Steve Soto: "I’ve had enough .... and I’m done with her"

[featherman]

Steve Soto of The Left Coaster Blog falls off the Clinton bandwagon. Soto threw his support to Clinton many months ago and has been one of the strongest progressive bloggers supporting her and her campaign. Apparently the McCain comments were the last straw:

"Lastly, it's time for me to step out of the sh*tstorm and take a shower to wash off the slime and disappointment. I’ve had enough of the Clinton fluffing of McCain, and I’m done with her. Frankly I’ve looked foolish trying to defend her and her campaign’s burn-the-house-down-to-get-the-nomination strategy, and I’m tired of seeing this message and these tactics. Politics at this level is not softball, but as I have said before, being an arsonist does not recommend one for the party’s nomination."

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/012095.php

[NightWatcher]

1. the intelligent progressive tide is turning

only the most hardcore of the Hillary Cultists will remain in her camp as she continues to act like a republican.

[malik flavors]

29. Well, they do say the more intelligent you are, the more likely you are to support Obama.

[Road Scholar]

53. My friend, you don't know just how true that is.

The Hillary Clinton campaigners are of high school intellect running on cheerleader level emotion.:shrug:

[DemBones DemBones]

76. . . .

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

"Oh, he's cute," "I like his vibe," "He's sexy" --- really intelligent reasons to vote for a president.

The same as "He's the kind of guy you'd like to have a beer with." Or snort some coke with.

If we had an IQ requirement for voting, Obama would have been out of the race long ago.

[krkaufman]

109. Absolutely! Just about any dumb jackass...

... gets the position of President of Harvard Law Review. And then there's his naivete in luckily guessing *exactly* the consequences of our invading Iraq.

What a lightweight!

:rofl:

[SwampG8r]

111. ok im outing myself

i have in the past favored consevatives over liberals on the basis of foriegn policy issues the left is soft on( my opinion only)but i have always looked for the inspirers
you remember
guys who can make YOU want to a better person and a better american
guys like jfk and his brother bobby (how we were robbed god bless you bobby rip )
guys like fdr and truman
guys like jefferson and lincoln
guys like king and even guys like reagan
they let you see a better place
and every time we glimpse that better place
we move closer to it
so never ever underestimate the power of inspiration on a nations path
when hillary denigrates the ability to inspire i have to wonder

[surfin]

112. Obama did not fail his bar exam like Hillary did - He is smart also

Smart people are figuring it out. They see that people who read and are not fooled quickly or want a queen reject Hillary.

[nlb]

93. sure

you gotta be not very intelligent to get fooled by Hillary's tactics.

[zonmoy]

120. and the smartest of the lot have long since figured out

that both candidates are really right wingers masquerading as democrats.

[SoFlaJet]

2. and so it begins

finally one true democrat realizes that it's not the Clintoncrat party it's about us all-not just her and her ambition-good for you Steve

[LeftCoast]

3. I think a number of us are making this decision right now

I believe this is going to wrap up more quickly than people realize. I hope anyway.

[SoFlaJet]

4. were you a Clinton supporter LC?

and have you switched to Obama?

[LeftCoast]

7. Yeah, just posted about my switch

Here's the link if you're interested:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4942935

[femmedem]

39. I've been leaning Obama for a while

but just today I retired my Lamont avatar for Obama. For a while I didn't want the Obama avatar because the atmosphere here is so polarized, and I didn't want to add to it. But today I decided it isn't polarizing anymore because it is time to rally around our candidate.

[Hawkeye-X]

51. I held out for as long as I did (Rockies avatar), untiI I saw an avatar that described

EXACTLY who I am - a Deaniac for Obama. So I decided to switch to it on my birthday (3/5)

Hawkeye-X

[Carolina]

94. Happy Birthday!

[goclark]

55. We. Are. Glad.You.CHANGED

:bounce:

[JanusAscending]

61. Well done fellow Connecticutite !!

Welcome to the bright side.:hi: from the Hills of Litchfield County in Thomaston !!

