Wes Clark is DEAD TO ME NOW!

[nonconformist]

I used to love and respect Wes Clark. He is, after all, an expert in foreign policy and national security. He is a brilliant man.

HOWEVER, now, his true self has been revealed:

Wes Clark is nothing but a Hillary-shilling hack. Fuck him. How DARE HE use his considerable experience and intelligence to question Obama. He's been fooling us all along, tricking us into instilling HILLARY as CIC.

Other people who are dead.to.me.

Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame. DEAD TO ME. What do they know, anyway? That's right, NOTHING. What possible insight could they have that your average media personality doesn't have? Weak little unimportant shills, the Wilsons are.

Paul Krugman. DEAD TO ME. HACK. Like he knows a damn thing about the economy. I know that he, along with the Wilsons, were some of the only people speaking out about Bush at one point, but it must have been just a big conspiracy. He must have been in cahoots with Wes Clark on that.

Just a handful of the other people who are DEAD TO ME:

Maya Angelou

Stephanie Tubbs Jones

Robert Kennedy Jr

Ann Richard's daughter

Roseanne Barr

Whoopi Goldberg

Chelsea Clinton

Jack Nicholson


And, most importantly, BILL CLINTON. DEAD TO ME. Wow, I finally realized that the right-wing was TOTALLY RIGHT about him and his little wife all along. If only I had listened then. What a shitty president he was.









See, two can play at that game: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4968339

[Dinger]

1. Automatically Makes Him A Hero

[leftofcool]

2. No doubt they feel really bad about the loss of you

delusions of grandeur?

[nonconformist]

5. Satire

See this http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4968339

[Exilednight]

15. If this is satire, then it wasn't done as well as the other Olbermann thread.

[nonconformist]

17. Because it's more fact-based.

I used actual comments from Obama supporters on mine, instead of making a bunch of shit up.

[fenriswolf]

29. No you used people who endorsed Hillary

rather then on the Obama thread a list of people of whom a lot of the hillary supporters have been decrying because of their negative view of the clintons. but whatever its your dillusion right? where the obama thread had substance you just spew out what you think might get a few laughs.

[nonconformist]

32. I had a bunch of links to threads, but I was advised to remove them

to keep the thread from getting locked.

But they're out there, oh yes.

[Exilednight]

36. This is how you do satire ....

Let me get on my soapbox, I do it once a week. After all this is vintage soapbox stuff. We have god, politics and money, and homosexuality.

Has anyone ever heard of restless leg syndrome? It’s where you move your leg about in your sleep. It’s awful, and you may have it. It may not keep you awake at night, it might not harm you in any way, probably won’t harm you in the slightest. Nonetheless it’s awful the pharmaceutical companies have deemed it so. So they developed a drug and you simply must take it.

If you haven’t of restless leg syndrome, you probably have attention deficit disorder. We have a lot of drugs for that one, you must take them.

Jenny, you looked depressed.
Alex, you’re not sleeping enough.
Gretchen, you think you’re shy, but you actually have Social Anxiety Disorder.
Mark, you say you have a weak stream when you urinate.
Joseph, Irritable bowel syndrome you say?

You have all kinds of ailments you don’t know about. Luckily we have pills for all of them. There’s actually a pill that helps you forget, you can take that to forget that you even had restless leg syndrome, or irritable bowels.

That brings us to same sex attraction disorder. Wow what a fancy name, it even makes it sound official. What troubles me is why haven’t the pharmaceutical companies made a pill to cure you of it?

Clearly they are in the business of selling sickness, if there were a profit to be made they would make it. With an estimated gay population of 10 million in the US alone, there is surely a market for it.

Could it be that they can’t cure it?

Well not to worry, if big pharmaceutical can’t, then most certainly big religion can.

Well big religion is trying; after all they are the ones who coined the term “same sex attraction disorder”- that’s a very good name. It’s important to give it a good name. It’s the first step in disqualifying homosexuals as a segment of the population and telling them that they have a disease.

It makes homosexuals look less like people, and more like a bad case of the flu. It has terrible and awful symptoms, but nonetheless the Evangelical church say it is curable.

Never mind that one of the President’s most trusted spiritual advisers’ was himself caught in a homosexual relationship, or that a republican congressman was writing naughty e-mails to an underage male page- I was told it was curable- at least that’s what they told me down at the church.

Well you can legislate against it, you can go home to your wife and pretend that it feels right, you can join a convent and take a vow of celibacy, you can give it a clever name and treat people for it, you can drive around on a Saturday night with a baseball bat and try and beat it out of some poor soul,

Only in America, only in a country that overtly and notoriously celebrates its prejudice by proposing constitutional amendments against a class of people to limit their freedoms.

