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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:13 PM
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The PRESS v. Hillary Clinton: Part. 1 The Media Fatwa Begins
I wrote my journal The Press v. John Edwards after his campaign had been trashed by the corporate media. This time, I decided not to wait.

What I found when I began to accumulate data was so shocking---through 8 hours of internet research I was able to amass 40 pages of condensed hard core Hillary bashing, most of it consisting of lies and malicious innuendo and that was without the Chris Tweety Matthews links since they have already been well documented here

http://mediamatters.org/items/200801110014

I strongly advise everyone to read this excellent document, because Matthews leads the pack in their attack on Hillary. He emboldens the others. They see him getting praise from his own network---and a token wrist slap followed by the solidarity of his co-workers who have begun to attack Hillary even more in the wake of his forced apology---and they join in like a bunch of school yard bullies.

Media Matters is an invaluable resource. While it does not contain all the propaganda--which a skillful propaganda artist can weave from bad photos, unflattering sound bites and slanted versions of the truth ---it does contain many of the lies and distortions which have been used in the major media skirmishes against Hillary.

I. The Press on the Fatwa

(Dana Milbank) went on to characterize Clinton's relationship with the press as "poisonous" and "venomous," and said that journalists "dislike" her. (1)


( Craig Crawford ) "I think there's a tendency here -- I know what's going on. It's all about an old journalistic rule, which is we afflict the comfortable. And so I think that's why many times, many of us in the media tend to gang up on the Clintons. Because they're very comfortable, they're very powerful, and I think sometimes we're actually a little unfair to them, but maybe that's just how it goes." (2)


(In an La Times interview Chris Matthews) said he wanted to refine his comment but added that the Clinton campaign used the incident to score political points.

"They created the storm; I had to deal with it," he said. "I think any observant person would say what I said was true. It might have been said better, more felicitously." (3)


“Part of it is her campaign’s fault,” Andrea Mitchell, the longtime NBC political correspondent, said backstage at the MSNBC debate in Cleveland in Tuesday. “They started with this notion of inevitability. And they were very arrogant.” (4)


( From Taylor Marsh )Walter H. Shorenstein has put out a memo on the media bias against Clinton (that I've seen and read), which is damning in its conclusive finality. But nothing registered more intensely with me than this one fact revealed within Shorenstein's memo:

Foreign Policy Bias Against Clinton
When it comes to foreign policy coverage--perhaps the most important issue in the coming general election--the media monitoring group, Media Tenor, found that there was not a single positive story about Hillary Clinton and foreign policy in the month of February.

Snip
But in the end, covering the candidates is about giving all sides to the story, including on foreign policy matters. When the guys get covered, with McCain out pacing Obama in coverage, but the one woman in the race does not get covered at all, the deck is clearly stacked in the men's favor. If you don't want to call it sexism, fine, but the facts are still the facts.

(1) http://mediamatters.org/items/200712310001
(2) http://mediamatters.org/items/200801200003
(3) http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-msnbc26feb26,1,4761432.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
(4) http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/1/10026/83367
(5) http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27141

II. “Hillary is a Bitch” and “Obama is a Scary Black Muslim”

Way before the rude blonde at the McCain meeting said it---and the corporate media played it over and over again on national television---they were laying the groundwork for this particular Big Lie. Indeed, as far back as January 2007,while John Solomon of the WaPo was penning stories about John Edwards’ house and hair for the Edwards is a phony Big Lie, the RNC under the direction of Karl Rove was already working on its other two Big Lies for the 2008 election season--- Hillary is a Bitch and Obama is a Scary Black Muslim . Ironically, the press introduced both stories at the exact same time. Here is how:

In December 2006, Republicans with crystal balls were already tarring Hillary as the B word by pretending to offer Obama advice. Media Matters documents that Republican strategist Mike Murphy said on Hardball in December 2006:

“MURPHY: Oh, I think a lot of the love is going to be about Obama. He is now standing between Hillary and the nomination. So if I were Obama, I'd get a food tester in, quick.”


12-17-2008 on CNN’s Reliable Sources conservative San Francisco Chronicle Columnist Debra Saunders (who said Hillary would be a “shameless victim in chief” in 2-28-2008 column)

SAUNDERS: I think the other thing that people are waiting for is they're wondering what kind of mud the Clinton machine is going to churn out on Barack Obama, and they're waiting to see -- for the mud fight. That's what I'm waiting to watch.”


