, the point of the thread.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:17 PM
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2. OP: Excellent analogy nt
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 08:17 PM by NoBushSpokenHere
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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 08:54 PM
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8. Gracias.
Apparently I should have made it more technically accurate, but, hell, I think it serves its purpose pretty well.
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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:29 PM
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9. Well, shit.
I'll give this thing at least one good bump to try to eek out a few more opinions about this scenario. No one sees the similarities?
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:25 PM
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12. It is a good analogy. Here are a few others...
1) With one or two games left in the regular season, the NFL suddenly decides that all pre-season games will now be counted as regular season games.

2) You get a bunch of friends together for a no-money poker tournament. You hand out chips at the door, and reiterate to everyone that the tournament is just for fun. As the tournament is ending, you suddenly announce that everyone is actually liable for their losses, and the winners will get the real money.
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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:37 PM
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13. Yup. The analogies could go on and on.
I chose this one because, as has been so clearly demonstrated in this thread, there are certain people who will nitpick at parts of the analogy that have absolutely nothing to do with the point, just to distract everyone from that point. If, however, you are not a massive tool, virtually any sports-related analogy would also work, because most sports have exhibition games of some sort.
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