God Bless us all- Home of the brave- Shame on you

I hope the churches that are attempting to cure this offers a money back guarantee, and throw in a blender as a parting gift.

[leftofcool]

24. satire requires some level of expertise

The Olberman thread was really well thought out

[11 Bravo]

62. And sometimes it requires a modicum of wit just to discern.

[11 Bravo]

61. Ummm ... did you actually read the post?

I suppose for your sake I should hope not.

[featherman]

3. Wes Clark is great just on the other side for a while... no biggie

[surfin]

59. Just emotional as it sunk in, I am not going to be VP

If Hillary keeps wanting to be Obama's VP and maybe that will make him mad and turn on her.

She learned alot sliming fish, the only ex

[madaboutharry]

4. Whoopi Goldberg voted for Obama

Sometimes a remake is unnecessary. That is why no one ever filmed a remake of Casablanca. bvar22 gave us a masterpiece, it is best left alone.

[nonconformist]

11. No she didn't. She switched to Hillary.

http://www.google.com/search?q=whoopi+goldberg+obama+hillary&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B2GGGL_enUS176US207

[madaboutharry]

19. She voted for Obama

She announced on The View the day after the NY Primary.

[TheDebbieDee]

31. There is also videotape of Whoopi sttaing that she voted

for Hillary. On Huffington Post.

[madaboutharry]

35. O.K., I stand corrected.

n/t

[bigtree]

6. Wes Clark is a great American

and, you put Maya Angelou on your list?

nonconformist, YOU are responsible for your own actions, not some thread you read.

This must be a joke . . . why do I waste time on this?

[Big Blue Marble]

7. This thread has the stink of plagiarism,

How cute. How about using your own creativity instead of
stealing from others.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4968339

[buff2]

8. Fuck you and your Democratic hate mongering

Go back to Freekrepublic where you belong.

[Maddy McCall]

9. Check your PM....pronto.

And K.R

[papau]

10. all very true - but on DU only Obama walks on water posts get appreciated by large numbers

[John Q. Citizen]

23. Doesn't Hillary dot com have a blog where you can gush unimpeded by reality?

[lazer47]

12. I'm sure Wes Clark is just sitting around worrying about what you think

Because what you think is soooo fucking important ti the agenda:sarcasm:

[nonconformist]

18. It's satire.

It's sad I have to explain that. I adore Wes.

[Deja Q]

13. Roseanne is voting for Hillary?

Cool! Another reason to like Hillary.

[Bucky]

14. This would be funnier satire if most pro-Obama Clarkies weren't saying the opposite.

But it's still kinda cute.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

26. Yeah, that's the thing. It's the Clinton folks who are shunning liberal icons.

The only person on that list that I would say I no longer respect is Paul Krugman. And that's only because he didn't just come out and say he was supporting Clinton. He pretended to be an Edwards guy, while parroting all of Hillary's talking points and bashing Obama.

[nonconformist]

30. I haven't shunned anyone.

You won't find a single comment of mine degrading any of the high profile people who are backing Obama. But if you think Obama people aren't shunning liberal icons, you should read about the board more. Clark and Wilson in particular have been the victims of some really VILE shit.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

39. Get a load of some of the stuff the Clinton people were saying about Randi Rhodes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4952945

Randi is a HUGELY popular progressive radio host. Whatever was said about Clark and Wilson is probably nothing compared to the disgusting comments made by Hillary supporters here. Mocking her for an accident she had, suggesting it was because she's an alcoholic. I'll tell ya, these Faux Feminists For Hillary are really something else. They'll defend their Queen's honor to the death, but have no qualms about sliming other women.

[nonconformist]

41. I don't condone any of that.

However, Randi is popular but she has always had TONS of people on here that disagreed with her on certain points and her tactics, for years. She was never at the level of a liberal icon as Wes Clark and Joe Wilson were.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

44. Oh, so sliming her isn't as bad then. Wilson and Clark are more "important".

Thanks for clearing that up for me. :eyes:

[nonconformist]

48. My point is that Randi has always had her detractors on DU

I'm not one of them, but she has. Sliming and insulting Clark and Wilson, however, is new territory for DU.

[Catherine Vincent]

52. That is true.

Randi Rhodes has always had a lot of DUers that can't stand her. I don't listen to her show but I love it when she's on tv bashing the hell out of republicans.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

54. Oh, I see, that's the standard.

Randi's fair game for sliming because some people here already didn't like her, but Wilson and Clark are sacrosanct. :eyes:

And I'd still like you to demonstrate where anything that was said about those guys held a candle to the awful things that were said about Randi.

