MOMENTUM SHIFTS BACK TO OBAMA, AS FINAL CALIFORNIA COUNT GIVES HIM 6-8 MORE DELEGATES!

[Dems Will Win]

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/pres/dem/59.htm

What happened here is that more ballots were allowed, and Obama went over the 49% in 4 districts, giving him 4 more delegates, and taking 4 away from Hillary.

Calitics is reporting that Sen. Obama will be getting some unexpected delegates in CA due to the completion of the recount!

Edit: The California SoS seems to confirm the election results as of March 5th (which is after the March 4th Calitics article) and the math works out! So it looks legit!

Anyone know what the best way to get the AP to update their list is? I need to see this in print..


Today the results of the February 5 primary become official. The final spread in the popular vote between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is 8.9%. Clinton garnered 51.8% to Obama's 42.9%. The final delegates will be 203 for Clinton to 167 for Obama. This roughly averages out to the exact spread in the head-to-head popular vote (Hillary got 54.6% of the head-to-head vote and 54.8% of the delegates), so the convoluted delegate apportionment system worked in the case of California.

I'm also pleased to announce that 47,153 "double bubble" votes were counted in Los Angeles County. The expectation on the day of the election was that none of these ballots from decline to state voters would be counted, but the pressure put on by the Courage Campaign and other groups led to this result. And by the way, 51% of those votes went to Hillary Clinton and 42% to Barack Obama, so those who insisted upon viewing this through some partisan lens can respectfully shut the fuck up. This was about voter rights and remedying disenfranchisement; it always was, even though it had no material impact on the overall election.

203-167 is more delegates for Obama. Per Demconwatch's AP numbers, it's a net shift of +6 for Obama. Per CNN, +8.

That's about how much Clinton garnered from OH and TX. The delegate advantage, gone, just like that.

Sorry for the short diary...

Here's the DemConWatch delegate tracker page:

The Calitics post was on Tues., March 4th, and the SoS website sez their results are updated as of March 5th. So it looks like it's on the up and up!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/6/21155/40965/977/470905

It was Clinton 207, Obama 163 -- now it's Obama 167 and Clinton 203!

PLEASE RECOMMEND IF YOU ARE AMAZED THAT OBAMA JUST GOT 6-8 MORE DELEGATES FROM CALIFORNIA!

[book_worm]

1. Great news. Hillary keeps losing delegates left and right.

[Dems Will Win]

5. Didn't 3 supers go Obama today?

[book_worm]

9. That's what I've heard.

[Blondiegrrl]

42. I know he picked up Congressman Nick Rahall of W.Va.; not sure who else

[ButterflyBlood]

68. 2 DNC members, one from Illinois and one from South Carolina. nt

nt

[Mme. Defarge]

80. Separated at birth!

[Tat]

109. A fourth should be coming on Saturday.

Hastert's old seat is about to be won in a special election by a pretty nice guy... who I daresay will endorse Obama on account of Obama doing a good amount of work to make sure the Dems take the seat. Somehow I think going out of your way to make sure the Dems pick up another house seat should count like triple. Also Edwards primary win over Wynn is largely due to Obama's coattails.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnaGlxUUFv4

[Bigleaf]

Obama has picked up the following 14 Supers in the last 7 days.

Zero for Clinton.

according to Politico.com

March 6

New Endorsements for Obama:
West Virginia Rep. Nick Rahall
Neutral Nevada DNC Jill Derby has been replaced by Nevada DNC Teresa Benitez-Thompson, who is an Obama supporter.

March 5

New Endorsements For Obama
Ohio DNC Rhine Mclin
Georgia DNC Mary Long
Georgia DNC Jane Kidd
Texas DNC Roy Laverne Brooks
South Carolina DNC Carol Khare Fowler

March 3

New Obama Endorsement: 1
California DNC Member Steve Alari contacted Politico to say he announced his support on January 11

March. 2

New Obama Endorsement: 1
Wisconsin DNC Joe Wineke

Feb. 29

New Obama endorsements: 5
West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller
Minnesota DNC Brian Melendez
Minnesota DNC Donna Cassutt
North Dakota DNC Renee Pfenning
Texas DNC Yvonne Davis

http://www.politico.com/superdelegates/latestupdates.ht...

[thereismore]

98. Love it, just love it. How come Hil isn't getting any new supers? nt

[ginnyinWI]

43. this cartoon seems to fit in this thread

[bdamomma]

81. exactly the numbers don't lie.

:thumbsup:

[u2spirit]

2. If True

this is big. Tonight I am feeling it. Gobama!

