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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:01 PM
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Hillary's shame: embracing McCain
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 08:07 PM by ProSense
Video: Hillary and McCain: One and the Same




So what is it that makes you, Hillary, think that your "good friend" McCain, who you claim is a “distinguished man with a great history of service to our country," has "cross the commander-in-chief threshold" and is more qualified to be president than Obama?

Is it this:

"So many contradictions"

It's true. John McCain, despite the the common wisdom, is the very definition of a flip-flopping Republican candidate. Almost as bad as Mitt Romney, if that's possible. But the public perception and media spin about McCain has somehow been ingrained, and it's going to take someone with a record of consistency to counter that in the general election. As Senator Kerry explains to Andrea Mitchell, that person is Barack Obama.

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"The Bushification of John McCain" started in 2004, just two short years after President Bush swiftboated the Senator mercilessly, and since then, his record of enabling the administration, from his 100 years war to his flip-flop on taxes, religion and womens' rights, to his birthday party with the President while the Gulf coast was drowning is proof that this John McCain is no maverick. What he is, on the contrary, is Bush III.

Master of the bad joke, McCain has demonstrated that he's equally capable making fun of children and of making a mockery of our foreign relations. I wonder how he thinks that will play in the Middle East?

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Moreover, McCain has:
  • Voted against a bill declaring the third Monday in January a federal holiday honoring Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

  • Voted to cut off federal assistance to public schools that prohibit prayer in school.

  • Voted to strike provisions of the Racial Justice Act that would prohibit the death sentence in state and federal cases if a defendant could prove with statistical or other evidence that the race of the victim played a role in sentencing.

  • Voted against a 1996 bill to prohibit job discrimination based on sexual orientation.

  • Voted against measures to increase the minimum wage, against a woman's right to choose, and with Bush 91 percent of the time last year.

    link


This: McCain: "I'd just commit suicide" if Democrats take control of Senate

McCain: Clinton's North Korea policy 'a failure'

His 0 percent NARAL rating
His 20 percentrating by Disabled American Veteran
His D grade from Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America
His 0 percent rating from League of Conservation Voters
His 10 percent rating from the Children's Defense Fund

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His plan to overturn Roe v. Wade

McCain's spiritual guide Rod Parsley and his supporters

McCain's embrace of Jerry Falwell



McCain Courts Secret Radical Religious Conservative Group For Support In Presidential Bid

...His Embrace Of Bush’s Plan To Privatize Social Security


McCain's vote against a ban on waterboarding and his waterboarding punchline

McCain's "rogue state rollback," which is to "arm, train, equip, both from without and from within, forces that would eventually overthrow the governments and install free and democratically- elected governments."

Is it that McCain endorsed your 3AM ad

Did you think about the impact a McCain presidency would have on a Democratic agenda, our principles and values, when you said the choice between McCain and Obama on national security is a "critical criterion for the next Democratic nominee to deal with"?




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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:25 PM
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1. Pretty embarrassing record, huh? n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:36 PM
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2. This was a low point for Hillary and the Democratic Party.
Let's hope it was THE low point.
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:38 PM
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3. K&R n/t
:kick:
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:40 PM
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4. so i take it that this and the cluster bombs are today's talking points?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:44 PM
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5. Great post thanks for all the info

Rec!
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:49 PM
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6. kick
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:49 PM
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7. That picture of them together still drives me to anger about her.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:18 AM
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14. It's kinda
gross! n/t
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 08:51 PM
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8. how can she keep saying McCain is acceptable?
???
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:09 PM
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9. Pro - that picture of Hillary and McCain was taken shortly after they BOTH smeared Kerry.
THAT is what makes that pic even more disgusting to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg


They are VILE -
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:02 PM
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11. I hadn't realized that -
They look so happy together.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 11:19 PM
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13. It's bizarre! n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:02 AM
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22. Sure - neither one of them wanted to have to DEBATE Kerry for 2008 primary or general
because both knew they would never have a chance when the public sees and hears BOTH on stage together.

They need to control the media SPIN against Kerry without him having the same access and without having to confront him face to face with their smears and lesser abilities on the debate stage.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 09:52 PM
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10. Does Hillary believe that McCain's appointment to the SCOTUS will be any different from Bush's? n/t
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Thepricebreaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 10:07 PM
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12. She is McCain's Monica. n/t
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:19 AM
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15. Is it wrong for them to hide their love? n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:29 AM
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16. It's remarkable how out of touch the Clintons have become with well 'us'
After all the squabbling and fighting and all of the dirty tricks etc., nothing has had the impact in here as the McCain love fest. A number of Hillary's most ardent supporters have stopped on a dime for her. These are the volunteers she needs to make a showing in PA.