[nonconformist]

58. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4969487&mesg_id=4971589

[mrreowwr_kittty]

66. A cursory glance at the headlines

Leads me to conclude that neither Wilson, Clark, nor Krugman will be characterized as nasty, falling down drunks. It looks like they are being criticized (admittedly sometimes stidently) for their opinions but not being attacked personally in the disgusting manner that Ms. Rhodes was.

[nonconformist]

70. Well, a "cursory glance at the headlines" doesn't let you see the comments

And yes, they were attacked personally. Comments like "fuck YOU, Wes" aren't exactly reasoned criticism.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

71. It's not calling him a drunkard and mocking him for a terrible accident either.

I've seen more kindness shown to GWB toward his alleged drinking problem than what was shown to Randi. By so-called feminists.

[lligrd]

16. Roseanne, Whoopi, Nicholson???

Now those are the ones whom I always turn to for advice. :rofl:

[ihavenobias]

21. Excellent Point n/t

[nonconformist]

22. No, but they've been torn apart here.

But some of those people, like Clark and the Wilsons, especially, are people I trust.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

56. That's what they call Argument from Authority.

It's a logical fallacy. Clark and Wilson are not incapable of being wrong.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

45. Yet the OP just told me that Randi Rhodes is not a liberal icon. nt

[nonconformist]

46. No, I didn't.

I said she doesn't have the same respect and caliber in the Democratic party as Wes Clark and Joe Wilson have, and that's true.

[lligrd]

51. Well She Sure The Hell Should

She is far more liberal than either one. Neither Clark nor Wilson have been Democrats for long and they certainly aren't liberals. I respect their speaking up when it counted and being good Americans but they can't compare to Rhodes in the good progressive department.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

55. Whoopi, Roseanne, and Jack Nicholson too?

[nonconformist]

57. No, not at all.

They're just a few people that have been slammed on here for daring to not support Obama.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

60. But, but, they're not Important Democratic Icons like Wilson and Clark so...

...wait...I'm confused! Is it okay to slime the lesser icons or not?

[nonconformist]

63. When did I EVER say it was okay?

In fact, I think I said pretty clearly that I don't condone that and I don't take part.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

67. And then pointed out that Randi was already disliked and wasn't as big an icon. nt

[tishaLA]

20. This thread: Change you can Xerox

[mzmolly]

25. I don't think we can demand all good people think as we do? Clark was the likely VP

pick for Hillary Clinton. I just realized this is tit for tat.

[dbonds]

27. Copycat satire doesn't really work does it.

[burythehatchet]

28. This post reminded me of that Fox News hit program The 30 minute News Hour

or something like that. Remember that show?

[Debi]

33. Um, YAWN

:boring:

[gulliver]

34. Good post!

Makes its point well.

[hell-bent]

37. Wonderful post!

But, the Messianic followers are not pleased!:rofl:

[yourguide]

38. Ann Richards

Ann Richards' two sons are not dead to me.

Side note: Ann Richards is dead to all of us

[Tom Rinaldo]

40. So why do Barney Frank, George McGovern, and UFW Co-Founder Dolores Huerta deserve to live?

They should be dead to you also.

[nonconformist]

42. Ahh yes, you are correct.

In my haste (because I actually should be doing something else, blasphemy) to get this posted, I neglected several other prominent people that are sooo dead.to.me.

;)

[11 Bravo]

64. Hell no! Neocon shitweasels, the whole bunch of them!

[yourguide]

43. Additional side note

The following people have always been dead to me:


Roseanne Barr

Whoopi Goldberg



Jack Nicholson has been dead to me since "As Good As It Gets"

[senseandsensibility]

47. Some DUers are really

sarcasm impaired.

[melody]

49. I respect all these people .... I disagree with their politics right now

Maya Angelou is a good friend of the Clinton's. She's also a good friend of Oprah's. Things must be
uncomfortable for her right now. She's still a brilliant woman who is one of my favorite writers.

[NorthernSpy]

50. Wes Clark was never all that alive to me in the first place...

:shrug:

[Catherine Vincent]

53. Don't forget about Larry Johnson. nt

[Sparkly]

65. You forgot Maxine Waters. nt

[angie_love]

68. I never liked any of those ppl you listed except the Clintons...

So who cares?

[Egnever]

69. You used to respect rosanne barr?

wow your bar is incredibly low.

[krkaufman]

72. Not me. As a late-term Obama supporter, I wholly agree with Wes Clark's opinion ...

... that Hillary's vote for the Iraq/AUMF resolution was a vote "to give George W. Bush a blank check to go to war." (link)

This is why I supported Clark in 2004, and am now supporting Sen. Obama. Too bad Wes' Arkansas political ties require him to get behind the candidate most contrary to his own previously stated position.

[krkaufman]

73. p.s. That's kind of a weak "dead to me" list. Jack Nicholson? Really? n/t