[meow mix]

3. wow thank goodness they finally counted my vote.

:toast:

[1776Forever]

4. Great News!!!!!! Thanks so much for posting!

:applause: :woohoo: :applause:

[tekisui]

6. That is a significant number.

Not for Obama so much, but that is a big number for Clinton to lose. Almost what she got in her "big win".

So, since Tuesday, Obama has picked up 6-8 in CA, 9 Superdelegates, and the TX caucus. Momentum is back for Obama.

[Not the Only One]

12. the media determines that

They want a bloodbath for ratings. They will make sure Hillary is considered the insurgent, the comeback kid, the spunky underdog.

[Tarheel_Dem]

7. Seems the Clinton camp already wants to do away with caucuses,

now they'll want to do away with delegates, although the system seemed to work just fine in '92 & '96. FL & MI should count just as they stand, according to them. What next from Team Hillary? Tongue kissing John McCain on the WH steps? Excuse me, I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.....
:puke:

[Oilwellian]

25. ROFL

You made me bust out laughing...I don't know why but lizard tongues came to mind. :rofl:

This is FANTASTIC news! Thanks for posting.

[Tarheel_Dem]

39. I'm sorry I didn't mean to tickle your funny bone, but I can't get rid

of the lizard tongue image in my head now. :rofl:

[earthlover]

29. What's next? Hillary will try to do away with the convention?

[Tarheel_Dem]

40. wouldn't surprise me at all....n/t

[dbmk]

63. Which is funny

Given their, so far, love of the superdelegates - that are basically one man caucases.

[Abacus]

8. k/r /nt

[KittyWampus]

10. ahahahahaha

[FrenchieCat]

11. Hey....that must have been my vote!

:rofl:

[Medusa]

13. LOVE the graphic!

But I love the news even better.

[Dems Will Win]

20. I think Hil looks worried in the cartoon

[msallied]

61. How undemocratic! ;-)

[Georgie_92]

14. That's great news!

[AtomicKitten]

15. Wonderful. More good news.

[goclark]

22. Good news ~ really good news

Now watch, Queen Billary will declare that they immediately arrange to have the elections in Florida and Michigan as she deems appropriate.

Will this never end. In all my 40 plus years of voting I am so ashamed of these Rove type tactics ~ how much longer will we endure this trauma named Billary?

[AtomicKitten]

28. The NAFTA/Canada switcheroo was serious bottom-feeding.

IMO they should either split the delegates from Michigan and Florida to seat them, and she claims that's all she wants, or f*ck it. The GOP is salivating to have some fun in a Florida re-vote, and Florida is the epicenter for elections falling off the back of a truck.

Somebody needs to get a net because Hillary has gone full-tilt batshit crazy. She is aligning herself with the GOP in a number of ways. What she doesn't have is the charm of her husband to bullshit/bulldoze her way to the White House, and she is trying to take the Democratic Party down with her.

It is really quite breathtaking.

[Dems Will Win]

33. THEY HAVE TO BE CAUCUSES BY RULE

She can only net about 20 from FL and less from MI.

no biggie!

Obama still will be the nominee!

[Tat]

107. I don't want this crap to go on till June.

Can't we take the fact the math means he wins to call the race over?

Hopefully, the superdelegates do their job and put this race out of its misery.

[taught_me_patience]

16. These are the hard numbers that need to be seen

Recommended!

:kick:

[Laelth]

17. Good for California.

Democrats must always be in favor of counting all the votes.

:dem:

-Laelth

[Shae]

Well unless you're a Hillary supporter

and the count doesn't favor you.

[Colobo]

18. GOBAMAAAAAAA!!!

[DerekJ]

19. kr

:kick:

[apocalypsehow]

21. K & R.

n/t.

[stop the bleeding]

23. Anyone having trouble accessing the Calitic link on Kos article?

I am getting long load times and I just wonder how many political junkies are try to get on the page right now

http://calitics.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5248

[Dems Will Win]

27. That's why I didn't post it. THeir server must be melting down

THIS IS A HUGE MOMENT!

[stop the bleeding]

32. yeah I was finally able to get through - the CA SOS has not updated results link yet

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_elections.htm

Bradblog also has not posted anything but I am sure that will change shortly

http://www.bradblog.com/?page_id=5769

[ExFreeper4Obama]

24. This is just too funny

So much for her big win yesterday.

:rofl:

[tishaLA]

26. very exciting.

[DerekJ]

30. KR

[DerekJ]

31. K &R

[Cha]

34. This is Awesome! Delegates popping

up a month later from California! Thank you, Dems Will Win!