Can you imagine all of the eastcoast Obamamites that are jumping for joy that they can drive to PA and rejoin the battle.

Those young equivalents for Hillary in here have to a very large extent said over the last two days called it quits. Its like those

basketball pick up games on a Saturday where by the time the sun goes down you cannot remember who is on your team.

I keep trying to think of what subterranian strategy they are doing that would make it all make sense.

Goes back to what the Obama's said about running now and not moving to Washington, after a little while it takes you over.

The Clinton's are not stupid. They just have been at the book signing, big tick speaking tours, and have pampered like the emperor

in the forbidden city.

These guys are just out of touch.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:47 AM
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39. Completely out of touch! n/t
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:33 AM
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17. Whatever benefit of the doubt I had for her was obliterated when she said that.
It REALLY turned me off on her. ugh. I now want NOTHING to do with this woman. I would love to see a woman president. But it should also be someone who is worthy. And quite frankly, Hillary is not worthy of being the first woman president.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:35 AM
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18. Why is it ok that Kerry asked McCain to be his running mate in 04?
thats perfectly acceptable?? fucking horrendous.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:52 AM
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19. Kerry did no such thing. He isn't Hillary. I take it you also find McCain embarrassing? n/t
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 01:52 AM by ProSense
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:54 AM
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20. and that barack praises reagan?
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 01:55 AM by annie1
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 01:57 AM
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21. Obama didn't praise Reagan, but Hillary did
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 01:59 AM by ProSense
He played the balance and the music beautifully.

All the projecting that comes from the Hillary camp.
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fbuzz Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:38 AM
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44. Obama Praised Reagan For Three Hours, and It's Even In His Book!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 11:07 AM
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23. "The era of big government is over' was a Dem president ACCEPTING Reagan's philosophy of governance
in front of the entire nation.

YOu all are incapable of READING COMPREHENSION if you assert that Obama was praising Reagan instead of ACKNOWLEDGING THE FACT that Reagan's INFLUENCE went beyond his presidency and INTO the next few presidencies, including the DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATION of Bill Clinton.

In my opinion, you all know this, but have decided to spin because you think it helps Clintons, but it actually just makes the spinners sound unethical with their need to twist what was said or ignorant and incapable of simple comprehension.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 12:42 PM
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24. All that's left for Hillary's campaign
are talking points that she shares with McCain.
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fbuzz Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:39 AM
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45. Obama Blasted The Dems of the 1960s. Give Me A Break!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 03:55 PM
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25. Rove advising McCain
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 03:56 PM by ProSense

Mehlman, Rove boost McCain campaign

By: David Paul Kuhn
Mar 8, 2008 07:08 AM EST

John McCain is getting much more than President Bush's endorsement and fundraising help for his campaign. He’s getting Bush's staff.

It’s no secret that Steve Schmidt, Bush’s attack dog in the 2004 election, and Mark McKinnon, the president’s media strategist, are performing similar functions for McCain now.

But other big-name Bushies are lining up to boost McCain, too.

Ken Mehlman, who ran Bush’s 2004 campaign, is now serving as an unpaid, outside adviser to the Arizona Republican. Karl Rove, the president’s top political hand since his Texas days, recently gave money to McCain and soon after had a private conversation with the senator. A top McCain adviser said both Mehlman and Rove are now informally advising the campaign. Rove refused to detail his conversation with McCain.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 04:35 PM
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26. Real Time Terry McAuliffe Interview March 7, 2008
Edited on Sat Mar-08-08 04:35 PM by ProSense
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 05:44 PM
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27. Bill dropping hints. Trying to land
Hillary a VP slot

Obama not interested.

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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-08-08 08:36 PM
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28. Such a lovely couple.
I think she married the wrong guy.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 12:53 PM
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29. Everyone is embarrassed by her endorsement! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-09-08 09:16 PM
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30. McCain's "lifetime of experience"
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:50 PM
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31.  Clinton's Loony Veepstakes Logic

Clinton's Loony Veepstakes Logic

<...>

Well, Obama isn't flattered--and rightfully so. Stumping this morning in Columbus, Mississippi ahead of tomorrow's Magnolia State primary, Obama told a raucous, applauding crowd that he's bewildered by Clinton's second-fiddle suggestion. "With all due respect, I have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton," he said. "I have won more of the popular vote than Senator Clinton. I have more delegates than Senator Clinton. So I don't know how someone in second place is offering the vice presidency to the person in first place." Then Obama twisted the knife a little further, mocking the Clintonites' constant reminders that he's unqualified to be commander-in-chief. “I don’t understand," he said. "If I am not ready, how is it that you think I would be such a great vice president? You can’t say he is not ready on day one, then you want him to be your vice president. I just want everybody to absolutely clear: I am not running for vice president. I am running to be president of the United States of America."