And on New Year’s Day, on The Situation Room, the last of prescient conservatives predicted:

Bay Buchanan: “That first he goes in his closet, find out everything that's there, what he's done, thought about saying, said in the last -- since he's been 10 -- and reviews it, because the Clinton machine has got him in their targets and they love to work the personal, and so, he best be ready to respond to anything and keep smiling because it's that smile they want to take off his face.”


Well, surprise, surprise, surprise. Guess what happened a few days later?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200701040011
When a story from Obama’s memoir about adolescent drug experimentation hits the news (the Washington Post culled a story from Obama’s decade old memoir), Fox News blames Hillary, citing as proof that every one knows she is the kind of person who does things like that. Even though everyone only knows she does things like that because a bunch of right wingers like them have just spent the last two weeks telling America so!

This is just a taste of what is to come. The Big Lie about Obama, the one that is supposed to torpedo his candidacy in the general election against Rudi Guiliani in the fall of 2008 (this is winter 2006-7, remember) is Obama is a Scary Black Muslim. The GOP does not dare release this story themselves, so they release it anonymously on a Moonie owned publication, use Fox and right wing radio to propel it, all the while accusing Hillary of being the source without any evidence . As if Hillary would slime Obama in the Democratic primaries with an issue that no Democrat would care about, like his religious upbringing and take the slime to a Moonie owned rag.

Media Matters does a great job of covering the media skirmish.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200701200003
From the January 19 edition of KSFO's Morning Show:
MORGAN: Well, it is big time finally watching what's going on as Hillary begins the character assassination of "Osama Obama."


Eventually all the mainstream TV news networks like CNN, MSNBC, ABC cover the story, at first implying that it came from the Hillary camp and asking if it is true---promoting both Big Lies. Eventually, the corporate media draws back and admits that both Lies are probably false, although one notorious peddler of Big Lies will not let it rest.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200701300007
The discussion of the smear continued on the January 28 broadcast of Inside Washington -- a weekly news program on ABC's Washington, D.C., affiliate, WJLA-TV -- when syndicated columnist Mark Shields said: "Now we have these smear tactics being used against Barack Obama by Fox News, by Steve Doocy and John Gibson, just running with this story, which is a total fabrication, totally unfair, and this is early in the ballgame. And then, they try to pin it on Clinton. I've got to tell you, this is beyond the pale. Have they no decency left at last in our business?" Moments later, in response, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer suggested that the story still had legs and that despite all the debunking, there were still unanswered questions. Krauthammer said: "I don't know where the story came from, whether it was a Clinton leak or not. But there is a question about what was his childhood like, which is quite interesting. He was in Indonesia. Let's hear about it."


Charles Krauthammer is a veteran of “Gore is a liar” and “Edwards is a phony”. He also made phony psychiatric diagnoses of Al Gore back in 2000.

III. The Many Shades of Bitchiness

You may think that McCain’s supporter was the first person to call Hillary the B word on TV, but you would be wrong.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200703070009

March, 2007, Imus’s sidekick said “ Bitch is gonna be wearing cornrows” It got big laughs from the other fellows on the show.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200703150011
Later in March, Glenn Beck gets into the act. "She is like the stereotypical -- excuse the expression, but this is the way to -- she's the stereotypical bitch, you know what I mean?"

Oh my. Edwards was called a “faggot”. Hillary was called a “bitch”. What do you think the GOP would do if we called McCain a “pussy”?

Hillary’s bitchiness comes in all kinds of flavors. Tucker Carlson is particularly found of castration imagery.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200703200013
"But there's just something about her that feels castrating, overbearing, and scary." Carlson maintained

http://mediamatters.org/items/200707180009
" Host Tucker Carlson replied, "I have often said, when she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs."

Some others just think that she is a scary bitch :

http://mediamatters.org/items/200703220013
Later in the show, when discussing the pro-Obama YouTube video, Matthews asked Bloomberg columnist Margaret Carlson, "But is she Big Brother? Is she Big Brother?" Carlson responded that Clinton is "big mama" and likened Clinton to a "domineering mother."


http://mediamatters.org/items/200705080003
(Rush Limbaugh) "If I were to think about Barack Obama being in any trouble -- needing Secret Service -- I would look to Clinton Inc.before I looked at me. Try that, drive-by media. Get that out there."


http://mediamatters.org/items/200701240005
(Dana Milibank) That's true. By my count, there were 10 in the chamber there. And, in fact, Hillary Clinton was situated immediately behind Barack Obama , making it easier for her to actually place the knife into his back, if that's what she was trying to do.