[goclark]

54. Welcome

It makes me feel good to know that there are some people that are seeing this situation with new eyes.

[Hepburn]

80. Excellent post on your switch....

...thank you for posting the original OP and for the link on this thread! :hi:

[Adelante]

5. Is that you?

That blog did terrific work for Clinton for a long time.

[LeftCoast]

10. No, he and I are different people

I wish I could write even half as good as he can!

[Pirate Smile]

6. Who else?

[LeftCoast]

11. Myself for one

I've also seen a couple of other people make the switch today.

[Pirate Smile]

15. Why do you think it will wrap up quickly? Do you think the suppers are going to start moving?

God, I hope so. This is terrible right now.

[LeftCoast]

22. Yeah, I do

Most seem to acknowledge that it's virtually impossible for Clinton to come out ahead in terms of pledged delegates and popular vote. The SDs are not going to overturn that. They're also going to want to end what seems to be a pointless pie-fight. There is huge pressure behind the scenes to move on.

[DUyellow]

35. I think they are watching this and they do not like it... They will be moving fast to one candidate

[Cha]

46. I don't see anyone could like

this degradation within the Democratic Party except the clintonistas.

[K Gardner]

43. Glad to have you, LC :-)

[terrya]

47. Yes.

While she's not a "monster", I think there are some people who are looking toward November and what's best for the Democratic Party...and changing their allegiances to Obama. And I'm one of them.

[Rebel101]

108. Not Me!

I am still for Hillary. No matter what slime is posted against her, I will not change my vote. What does BO bring to the table. Well let's see, he walks away from reporters' questioning after answering eight questions (Bush lite). He does give nice speeches, but nothing with any substance in his speeches. His Foreign policy adviser is calling her a "Monster" (true she had to resign), but she also said that BO's "Iraq withdrawal plan was a best case scenario rather than a firm commitment." So in other words, he knows he can't withdraw the troops as soon as we would wish. It seems to me, I remember him stating early in his campaign that on day one of his presidency, he would start withdrawing troops, but he has since changed his rhetoric. Is he a "Flip Flopper"? He first denied that his economic policy adviser Goolsbee held a meeting with officials from the Canadian government and then "Oops" there was a memo that proved Mr. Goolsbee did meet with them. If Mr. B does not know what his own handlers are saying and doing, how can we trust that he will be on top of everything if he wins the WH?

I'm not going to take that chance.

Vote Hillary!

[lligrd]

8. Every Smart Progressive Is In The Obama Camp

We've had enough slime the last 7 years.

[Name removed]

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[lligrd]

19. You Must Be A Member Of The Gutter Brigade

Carry on.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

28. Funny how you can always pick them out.

:rofl:

[krkaufman]

110. It doesn't take much "picking" when full frontal assaults are their norm. n/t

[Renew Deal]

25. Truth hurts huh?

It's in the polling too.

[lligrd]

34. Yikes, Tomb-stoned

I almost feel bad. lol

[NYCGirl]

9. Well, she'll always have Taylor Marsh. NT

[burythehatchet]

12. yuck! What a slimebag! n/t

[City Lights]

24. OMFG! I *love* your dream ticket!

:bounce:

[Window]

13. Damn. Hilly the Hypocrite is having problems with her 'Camp Pain,'

SD's defecting and bloggers. What's next???

[doublethink]

16. ......

:kick:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

17. HRC is bashing Obama, pushing McLame - thinking of a 2012 run

She knows she can't win, but she fears Obama will be a two term president.
She will be 70+ then.

So now she's campaigning for 2012

[BringBigDogBack]

33. Her tactics are fucking repulsive.

I would NEVER vote for her after these past few weeks. Never.

[Diane R]

48. That needs to get out in the mainstream....it's exactly what she's doing; she needs to be called on

[krkaufman]

113. Not just that (her age), but that the DLC may be on the ropes

If Obama were to run and win, largely modeling Dean's ground-up organizing and the 50 State Strategy, the DLC approach will have been proven to be a loser. (If it wasn't already obvious.)