<...>

The more Obama mentions Clinton's silly gambit, the less likely it is to work. So expect him to keep mentioning it. That said, I still think an Obama-Clinton ticket is a possibility, especially if the Democratic contest continues until the convention. "Reluctant to overturn the will of the people, the superdelegates would pick Obama for prez," I wrote last week. "Unwilling to ignore Clinton's strength and supporters, they would insist that he select her as his running mate in return." If the job at all interests her (and it'd be hard to say no at this point), she might want to quit the hoodwinking while she's ahead--or, you know, behind.

UPDATE, 6:33 p.m.: A source points me in the direction of today's Michael Goodwin column from the New York Daily News. The key quote:

The offer of a joint ticket looks like an olive branch, but it's really a knife aimed at cutting Obama down to size. In the words of one Clintonista, "It's a way of belittling him" by suggesting he's not ready to be President and would lose the general election as nominee to John McCain.

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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:08 PM
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32. i still would like to see the taxes released
sometime..
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:31 PM
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33. Great post. Thanks n/t
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:33 PM
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34. Her endorsement of McCain was really a watershed moment - and its cost her a lot.
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fbuzz Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:38 AM
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43. She Never Endorsed Him
She simply stated that she is the one who can debate McCain. Not Obama.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 08:34 AM
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35. McCain's next big test: Econ 101

McCain's next big test: Econ 101

By: Jonathan Martin
Mar 11, 2008 05:58 AM EST

When the February jobs report came out on Friday, economists grimaced and Wall Street blanched.

John McCain, however, said the news was “not terrible” — and Democrats pounced.

“Once again, John McCain demonstrated just how little he understands about the economy,” the Democratic National Committee declared in an e-mail to reporters.

<...>

Helping make the Democrats’ argument is McCain himself.

McCain’s campaign paradigm was largely focused on his experience in foreign policy and national security. His only seeming economic passions are free trade, cutting taxes and curbing spending — traditional GOP policy tools that thus far have played only a minor role in the debate about how to respond to the subprime mortgage crisis.

Then there is McCain’s style. One of his biggest strengths, his penchant for candor, is also among his most significant weaknesses. And on the economy, he’s provided some fodder that opposition researchers only dream of.

Most significant were two comments, one to The Wall Street Journal in 2005 and the other to The Boston Globe last year, where he admitted that he was not sufficiently up to speed on the economy.

“The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should,” McCain said in December.

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Obama on the Jobs Report: Americans can't afford John McCain:

Barack Obama on the jobs report showing that 63,000 jobs were lost in February:

The second straight month in a row of job loss is the biggest drop in five years and brings more bad news for an economy showing signs of recession and more heartache and struggle for the Americans I meet every day who are looking for work, can't pay the bills, or are worried that their job will be the next to disappear. They can't afford John McCain's promise of four more years of the very same failed Bush economic policies that have failed us for the last eight, and they can't afford another politician who promises solutions but won't change the divisive, lobbyist-driven politics in Washington. As President, I'll bring both parties together and take on the money and influence of Washington so we can restore balance to our economy, and I'll create millions of new jobs with good wages by investing in infrastructure and renewable energy.




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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 01:36 PM
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36. Pelosi: No ticket

Pelosi: No ticket

Nancy Pelosi tells Boston TV that a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket is "impossible."

"I think that the Clinton administration has fairly ruled that out by proclaiming that Senator McCain would be a better Commander in Chief than Obama. I think that either way is impossible," she said.

Also: "Nothing ever resolves itself -- it has to be resolved by some outside forces," she said.






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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 01:48 PM
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37. MS exit polls
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-13-08 08:45 AM
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38. Hillary's endorsement is
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:31 AM
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41. Yes, for her it is all about the nomination, not the GE.
Really doesn't matter to her if she helps McCain in the GE.
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From The Left Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:25 AM
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40. They are "Very Close." Per Billary
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:36 AM
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42. McCain's national security credentials far exceed those of Obama. That's what
Hillary was talking about. But she did give Obama credit for his oratorical skill.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:22 PM
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46. Then vote for McCain. Obama will be the Dem nominee. n/t
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