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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 09:54 AM Original message |
Tough math on the democratic side - neither candidate has the # to secure nomination |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
1. But One Candidate Will Have More Delegates |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. It's not that simple, those aren't the rules, if there's a less than 200 vote gap. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. What is the historical precedent? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Electablity, a downswing in the polls because of a controversey, many things. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Electabilty? |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. If The Superdelegates Fuel The Loser To A Win |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. There are so many things to consider it's not even funny. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. What are those convincing arguments? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I've never had someone debunk the examples I used. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. See my posts on this thread |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. The Vote Is The Best Tool That We Have For This Job |
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DemVet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. Counting Super-Delegates? They have just as much say as "regular" delegates |
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Sulawesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. This argument has never rung true to me... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Obama was the one attempting to influance the will of the supers. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. But winning is the most convincing argument to be made. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Winning what? Delegates? PV? National polls? If you don't think this race isn't split down the line. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Well lets talk about all three |
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jaybeat (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. You're right. It is WAY more complicated. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
3. I hope you stay true to your DU name when Obama goes to the convention with more delegates. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Actually, robbedvoter is one of the rarely consistant DU posters. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Ok...... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. They wouldn't be overturning the results. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. To take the second place candidate |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
4. Sorta like War of the Roses? "But MY half is bigger!" Tis true, tis true. |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
5. This is one reason |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. The fifty delegates weren't going to do a simultaneous endorsement, |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Incorrect. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. That's fine. I'm simply repeating what Brokaw said when he broke the story |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. No prob. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. She is comletely out of contention |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
33. He got just under 10 this past week. Wake the fuck up. |
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cbayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
44. I think you are absolutely right. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
8. Once again though we need to step through the flaws of this argument |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
29. Dean has assured in statement that undecided superdlegates will follow the will of the people. |
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libbygurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
31. Yup. It's the 'battleground states' that Clinton has won that really matter more... |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Winning a battleground state in a primary |
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libbygurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Yep-precisely-GE not same as Primary. Clinton is very strong among registered Dems-who are NOT... |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. yes. I think they will. nt |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. A LOT of Republicans seriously dislike McCain |
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libbygurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
32. ! |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
34. Denver delegates will have to opt for Gravel. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
35. no doubt |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
40. I disagree |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
41. realistically, are Democrats in those states not going to vote Democratic? |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. I don't think the outcome of these states has anything to do with who will win in November |
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MindMatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
46. This is complete nonsense |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-08-08 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
47. Spin it any way you want... the Supers all realize that going against the pledged count is.... |
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