That last one was so popular, Milbank reportedly repeated it several times that day.

And of course, the press has dredged up rumors about Vince Foster, implying that Hillary had him murdered and that she will murder anyone who gets in her way---or seek some form of diabolic revenge.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200707030007

On the July 2 edition of Fox News' The Big Story, Kellyanne Conway -- the CEO and president of the polling company inc., who, according to the biography posted on her company's website, "has provided commentary on over 1,000 ... television shows" -- suggested that Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY) would take "revenge" against the more than 250,000 people who have donated to Sen. Barack Obama's (D-IL) presidential campaign. Conway said: "hese are 250,000-plus people who are willing to publicly go against the Clintons. That's remarkable to me because, you know, Hillary Clinton ... puts a lot of energy into revenge."


http://mediamatters.org/items/200801140006
Here, Monica Crowley compares her to Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction .

http://mediamatters.org/items/200801210002
Syndicated columnist Dick Morris asserted on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes that Sen. Hillary Clinton's "temper is a cool, angry, 'I'll, you know, slit your throat in the middle of the night' temper."


The corporate media has even called Hillary a crazy bitch :

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802270010
Between February 25 and February 27, members of the media asserted Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton displayed "mood swings," "could be depressed," "esembl someone with multiple personality disorder," and "has turned into Sybil," an apparent reference to a book and movie about a woman who developed multiple personality disorder after being severely abused as a child.


Participating in this pile on, were Lawrence Kudlow, Jack Cafferty , Chris Matthews and Maureen Dowd.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200705160011

In her new book… Republican strategist Bay Buchanan notes that she is not "a medical professional" but nonetheless asserts that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) is defined by a "debilitating" "lack of confidence and self-esteem," adding that "fter days of research, I was led to a fascinating field of study involving narcissistic personality style."


However, when Hillary is not being a crazy bitch she is a cold and calculating bitch. Yes, I know that those two may seem hard to reconcile. Let’s give the guys and gals in the corporate media bonus points for creativity.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200701260012
“On the January 25 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, during a report on the importance of Western states in U.S. elections, NBC News correspondent George Lewis aired a quote by Sherry Bebitch Jeffe, a senior scholar at the University of Southern California, asserting that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) is "too New York, too elitist, too cold, if you will, to really talk the language of the Intermountain West."


http://mediamatters.org/items/200701290006
(Andrew Sullivan stated) that it was "hard to disagree with her on the war," and admitted that he "actually her positions appealing in many ways." Nevertheless, he concluded: "I just can't stand her. I'm sorry about that."


http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110010239
(Peggy Noonan wrote) Hillary Clinton doesn't have to prove she's a man. She has to prove she's a woman.She doesn't have to prove to people that she's tough enough or aggressive enough to be commander in chief. She doesn't have to show she could and would wage a war. She has to prove she has normal human warmth, a normal amount of give, of good nature, that she is not, at bottom, grimly combative and rather dark.


Noonan then speculates without any proof that an anonymous internet site that is soliciting tips about skeletons in Obama’s closet was set up by the Hillary 2008 campaign. Considering who Peggy Noonan is, I think it is more likely that the site was set up by Karl Rove and Noonan was directed to and told to write about it as if it were a Clinton site. For those of you to young to remember, here are Pat Buchanan’s list of dirty tricks that he came up with from the 1972 election for Dick Nixon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/watergate/stories/buchananmemo.htm

"The preparation of attacks on one Democrat by another -- and 'endorsements' of one Democrat by another, which has to be repudiated, are examples of what can be done. Nothing should be done here, incidentally, which can seriously backfire and anything done should be cleared by the highest campaign authority.