[Dems Will Win]

36. My take on this:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

(one for each delegate)

[Oilwellian]

37. Celestial choirs will be singing!!

:rofl:

[asp64064]

118. George, I need eyes on this! "Warrantless Wiretapping"

There is new info coming out of my cases on Bradley Schlozman (US Attorney Scandal In KC), Insure Missouri (Matt Blunt), Sprint officials participated in the unlawful control of local and state law enforcement officials by federal government administrative branch members in an unlawful enterprise through Operation Falcon and as telecommunications industry representatives in the FBI and Department of Homeland Security program InfraGard (Sprint, Mueller, NSA, Homeland Security) http://www.medicalsupplychain.com/news.htm Take Care! S~

[Growler]

35. woohoo!

[merkins]

38. K&R

[Aviation Pro]

41. ALL CAP HEADLINES CERTAINLY CAUSE EARTH AND HEAVEN TO MOVE....

...However, the cold, hard reality of fine print still shows that Senator Obama has yet to win a major state (outside of his home state of Illinois) during this election. Electable my ass.

[arundhatiroyfan]

44. kick

:kick:

[Diane R]

51. Obama hasn't won a major state? He got more delegates out of Texas, Virginia and Washington.

[Spider Jerusalem]

58. And won by a blowout in Georgia (ninth most populous state in the nation; Virginia is 12th)

Georgia's gone Republican since '96, but Obama has more of a chance of putting it in play than Clinton does thanks to the demographics (African American population + large student population in Atlanta and Athens + upper-middle income educated professionals in Atlanta).

[CitizenRob]

53. KICK

[bigbrother05]

115. And which party has carried those states in the last several elections?

Do you really think that Obama has said or done anything that would make CA, NY, NJ, etc vote GOP this time around. This is the primaries and looking at the turn out, the Dems still look strong. Just hope the party doesn't shoot itself in the foot.

[barack the house]

45. YESSSSSSSSSSS, EXCELLENT =) Game on.

[ORDem]

46. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

:kick: :woohoo: :hippie: :toast: :hi: :grouphug: :applause: :patriot: :beer: :smoke: :bounce:

[Mme. Defarge]

47. Mais c'est doux!

Sweet!

[hedgehog]

48. kick

[TheZug]

49. California must be sexist.

[psychopomp]

70. ZING!

:P

[lisainmilo]

50. K&R!

:)

[goclark]

52. K for more good news please

[List left]

54. Great News

Not if but when!

[grantcart]

55. very nice k/r

[grantcart]

56. Of course it goes without saying that this alone basically wipes out Hillary's

big Tuesday.

[LibertyorDeath]

57. I'd Piss Myself Laughing but this is my last clean pair of pants

Aaah WTF :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[AntiFascist]

59. This is great, more good news out of California! n/t

[frog92969]

60. Nice!

[ekwhite]

62. Yeah, they managed to count those 100,000 ballots

that got miscounted in LA. It's just a coincidence that mayor Villaragosa is a Clinton supporter.

[ClayZ]

64. Woooo Hoooo! K and R

[NM Independent]

65. ROFLMFAO & K&R

[RiverStone]

66. awesome!

:woohoo:

Thats great news to go to bed with.

[PADemD]

67. What are "double bubble" votes?

[jgraz]

69. Uh oh, Hillary. Time for another lawsuit

[Vinca]

71. An attorney could make a good living off Hillary.

:rofl:

[workinclasszero]

72. Great news! I wish the MSM would report it...

They are too busy crowing about Hillary's wins in Texas and Ohio "freezing" the supers that were going to Obama.:eyes:

[Scurrilous]

73. K & R

:thumbsup:

[greiner3]

74. I'm for Obama at this point;

Sorry Dennis :cry:

However, Hillary does have big balls; big hairy balls. I'm trying to remember the AC/DC lyrics now!

[nvme]

75. Talk is cheap

Buck up for Obama. Pass the hat guys send some cash or spend sometime at the Phone bank. Do what needs to be done. Show that no matter what, Obama will go in the front runner to this most likely brokered convention. Mississippi elections coming and biggie PA. We can get the already established momentum to steamroll Clinton in these next contests. Remember, If nothing else, 27 out of 41 states voted for Obama. The media needs to be shown we are strong in big states as well. YES WE CAN.

[Dems Will Win]

77. kick

[OhioChick]

76. K&R

:kick:

[Tarc]

78. Momentum shift from a half-dozen? Yea, you are getting higher by the day

[GarbagemanLB]

79. How is Hillary doing closing that delegate gap? Texas and Ohio sure helped!

[BearSquirrel2]

104. ^ Sarcasm ???