[seabeyond]

18. another democrat dissing hillary's dirty politics? and this board is gleeful over it

and refuses to listen to all the democrats pointing it out.

ya... that is the time of pres i want, .... all about her and listens to no one

[americanstranger]

20. Soto is one of the good ones.

And Left Coaster is a decidedly pro-Clinton blog.

I give him props for being able to man up and admit that what she's doing sucks.

We'll probably see more of this as Hillary's tactics escalate.

- as

[Why Syzygy]

21. heehaw! He said arsonist. Right on. nt

[underpants]

23. I do hate to say this but in the soundbite world of MSM "Monster" could be the end for her

We'll see if it lasts through the weekend (my advise to Team Hillary is to let it go, let it die off) but if it does she is done.

A lot of this has not been fair-the rightwing "prepped the battle field" on her for years mainly as an attack on her husband and on feminism but also because they knew she was going to run.

The "Monster" line is something that sticks. It cements the established perception of her.

A shame, she has an incredible history but that might have been the accidental (off record) end of her national run.

We'll see.

[Upton]

26. She's a monster

see it stuck

[writes3000]

30. Strangely, I just got the exact same bolt of clarity.

"Monster". "Willing to do anything to win."

I don't think Hillary wants people repeating those words over and over again.

It hits at the heart of why people have been uncertain about her.

[K Gardner]

44. Good point.

[goclark]

58. Good point

[eridani]

62. The term was absolutely uncalled for and slimy

However, I do agree with the OP.

[Georgie_92]

27. I'm sure he isn't the only one that's done with her.

[catbyte]

32. I'm so done with her, too

I'm a 52 year-old Ojibwa/French/Irish woman, who should be a Hillary supporter. I am not. I've had my doubts about her, but her and her staff's behavior the past few days is sickening. She is running a despicable campaign and will stop at nothing to steal the nomination. I wasn't that hot on Obama--I was a Gore supporter, but when that hope went south, I started looking elsewhere.

No one has ever explained to my satisfaction just what this "vast experience" is that she touts. As far as I can tell, she's only been an elected official since 2002, and an unimpressive one at that. Her Iraq vote was a naked political calculation--she wanted to look tough, but it backfired. Her lame excuse that she was "duped" is laughable. I knew it was bullshit, why didn't she?? Is her being the First Lady her extraordinary experience? What makes her ready on "Day One"? What a load. The only substantial thing she undertook--healthcare reform--was an arrogant, unmitigated disaster. Did she have high-level security clearance? How many decisions did she make? It's ludicrous. Her judgment is questionable, right from her campaign staff to the way it was run. She expected a coronation and got a race. She has no ideas, so she's turning into a Republican before our eyes by going negative. You only go negative when you have nothing of substance to offer.

Her shifty "Obama probably isn't a Muslim" schtick is disgusting and racist, and her playing the gender card doesn't wash with me. I thought it would make a difference to have a woman in power, but Nancy Pelosi cured me of that fantasy. That Vichy Democrat proved to me that you don't have to have a dick to be a dick. What a betrayal.

Now Clinton is indicating that McCain would be a better president than Obama. She compares Obama to Kenneth Starr? Will she stop at nothing? That tells me that she loves herself more than this nation, and that is inexcusable. I generally supported Clinton's presidency, but he is forever tainted with me by pardoning that sleazebag Marc Rich, while he let Leonard Peltier rot in jail. He chose cronyism and money over principle, and I'm damned sick of it. Hillary has the potential for much worse. I also can't forgive her vote for cluster bombs and Kyl-Lieberman. I never thought I'd say or do this, but if Hillary steals this nomination, I'm staying home in November. She's not interested in fighting for anyone but herself, and I refuse to be a party to it.