Which brings me to an important point. There are two reasons for selecting the Big Lie Hillary is a Bitch . The first is that people will forgive a man in a position of authority for being cool or aloof or even for having a temper. However, women are expected to be motherly no matter how much stress they are under. A woman lawyer, doctor, judge or politician must charm, smile, nurture----and be a tough as a man in order to satisfy her dual role as mother figure and leader. Margaret Carlson hit the nail right on the head when she said that some people fear Hillary because they project their fears of a domineering mother on her. Many people were not blessed with happy relationships with their mothers---especially men, in our culture which pushes boys from the nest and encourages girls to bond with their mothers for life. Though I have no way of knowing this for certain, I suspect that a poll which compares voter’s comfort with their relationship with their own mothers and their degree of comfort with Hillary would find a close correlation. Younger voters, who are more likely to be in stages of rebellion, may find her “scarier”, because they have recently rejected a woman in a position of authority in their own lives. To them, any woman who tells them what to do is just one step away from bitchiness. So, they are easily lead to believe that Hillary is a bitch.

The other reason to label Hillary a bitch is more complicated. Karl Rove has decided that this election will be modeled on 1968 and 1972. If possible, the Democrats will have a brokered convention, like 1968 which will leave the Party fractured. I have written about this several times in my journals starting last year. The MSM has attempted to bolster Obama’s campaign in order to keep him neck and neck with Hillary so that neither can win.

I suspect that Rove selected Obama to be his “McGovern” when he thought that Guiliani was going to be the nominee. A dirty campaigner like Rudi would be good at making mincemeat of Obama’s character. McCain may not be so good, and it is possible that Rove may be rethinking his “McGovern” and his “Muskie”. But until recently, Hillary was the “Muskie”, the one whom the right wingers attacked in an effort to erode her front runner status. They slimed her in every way possible. And the corporate media jumped right in, some because they were in on the bigger game, some because they just love ganging up on the Clintons. They even made her cry---though the effect was not what they intended.

In the original plan, with Hillary scheduled to be drummed out of the race and Obama slated to be the nominee, Rove needed to lay the groundwork for “Obama is a Scary Black Muslim”--a Lie that has no power in the Democratic Primary but which could prove deadly in the general election--- as soon as possible, since Big Lies are most effective if they have time to percolate in the national consciousness. However, if the story seemed to come from the RNC, no one would buy it. So, right wingers and Republicans went on the offensive way back in 2006, telling everyone that Hillary would start smearing Obama. Then, anonymous stories about Obama’s Muslim upbringing and drug use started circulating through the news media, first at right wing sites, then at the MSM. For no particular reason, the stories were attributed to the Clinton camp, because it was supposed to be her style. No one ever stopped to ask why Hillary would slime Obama with issues that Democrats do not really care about---drugs and religion are general election issues, not Democratic primary issues. Obama supporters were quick to cast stones at Hillary. Obama was slightly slower to acknowledge that she was not to blame----it helped him get ahead when he was way behind in the polls by casting him as Hillary's most serious rival. John Edwards, her real rival, was---of course---ignored.

The first coordinated Republican offensive in the Media Fatwa against Hillary, the January 2007 combined launching of Hillary is a Bitch and Obama is a Scary Black Muslim had the effect of slightly weakening her campaign and slightly strengthening his presidential bid. This too was intended.

This journal is much too long for me to continue so I will talk about later skirmishes and more flavors of Hillary's "bitchiness" in part two of this journal. Each media attack continues the same trend.

Remember: the corporate media is a liar!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:15 PM
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1. I hope SNL dedicates their entire episode to this theme tomorrow night.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:15 PM
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2. K & R SO I Can Read More Later
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:21 PM
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3. FFS
Hillary is the master of VICTIM politics. She is using the most vile tactics and then tries to hide behind her gender to deflect any and all incoming criticism. And that particular brand of politicking is precisely why more and more Democrats have had enough of the Clintons.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:27 PM
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4. Hi, atomic kitten. Nice to see you, too.
:)
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:35 PM
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8. you pegged it-
very nicely.
:hi:
peace~
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:38 PM
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12. cheers
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:46 PM
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16. So very well said! n/t
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:17 PM
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19. Her victim M.O. degrades women.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:04 PM
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25. Hi, AK! You nailed it.
The only thing Hillary is suffering from right now is self-immolation.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:36 AM
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37. Notice the OP mentions Obama briefly, and then it's all Hillary the victim:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:24 AM
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46.  Looky 3:1 last Tues--Mature voters know crap when the they see it.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:39 PM
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54. Nonsense, ProSense. The TITLE says it is The Press v. Hillary Clinton.
Truth in advertising.

