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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:54 AM
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The ball is in your court now Hillary...
Wolfson?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:55 AM
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1. Yes, there is now a higher standard. . .
. . .don't be too surprised if some of the Clinton camp's off the record statements become public soon.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:57 AM
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2. Forget "off the record" statements. He called Obama "Ken Starr"! HE should resign. n/t
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:58 AM
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3. He should never resign
I want him to stay in and say ludicrous, demonstrably false bullshit forever, since it's doing her no favors whatsoever. I hope she keeps Mark Penn on too.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:11 PM
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7. Yeah, but...
it looks like his Rovian tactics are working. You'd think Dems. wouldn't fall for them but they are.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:45 PM
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26. I don't think they're working at all.
The results of Tuesday's elections were exactly what everyone said they would be all along. Obama would carry Vermont by a large margin, Clinton would carry Rhode Island by a large margin, and Obama would close the gaps in Texas and Ohio and keep it close. This is exactly what happened, an if the Texas victory goes to Obama because of the caucus, and even if it gets no media coverage whatsoever, that dampens Hillary's newfound "mo" considerably. Not that she got much to begin with.

Any "mo" that she might have picked up is already gone. We're in a new news cycle, and at best, it now looks like a statistical tie between her and Obama. That was the best she and her Rovian tactics could do. And needless to say, Obama still has the lead in delegates, number of states won, and popular vote. She didn't make a dent. And she's not going to.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:00 PM
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5. No he didn't
he talked about imitating Ken Starr's tactics.

That's not the same as calling someone a monster.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:09 PM
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6. Invoking Ken Starr's name re: Obama's "tactics" is worse in Dem. circles than calling someone a
monster.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:13 PM
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10. No it's not
and I don't see why you're so bugged. People HERE bring up Ken STarr issues against Clinton every day - I don't you see you objecting.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:15 PM
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12. Yes it is
and I'M not working for anyone's campaign. Can you show me a thread about Ken Starr here before yesterday? TIA.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:24 PM
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15. You seriously are claiming
not to have any seen any threads about Whitewater, Rose Law Firm records, Monica Lewinsky?

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:25 PM
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16. Yup. Can you show me a thread about Ken Starr issues? Thanks again.
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 12:26 PM by jenmito
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:26 PM
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17. I didn't say threads about Ken Starr
Try to read better.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:28 PM
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21. I edited it (BEFORE I saw your comment) to "Ken Starr ISSUES." TIA.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:32 PM
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23. You have a star
just do a search for "Lewinsky", "Rose Law" or "Whitewater".
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:33 PM
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24. Nah. I'm not going to waste my time searching to back up YOUR claim.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:44 PM
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25. OK
IF you think nobody's mentioned Whitewater, Rose Law Firm or Monica Lewinsky here, you're either ignorant or lying.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:47 PM
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27. Monsters don't exist.
Ken Starr does. So technically speaking, the Ken Starr comment was more off base. If HRC has her feelings hurt because someone compared her to Count Chocula, then she needs a thicker skin.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:58 AM
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4. Video here from inside the ClintonInc Camp -
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:12 PM
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9. Good one...
I wouldn't be surprised. :hi:
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:11 PM
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8. She will just continue to play the victim
I'm waiting on future skits from SNL. I wonder what she'll do if they turn the tables on her.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:14 PM
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11. I agree. I REALLY hope Obama talks to SNL, like he said,
he has to "have a word" with Tina Fey, saying he never met her (but seems to PLAN to). I really hope SNL won't continue favoring Hillary so much when she's playing so dirty.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:17 PM
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13. She's providing them with a lot of material
It's sad that she has to use a skit on SNL as an endorsement.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:24 PM
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14. Yes she is. But they keep portraying her in a positive light or as a victim
while portraying Obama as an empty suit.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:27 PM
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18. The phone rings at 3 AM and she whines...
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:27 PM
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19. Yes - Woflson needs to go! n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:27 PM
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20. republicans and hillary just cry for it. they never do it. n.t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:29 PM
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22. hillary supporters does not hold hillary to any ethical standards so she doesnt need to
stay true to her word. she has never given her word. her supporters like that, better for dirty politics.
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