Diane :banghead: :cry:

"Tales of the hunt will glorify the hunter until lions have their own historians."--Author Unknown

[JNelson6563]

38. Welcome Diane!

Good post. Welcome to DU. :hi: :toast:

Julie

[jsmirman]

41. Now THAT is a great post

and look!!!! Shockingly, you actually include some content in making your overall point.

Amazing, that it's starting to feel like that's too much to ask for, in general.

[misanthrope]

50. You got one thing wrong: She's not "turning" into a Republican...

...she's "reverting" to a Republican. Remember, she started out that way until it became overridingly "cool" to be a Democrat.

[goclark]

56. This should be a post ~ welcome and brilliant

:wave:

[Lochloosa]

63. "Tales of the hunt will glorify the hunter until lions have their own historians."--Author Unknown

Welcome to DU and what a great sig line.
:toast:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

73. And then a counter-counter historical spin when kudu and oryx get their say.

[liberalhistorian]

89. That was my thought too .

The last I knew lions WERE hunters.

[ekwhite]

75. What a great picture Lochloosa

I miss Elizabeth on the campaign trail. :cry:

[Lochloosa]

122. So do I. I hope that is not the reason John had to pull out.

[krkaufman]

117. Agreed.

Reminds me of Howard Zinn.

[dansolo]

70. Being "duped" is even worse than being calculating.

How can she be "ready on day one" if she is so easily duped? By Bush of all people? If she admitted it was calculated because of the political environment at the time, she would at least gain a little respect for that. It may show that she doesn't have a spine, but isn't that better than showing that she doesn't have a brain?

[Harry Monroe]

71. Welcome catbyte!!!

I am also considering sitting it out in November. I know we're supposed to be loyal Democrats, but simply having a (D) after your name on the ballot, does not a Democrat make. I am beginning to see no discernable reason to vote for her and hardly any difference between her and McCain. I am sick and tired of voting for the "lesser of the two evils" instead of having a stark choice. I am looking for change after 8 years of the most appalling, incompetent, and ruinous Administration this country has ever seen. I have tried to keep saying to myself "vote for the Democrat, it makes a difference", but after the appalling and disgusting campaign Hillary has been running, I really see no difference between her and McCain. She is a Democrat in name only and is NOT the change I am looking for. It'll be more of the same if she is in office. Only Obama offers a stark change from the same tiresome and destructive politics of this past Administration.

I don't think I'll "play" this November if Hillary is the nominee. If she is I may as well vote for McCain (which I won't, so I'll just sit out). I'm just sick of her and her self-centered, egotistical campaign, willing to destroy the Democratic Party in order to win what she thinks is rightfully hers. She has no morals or scruples whatsoever.

[ekwhite]

72. Welcome Diane!

:hi: Don't worry, you won't have to stay home. It's only a matter of time until a group of party insiders have a "come to Jesus" meeting with her. She will have to drop out or destroy her and her husband's legacy and her Senate career.

[Hepburn]

81. ....

....Wow...GREAT post! :applause:

Welcome to the DU! :hi:

[Duncan]

86. Great post. NT.

[Carolina]

95. welcome to DU

Your post is spot on. I totally degree!:hi::hi::hi::hi::hi:

[cameozalaznick]

104. Vichy Democrat!

Priceless. I had never heard that term before. It's perfect though.

[krkaufman]

116. Wow. Great post, summarizing so much.

Note: She's been a Senator since 2000, having been elected the same cycle as Bush -- adding 2 more years to her record of not standing-up to Bush.

[Zoo Station]

121. Very articulate!

Exactly! Anyone calculating enough to allow knucklehead to invade Irag to cover herself for a future run at the white house does not stand on principal but politics only.Does anyone honestly think she was duped?

[txaslftist]

31. I just got this from newsmax. Sort of says it all.

Obama, Hillary in Civil War

Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:39 PM

By: Newsmax Analysis...

With Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's decision to stay in the Democratic race to the bitter end, she has signaled a delegate fight all the way to the party's convention in Denver this August.

...

Political strategists have concluded that Clinton cannot overcome Sen. Barack Obama's pledged delegate lead by winning additional primaries.