"A rose is a rose is a rose."
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:32 AM
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48. Eggsactly!
Hillary Clinton has convinced the media that it is biased against her, one of the great (and rare) successes of her presidential campaign, akin to her creation of the vast right-wing conspiracy responsible for conceiving a string of sexual and other disgraces in her husband's White House.
With classic chutzpah, Clinton would have us believe that in a campaign in which she has escaped the most basic scrutiny of her finances, her husband's business relationships and her claims of experience, she is hurting because of the media's favorable treatment of Barack Obama.

On the race itself, the media has time and again let itself be manipulated by a Clinton campaign deftly managing expectations, albeit in increasingly surreal ways. Only two weeks ago the consensus was that Clinton had to win Texas or Ohio by 20 point margins to have a shot at the nomination (at the time these margins still seemed plausible). In recent days, her campaign has put out the word that if Obama doesn't win all four contests this Tuesday, it will be a sign of trouble for him. Of course journalists, no matter how lazy or gullible, know this is stupid, but nonetheless, maybe in a failed effort at fairness, they now seem to accept that Clinton needs to win either Texas and Ohio by any margin. Suddenly gone is the original assessment that Clinton has to win big on March 4, despite the fact that it is mathematically verifiable that there will be too few contests after Tuesday for her to make up the delegate count if she doesn't put a big dent in Obama's lead now. This judgment has become more accurate daily as Clinton's superdelegate lead melts away.

Losing eleven contests in a row, mostly by far wider margins than anyone had anticipated, would doom any campaign (in fact, can anyone think of one major primary contender who has survived such a string of defeats?). Yet the media continue to portray Clinton as strongly viable, if not quite the frontrunner. Again, this is a remarkable feat by her campaign, and an utter failure by most journalists to accurately portray the state of the race.

Clinton has been able to twist these expectations because so many are still in awe of her and her husband, attributing near-mystical powers to their ability to come back from the dead (the latest example, we are told, was her narrow New Hampshire win two months ago). At the same time, she has set up the media as sexist and easily wooed by Obama. This may be true, but, if anything, this has lead the guilt-ridden mainstream press to soften its negative coverage of the Clintons. Nowhere is this more visible than in the complete lack of recent interest in the couple's finances: far more has been written about Obama and Rezko, despite the relative benignity of the charge, than about how Bill and Hillary have amassed the tens of millions of dollars that make up their fortune, starting with her Arkansas cattle futures deal and ending with his Kazakhstan connections. There is a rich vein of potential conflict of interest, corruption and misuse of power that the media should relish covering in great detail, but much of the discussion has been relegated to a few bloggers. A particularly opportune time for coverage should have been when Clinton pulled out $5 million seemingly out of nowhere, to finance her campaign, but we're still left to wonder how these long-time public servants have instant access to such sums, especially since no tax returns are available.

In the meanwhile, journalists have been covering the cackle, the misty eyes and the pantsuit; Clinton should be eternally grateful for this, as it has distracted us from far bigger sins, made her look like a victim of the predominantly male political media's sexism, and rendered journalists insecure about their ability to cover her campaign objectively...

more http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-jenkins/clinton-and-the-vast-medi_b_89465.html
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:39 PM
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59. Well said! NT
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:18 PM
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62. Amen, time for Hillary to take her pacifier and go home.
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rolleitreks Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:27 PM
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5. I hope they do their job and expose her flaws mercilessly. n/t
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:32 PM
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6. Most, not all, of this is not so off the mark
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:32 AM
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47. well then---do some WORK instead of making claims not backed up with evidence!!
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:34 PM
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7. Yep, and if Obama becomes the nominee, he will be next. When there was
a call for "Free David Schuster" because he is one of the good guys I shook my head and screamed at the computer. "Haven't we learned anything on DU?" "THE COOPERATE MEDIA IS NOT OUR FRIENDS."

I give up, the hate, name calling. It's like a bunch of High school kids here. Sorry if I'm not making sense, but, oh never mind.

All I can say is, I will proudly vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is.