[kevin881]

82. ^bump to the top. Outstanding news.

[stillcool]

83. Thank You California!!

[mcollier]

85. Education is Fundamental

Do the Math.... Uh! If you can count... Most of Americans can, and we're sick and tired of having our intelligence insulted...

All Hillary supporters, I appreciate your attention to this matter... I ask you to join the Obama team to help take our country in an new direction, one of openness, honesty, integrity, hope, respect, wise judgment and prosperity... Together we can make the difference. We all have worked hard to get power back to the people. With Barack Obama, we have that opportunity...



Thanks All,

MC

[stillcool]

123. temper, temper, temper....

[writes3000]

84. Fantastic news. Cool stuff. n/t

[Gman]

86. 119 people are amazed that Obama just got 6-8 more CA delegates??

Poor pathetic creatures with no life.

[snappyturtle]

87. I have a life and am amazed whenever I see the system work. What's

even better is that these delegates arose from the ashes of votes that probably just as easily could have been ignored and not an artificial seating of delegates as Sen. Clinton has proposed for FL.

[redqueen]

92. What the hell is that supposed to mean?

:wtf:

[K Gardner]

88. Anyone heard ANYTHING about this new count in the media? I just now read it here

and was very surprised.

[JackORoses]

89. Wow! not a single Hillarite post. This thread is Kryptonite, baby!

[redqueen]

91. I'm not surprised...

after all the gloaty, "she's got the big mo!" posts over the past few days.

[BearSquirrel2]

105. She has dittoheads and freepers ...

This is where her "mo" is coming from.

[thereismore]

102. You mean it's Clintonite. The Clintopaths no like to count. nt

[redqueen]

90. He's got that mojo WORKIN!

:woohoo:

[debatepro]

93. Very nice -

So no net gain for clinton from march 4th.

[FogerRox]

94. SOS Debra Bowen is very meticulous.

[xxqqqzme]

95. I know many early & VBM voters

who voted for Edwards. After Edwards withdrew, 5 days before the primary, they were wishing they could have voted for Obama. I just think if the CA primary was still in June, Hillary wouldn't get her 'big win' out here.

[thereismore]

96. will M$M ever notice? Seems like all they care are controversies, not delegates. nt

[Dems Will Win]

100. Think NPR reported it this morning but no one else yet

[Dems Will Win]

101. Link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4948169

[thereismore]

97. The delegate advantage [from OH, RI], gone, just like that. I like it. nt

[Texas Hill Country]

99. that doesnt change "momentum" at all actually.... she still won the state.

[thereismore]

103. First Clintopathic post in this thread. You are brave I give you that.

:hi:

[BearSquirrel2]

106. No Obama won Texas ...

Obama walked away with the most delegates, he's the winner.

Apparently the dittoheads didn't want to stick around for the caucuses.

[Dems Will Win]

108. Incorrect, she won the primary, but TX is a HYBRID, primary and caucus together.

If you're going to say she won the state that would be the combination of both and so she lost TX.

Although she did win the primary.

[Tat]

110. Do you say they split? Obama won the Caucus more than she won the Primary...

Honestly, shouldn't the tie go to the delegates won?

It's just bragging rights but it seems like the focus on the primary in a state that holds a primacaucus is a little fishy.

[jgraz]

111. No, we're saying Obama won the most delegates in Texas. Try to keep up.

[rosetta627]

112. Good riddance Hillary

GO AWAY.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

113. kicked and recommended

and I posted a link at the Obama Daily News.

Thank you for the update!!!

I assume that Obama would have gotten more votes if it weren't for the
double bubble ballot screw up in Los Angelos County.

[catgirl]

114. Good going California!

Gobama!!

[NC_Nurse]

116. That is SO great!

Fired up!!! GObama!

[GoneOffShore]

117. Brilliant -

Maybe we won't end up with Pres McLame after all.

[dempartisan23]

119. awesome news

[Dems Will Win]

120. kick

[jackson_dem]

121. Only in 0bamanation is losing by 400,000+ votes momentum

[IndianaGreen]

122. We still have the pending issue of the NYC precincts that had zero votes for Obama

in heavily AF neighborhoods. Mayor Bloomberg called it fraud that Obama's votes weren't counted!

[davidlynch]

124. Why Is CNN Election Center Still Showing HRC 204 / O 161?

According to this, we should be seeing O 167, but CNN is acting like this didn't happen.

[Tarheel_Dem]

125. you mean the (C)linton (N)ews (N)etwork? take a guess........nt

[stop the bleeding]

126. MSM meet crickets, crickets meet MSM nt