And despite his lead in electoral and delegate wins, Obama cannot seal his nomination without the support of the party's superdelegates.

...

Already the intraparty battle - described by the Boston Globe as "trench warfare" - has cost the Democrats a whopping $275 million. The war has no end in sight and is shaping up to be a take-no-prisoner's battle.

...
Meanwhile, the fraternal struggle among Democrats may be netting Republicans support.

Former Bush strategist Karl Rove notes Thursday in The Wall Street Journal "the interesting electoral phenomenon is the emergence of the 'McCainicrats' -- Democrats backing Mr. McCain."

Rove continued: "In three recent polls, (Fox, LA Times/Bloomberg and Gallup), almost twice as many Democrats support Mr. McCain as Republicans support Mr. Obama. Three times as many Democrats support Mr. McCain as Republicans back Mrs. Clinton."

(poster comment) It seems that an "arsonist" willing to burn down the house rather than let anyone else win is about right. She may be positioning herself for a run against McCain in 2012. Does she seriously think she'll be a contender in 2012 if she continues to divide the Democratic party like this? Ach. She's hopelessly deluded.

[David Zephyr]

36. Steve Soto joins me and millions others who have taken that shower.

I am a reformed Clintonista. I'm liberated. It feels great.

And I see I am not alone and that our ranks swell by the day.

Anyone thinking of wanting to abandon that rotting ship, I welcome you with open arms.

[goclark]

57. Glad to have you with

the Yes. We.Can. Support Group

[casus belli]

37. Ouch. He just sort of let it all out there.

Good for him. Let the healing begin.

[hogwyld]

40. K & R!!! n/t

[Cha]

42. Oh sweetie, you're not alone..

"Lastly, it's time for me to step out of the sh*tstorm and take a shower to wash off the slime and disappointment. I’ve had enough of the Clinton fluffing of McCain, and I’m done with her. Frankly I’ve looked foolish trying to defend her and her campaign’s burn-the-house-down-to-get-the-nomination strategy, and I’m tired of seeing this message and these tactics. Politics at this level is not softball, but as I have said before, being an arsonist does not recommend one for the party’s nomination."

There's an interesting take on Samantha Power, too..

"Thoughts on Samantha Power

by Turkana
It was reported yesterday that Obama foreign policy adviser Samantha Power had called Hillary Clinton a monster. This was deplorable and inexcusable. Even so, I didn't believe she should be fired. Last night, the Obama campaign decried the comment, and Power apologized. Today, Power resigned form the campaign, effective immediately.

The reason I didn't want Power to resign is that I think she is too important to lose. I had hoped an apology would suffice. In retrospect, a resignation may have been necessary, in the context of a campaign. But I hope Obama will continue to consult with her, and should he win, I hope she will be part of his administration. Samantha Power is no political hack. Samantha Power is a Pulitzer Prize winning scholar on genocide.

As anyone who has followed my posts here knows, Kenya was just on the brink of genocide, and barely averted it. The Bush Administration has called Darfur genocide, but done nothing about it, for which Bush feels no remorse. This country needs people like Samantha Power inside the halls of government. Despite this stupid mistake, she is a fine person, and can be an important asset to the entire world."

We all make mistakes..some of us admit them and we can learn from them and go on. Others will never admit them and it stunts their growth.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/012096.php

[goclark]

60. Excellent thanks

[johallmark]

96. ZidZi

If you see where Samntha Powers was very critical of Bill
Clinton and his complete dissing of Rawanda and the genocide
there in her Pulizer winning book, then it makes perfect sense
that the Hill/Bill machine had her in the cross hairs and was
just waiting to pounce.  Maybe if the media pointed this out
instead of being stenographers for Hillary, then the truth
would out !!

Hillary is a lot more than a Monster, she is a liar and a
fraud !!  Monster is one of the nicer things I would call her.

Samatha Powers should be exalted to sainthood !!!  She called
correctly !!