Peace
golddigger
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:35 PM
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9. It's too bad you spent so much time preparing this...
when all it does as show you as paranoid and lacking touch with reality. So it is ok for Hillary's surrogates to call Obama Ken Starr? I admit the Powers incident was stupid, but Obama showed maturity and cut the problem off at its head. I forgot that it was "the world vs. the Clintons". How self absorbed do you have to be to be constantly demanding nothing but perfect coverage. Anyway, I'm glad you made it easy for me to recognize who to block...
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:39 PM
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13. Time to get your free Kool-Aid refill. Hurry along now
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:37 AM
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38. Exactly! n/t
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:37 PM
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10. Amazing compilation. The media is diseased and the DUmb public
waddles to its coma

Bookmarked

Do you have this on a blog somewhere?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:37 PM
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11. Have you been watching the news over the past week? I think
Hillary's coverage has MORE than turned around. She got what she wanted.. a fawning press.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:13 PM
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17. Hillary's coverage turned around the minute Obama's delegate count surpassed hers.
The MSM wants a "Brokered Democratic Convention". Go read some of my more recent journals about MSNBC, like the one about the one in which they tried to persuade Wisconsin Republicans to vote for Clinton in order to create "Chaos at the Convention" (Democratic of course). I am not kidding.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:35 AM
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49. the press is taking off their kid -glove approach. Past time.
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:40 PM
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14. Great job Mccammy!
I'm completely disgusted by the predictable malleability of this Electorate. Watching Du'ers get played is pathetically sad.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:37 PM
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28.  "predictable malleability." Ain't that the truth!

New tidbits daily! Short shelf lives guaranteed!

McC's OP is one to keep in mind when the history of this primary is written.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:38 PM
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29. Bookmarked, recommended.

Books will be written on this topic..... :kick:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 07:46 PM
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15. I'll go even further McCamy, I think Obama is Rove's candidate this time around.
Thanks for compiling this information. I saved the whole page.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:14 PM
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18. I don't believe Obama would accept aid from Rove. Blackmail would be too much a risk.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:20 PM
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20. What does that mean? He would be Rove's puppet like W. What need
for blackmail? He will do everything that the powers that be wish, like W.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:31 AM
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36. Scary! You know this business about demanding that Hillary turn over her papers is Rovian.
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 01:34 AM by McCamy Taylor
Hillary would never let anyone go on a fishing expedition with her tax returns and private papers again unless it was something she had to do. She values her independence and privacy too much. Whitewater and Starr were too terrible a memory for her. Whoever told Obama to attack her in that way knew exactly what they were doing. It set up her hackles. Now, she looks like she has something to hide, even though being a Senator who has been planning to run for president from day one she probably doesn't. She is just showing her stubborn streak.

One of Rove's MO's is attack your opponent with your crime. If Obama knows he is going to face corruption and money scandal because of a trial, then try to get Hillary implicated in a money or corruption scandal, Or at least make it look like she is hiding one.

Another Rove MO is control the release of information that is bad for you. The way that Obama's drug experiences--which were going to come out since he wrote about them--have been used as ammunition against Hillary is actually quite brilliant. He is the victim. And given the way that America views drugs, he will probably get a free pass if he does not have some hidden criminal juvenile conviction that he is hiding--i.e if it was all personal use. Same for the Muslim issue. And if he becomes his party's nominee after all that info is out, it makes him looks invulnerable, as if the issues have been weighed and judged insignificant. So, yeah, if Rove had Obama on tape promising that no one in the Bush administration would get convicted of anything if he was elected, I could see Rove helping him. John McCain can't be trusted. He got slimed by W. in 2000. He might want revenge.

However, while this is possible, I would say the probability is slight. Very slight.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:06 AM
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42. Seek help
Paranoid delusions are a clinical disorder. It's beyond absurd to actually believe that Obama is Rove's puppet. It is, in a word, sick.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:43 PM
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21. K&R
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:02 PM
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22. Obama is going to be mercilessly crucified by the corporate media AND
by the HRC camp (her scorched earth tactics rival those of the Bush/Rove sort). HRC has Obama boxed however he responds--his only play is to be "above" politics as usual, in which he will be painted weak, ineffective, and confused. I don't see how he gets out of this mess since the press is so eager to play HRC negatives against Obama, yet, all the while tweaking anti-HRC undercurrents in other avenues like hate radio, blogs, etc. all of which will favor McCain eventually.

The Democratic Party Elders, if indeed there are such esteemed and commanding figures, need to step in and shake the rat-terrier shit right out of the HRC camp: play it civil, or it "we'll" end it for you. A guy can dream, eh????????

NoFederales
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:02 PM
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23. Great post.
:kick: and rec
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:04 PM
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24. Wow. Thanks for all your work here. Very interesting. Recommended. n/t
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:13 PM
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26. Thank You
for all the hard work in compiling this!

K&R.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:16 PM
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56. :-)
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:19 PM
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27. My respect for her grows knowing what she is facing. She is tough. And supposed democrats join in.
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surfin Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:40 PM
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34. She was real tough on the little 12yr old girl raped
She attack her and defend the rapist. I could never see Obama do that.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:46 AM
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39. Ugh.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:58 PM
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30. K & R. Bookmarked. nt
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:23 PM
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31. K and R!
Excellent post!!!
Bookmarked!!!

:patriot:
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:36 PM
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32. And the band played on.....
I note how the Obamatons run from posts of scintillating clarity, like a vampire from garlic. I guess McCamy's well-reasoned, well-presented narrative has too many words for them to absorb.

Tsk, tsk. Watching Obamatons spin a hatchet job on Hillary, after their candidate got a free pass for months on end, is quite amusing. If Obama can't stand the heat now, he has no chance by November. Meanwhile, Hillary is skewered, butchered, and left for dead, but has the guts and stomach to persevere.

All the while, the Obamites go wah, wah, wah, as they get played for the rubes and marks they are. What dutiful little drones they are, repeating the latest corporate mantras and MSM talking points, as if it was their own original thought.

Disgusting!
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:37 PM
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33. Thank you for your tireless research, MCT.
:kick:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:46 PM
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35. Fantastic work - as always! I am a real fan of your work!
:thumbsup:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:46 AM
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40. Press is fawning over her right now. Creating fake momentum.
So stop whining.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 02:02 AM
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41. Stunning analysis.
Amazing body of work you have wrought...simply stunning. Say it enough times, people will believe it, is the old adage and the MSM has been busy trying to destroy her.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:00 PM
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55. ;-)
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:44 AM
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43. Bad use of the word "fatwa"
which just means legal guidance.

No need to perpetuate anti-Islamic stereotypes, especially since this word is totally irrelevant in the context of your post.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:19 AM
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44. Fatwa also includes permission to ignore ordinary civil rules for religious reasons
in its connotations. As in the MSM ignores the ordinary rules of journalism which tell it to report the truth accurately in an unbiased fashion, because they believe that they are serving a higher cause, that of their corporate masters or that of their own dislike for the Clintons or whatever it may be.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:22 AM
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45. Mature voters have tuned out the crap from the media--3:1 last Tuesday:-)


What I found when I began to accumulate data was so shocking---through 8 hours of internet research I was able to amass 40 pages of condensed hard core Hillary bashing, most of it consisting of lies and malicious innuendo and that was without the Chris Tweety Matthews links since they have already been well documented here
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:37 AM
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50. I know! Wonderful, isn't it! However, I worry, how will they get their news?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:39 AM
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51. I myself read the foreign presses a few times a week
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 07:22 AM
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52. Thanks for the research
...it gave Obama supporters an opportunity to do more piling on. They need to give it a break.

But keep hope alive. Hillary can prevail though all the murk. Tough though it will be.
And Obama gets trashed too. It just takes different forms and has, perhaps, only just begun.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:02 PM
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53. It is horrible how so many Obamafans bring RW smut to DU as "evidence' to diss Hillary!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:30 PM
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57. K&R
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:33 PM
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58. K and R nt
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:47 PM
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60. How 'Bout those Damned AUTHORS, TOO!







The senator from new yawk is a proctologist's dream!:spank:













I served, how about you, Slick Willie?




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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 06:16 PM
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61. Ahh, but folks don't want to really see the abundant evidence of anti-HRC bias...
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 06:16 PM by libbygurl
...because you know, it's self-evident - O is simply great, and no one can resist his charms. Just take their word for it.
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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:12 PM
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63. THANK YOU SO MUCH...I'm saving this, great excerpts. K & R
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:17 PM
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65. Could you provide the link to this, please? Thanks. N/T
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