[Scurrilous]

45. K & R

:thumbsup:

[jgraz]

49. Hillary Clinton: Republican Fluffer.

I love it. :rofl:

[IsItJustMe]

52. People all over America are waking up now. This is going to be very interesting to see the tidal

wave that is coming HRC's way.

[goclark]

59. What a happy day that will be !

I can't wait until I see the Content of the Character of America.

[Lance31]

64. Hey, Mccain has 100s of years of experience.

I mean look at him. Its obivous he's been around since the 18th century.

[GalleryGod]

65. Mr. Soto: Read about "The Big Girl",here!

"Everything will finally fall into place....like tumblers clicking!"

[ekwhite]

77. Be fair - that guy specializes in hit jobs on Democrats

But still I think we are finding out precisely how far she will go to become President. If I were Obama, I would wear a bullet-proof vest at all times.

[BrainDrain]

66. slash, burn, nuke

HRC is going to rip the Dems apart with her selfishness...if she thinks that if she loses the nomination now in the hopes that Obama will lose to McCain so she can run in 2012..she is nuts.

FIGHT for HOPE!

[ingac70]

67. K&R.

[mcollier]

68. I Feel The Same Way Feather..

Trying to make Hillary's case of being ready on day one, with not a single reference to experience she so claims to have, sounds like babaling.

These guys would get totally destroyed by their own miscalculations... Because there is a lot of garbage coming out of the Clinton campaign...
The American People have seen enough garbage... We're in desparate need of something new... Something good... Something we'd feel good about bringing into our home...
We normally throw the garbage out and leave it by the side of the road...

If the Clintons think they can win by bringing this filthy garbage into our homes, they are seriously mistaken...

[GodlessBiker]

69. Clinton fluffing McCain. So rich.

[eilen]

115. Can't. Get. Rid. Of. The. Visual..... Make it stop!

[rosetta627]

74. She lost a lot of people by recommending a Rethug over a Dem

The last straw.

[ekwhite]

78. She certainly did

Olbermann went off on her on Thursday. I've only seen him that angry once before - against Bush.

[mcollier]

79. Yes

And it's not just 'Obama supporters' who are angry. There are tons of people now coming out publically against her tactics who have not spoken out
before and many who are withdrawing their support because of it.

"Lastly, it's time for me to step out of the sh*tstorm and take a shower to wash off the slime and disappointment. I’ve had enough of the Clinton fluffing of McCain, and I’m done with her. Frankly I’ve looked foolish trying to defend her and her campaign’s burn-the-house-down-to-get-the-nomination strategy, and I’m tired of seeing this message and these tactics. Politics at this level is not softball, but as I have said before, being an arsonist does not recommend one for the party’s nomination."

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/012095.php

[Sonnenschein]

82. Where is his outrage, when Obama implies Reagan is a better

president than Clinton.

[Barack_America]

85. Again, "more influential" does not mean "better".

And "great" does not necessarily mean "good".

I'll leave it to you to look it up.

[Sonnenschein]

88. Obama said Reagan is more a transformational president when he know that he isn't.

[Barack_America]

90. Actually, he was.

More "transformational" means more influential. It does not mean that the transformation was good. But, yes, Reagan had a more profound and lasting influence on this country...just a bad one.

[Carolina]

97. eactly, a lasting effect and coalition

When Reagan lost the nomination to Ford in 1976, the GOP was in a tizzy saying the party had selected the wrong man. That helped Carter. Reagan came back (yes with some chicanery) and won in a LANDSIDE in 1980 and truly effected a lasting coalition and impact.

The same cannot be said of Bill Clinton. That was Obama's point, but Team Hillary is willfully blind.

[Barack_America]

101. Thanks for the historical perspective.

That was a little before my time...literally. lol. ;)

[Carolina]

123. you're welcome

I'm telling my age but I remember that time well along with 1960 (JFK's inspiring words), 1964 and 1968 (what a year).

As a lifelong Dem and a female (obviously older and thereby in HRC's demographic), nothing pisses me off more than Team Hillary's distortions and projections... not to mention the 'monster' girl herself!

[Sonnenschein]

98. That's clealy not what Obama meant. He meant it in a positive way.

[Barack_America]

100. Okay. I guess those "Hillary" blinders are pretty effective.

I suggest you go back and read the full quote. Googling "Obama Reagan" should bring it up.

[Sonnenschein]

102. I did read the whole thing. I suggest you read it again.

[Barack_America]

103. Interpret it as you will.

I will interpret it as I do, which is also how Obama has stated he intended it.

"I didn't say they were good ideas"

[Sonnenschein]

119. Isn't that the Washington double-speak Obama decries.

[cameozalaznick]

105. What are you?

Psychic?

[Yael]

118. How do you explain this?

The 1984 election map:

[johallmark]

83. All Media

It's great that you have changed to Obama.  While I have never
been a Hillary fan even when she was first lady, she really
made my blood boil over the McCain "endorsement" and
should be made to exit the race as a Democrat.  Maybe she
could go be McCain's V.P. running mate.  Obama's supporters
will not have her as a VP choice, so her coy assumptions
should be squashed, also.

But I have a question that has been kicking around in my brain
for a while and not being an expert blogger, would like to run
it by everyone who is:

Why can't we all get together and hold the newsgroups, MSNBC,
CNN, Fox and all the newspapers accountable?  When something
is played over and over, 24/7 and is propograndized for
Hillary,

Why not get the millions of us to sign a petition and send to
each show.  The corporate structure would certainly pay
attention.  I know that each one of these people who head up
these shows would if they thought their ratings were going
down the toliet.  I write my protest to these shows, but one
lonely voice never gets anything done.

I get emails every day asking me to sign a petition for one
thing or another. If it is a good cause and I agree with it, I
add my name.  I just don't know how to do one that I'm talking
about.  You people who are great at this could figure it out.

This started for me when I read a blog somewhere about Ned
Pickler getting 15,000 emails for a peice he wrote that was
not considered fair, so this is not entirely my idea.

Another thought hit me in that we are all doing our part
online to help Obama, but how many of those under $50,000
earners that Hillary touts, have the means or the time to read
blogs?  I am one of those(way under $50K ) but I am retired
and while I have a great business background and can work my
way around the internet, there are millions that can't and
don't.

Thanks for listening and welcome to Obamaland. We aren't all
Kool-Aid drinkers but are hoping this can be a better country
if we with him make our voices heard.

[saltpoint]

84. I'm in with the blue ticket but feel that Soto, Herbert, Hart, and many others

are exactly right on the conduct of the Clinton campaign staff.

If she likes McCain all that much over a fellow Democrat, she should challenge him for the GOP nomination. She'd likely whip the old fool in a landslide for their nom.

[meow mix]

87. "fluffing of McCain"

:spray:

[Barack_America]

92. Yeah, I caught that too...

Do you think that was a *wink wink* reference to "fluffing" in the, er, porn sense?

If so..... :rofl:

[leftofthedial]

91. the McCain "endorsement" was reprehensible

and should not be tolerated by ANY Democrat.

So, the question hangs . . . who ARE the Clinton supporters really?

[Medusa]

106. So was the shit that went down in SC

that's where they lost me. I was leaning HRC up to then but no fucking more.

[Richard D]

99. No comment needed

[Mme. Defarge]

107. Hillary is

the elephant in the Democratic livingroom.

[ACanadianLiberal]

114. Any Obama folks here got furious over Obama when he said

"I don't want to go into the next election starting off with half the country already not wanting to vote for Democrats -- we've done that in 2004, 2000"

-- Obama, speech this afternoon in central Iowa, on December 31, 2007

Yes or no?

No, I guess, that is damaging to Democratic Party. Can we say that without him, D has lost the 2008 presidential election? Because R has already won over half of the country. That line to me is quite evil, nothing better than Mr. Clinton's MaCain line.