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Mon Mar-10-08 01:30 PM
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So it has to be asked: Will Hillary denounce and reject Eliot Spitzer's endorsement? |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:31 PM
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1. Your Trying To Compare This Recent Event Of Spitzer To A Lifetime Of Farrakhan Is Ridiculous. |
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Do you not see how absolutely insane of a comparison that is?
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:33 PM
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Obama didn't accept Farrakhan's endorsement, Clinton definitely accepted Spitzer's.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:37 PM
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13. Now That's What I Call Having A Wildly Warped Perception. Holy Cow. |
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The things that come out of the mouths of some DU'ers...
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:44 PM
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24. Blame your candidate. |
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She railed against Obama for being endorsed by Farrakhan, someone he didn't have any connection with. So what's she going to do now that one of her big supporters is involved in an ILLEGAL prostitution ring? Or is that ok?
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:38 PM
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14. Sounds "fair" if you're an insipid moron, sure |
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Only the deepest kool-aid drinkers of Team Obama would try to equate paying for sex to antisemitism. :eyes:
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:45 PM
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26. Hey, I'm only playing on what Clinton said, bud. |
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She should put up, or shut up.
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:09 PM
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38. Your trollbaiting isn't even making sense anymore, chief |
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Calling on Obama to denounce an antisemitic bigot has nothing to do with Clinton renouncing Spitzer. When and if he announces his guilt to the public and likely resignation, we'll deal with the fall out. There's no reason for Clinton to drop him like a hot potato right at this literal second when only rumors and "sources say" are carrying the story here.
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:12 PM
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41. Are you calling yourself a troll ("trollbaiting accusation)"? |
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Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 02:12 PM by catgirl
I think the endorsement question is a good one, seeing Hillary called Obama out on an endorsement, like it's any of her business. It's really up to the voters to decide on the issue.
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:15 PM
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42. Wow, another dim O-Bot |
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It is everyone's business if people who have known prejudices against Jews, or any other ethnicity/religion for that matter, are endorsing political candidates. We, along wit the candidate's opponents, have the right and the expectation to demand that they disown any such endorsements.
The issue here is the idiotic attempts to link Farrakhan to Spitzer.
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:31 PM
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53. Your idiotic attempt of justifying Spitzer's activities makes me ill. |
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There is, of course, one big difference between Farrakhan and Spitzer. Obama never sought Farrakhan's endorsement, Farrakhan is not a superdelegate and has not worked with his campaign. Spitzer's endorsement was big for Clinton, he is a superdelegate (was, I guess) pledged to her and worked for her campaign.
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Mon Mar-10-08 10:06 PM
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57. If you're ill, it is likely due to kool-aid overdosing, O-Bot |
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Keep trying to connect paying for a call girl to bigotry though. You are good for a laugh if nothing else.
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:29 PM
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52. It's more than a rumor now, he just resigned. |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:41 PM
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19. A lifetime of Farrakhan??? BS. You must be joking. |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:41 PM
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20. Absoulutely, Hillary Clinton had absolutely no involvement in this NY scandal -as far as I know |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:43 PM
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23. "...as far as I know"... |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:45 PM
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25. Farrakhan's views are well known |
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Spitzer was about law and order, and his own comments when he prosecuted a prostituiton ring working from Staten Island are going to come back and bite him in the ass.
From the NY Times:
In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.
“”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”
At least with Farrakhan you know what you're getting, with this little adventure you can't be sure with Spitzer!
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:11 PM
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40. Almost as insane as comparing Obama's |
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endorsement of Reagan to Hillary's endorsement of McCain.. almost.
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:18 PM
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43. Obama did NOT accept endorsement from Farrakan. Hello? NT |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:32 PM
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2. How offensive can you get? |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:34 PM
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7. Not as offensive as getting involved in a prostitution ring. |
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:22 PM
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47. I wonder, being involved in a prostitution ring..... |
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would that be considered...sexist?
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:32 PM
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:33 PM
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4. Clinton advisors and prostitutes |
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First Dick Morris sucking their toes ... now what is this with Spitzer?
Unfair, perhaps ... but it is an observation.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:34 PM
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6. If DU would have "The Incredibly Stupid Post Award" ... you'd definitely win |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:35 PM
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9. And yet I'm smart enough to know prostitution rings = BAD. |
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Too bad this Clinton supporter isn't that smart.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:40 PM
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17. Even some smart people post stupid shit. |
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This just came out. I'd wait for her response before I make accusations.
I also wouldn't fault Obama if one of his endorsers did something unethical or illegal. Both have no control over what their supporters do. However, some Obama supporters would use anything to smear Hillary.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:46 PM
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27. Who's faulting Clinton? |
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I'm just wondering if she'll reject and denounce his endorsement?
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:35 PM
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8. She has to say something. Or not. But she better. nt |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:36 PM
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10. That's just crazy talk ... |
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and I'm an Obama supporter.
HRC has about as much to do with Spitzer's personal life as Michelle Obama has to do with the price of tea in China.
If Spitzer was consorting with prostitutes, that's between him and the voters of NY. No more, no less (well, unless charges are brought, which would be stupid, IMHO).
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:36 PM
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11. Well couldn't the same be said about Farrakhan? |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:40 PM
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18. I think the point was... |
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Obama was and is asked to reject and denounce someone who he has no connection to either personally, geographically, or politically.
Will Clinton be asked to do the same to the governer of her state who she knows personally and is politically connected to and who has endorsed her.
Yes, it was a gratuitous, silly question post but it's also not without it's logical comparison.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:47 PM
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29. Of course it's a silly question and by no means am I 100% serious. |
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But I'm glad you get the point. :)
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:52 PM
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33. How do so many people in this thread NOT get it? |
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I'm guessing by the variety of responses that people just are not picking up on what you are referring to, which amazes me.
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:03 PM
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35. Some get it and that's all that counts I guess. |
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:23 PM
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48. Not everything translates well on the web ... |
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what might be easy to convey in person often gets lost on the computer.
I get your point (after reading other posts). But given the mixed bag of slurs and insults that get tossed around here, it's not always easy to see on first glance (and I say that as someone who has tossed around more than my share of barbs at HRC).
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:37 PM
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12. Will Barack denounce and reject Drunken Irishman's endorsement? |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:38 PM
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:40 PM
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16. If she doesn't denounce, reject, AAAND repudiate it |
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Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 01:57 PM by stellanoir
my head may just truly explode whilst I expertly and exquisitely perform spontaneous human combustion with the utmost of penultimate grace and ease.
So there.
Kidding.
No biggie really.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:42 PM
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21. Depends. Is he a superdelegate?????? |
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:07 PM
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36. All governors are superdelegates |
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Of course, if the governor is forced to resign ... I don't know what happens.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:43 PM
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22. We should wait to see what Spitzer has to say about this. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 01:54 PM by Maribelle
But, if indeed he has done something illegal, he should resign. In that case, I would imagine Hillary would want to reject.
However, she had no idea when he endorsed her that he was into anything illegal.
Unlike Obama and his controversial endorsement which he did the Texas two-step around rejecting.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:46 PM
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28. Sex always trumps financial indiscretions right? |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:48 PM
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30. Why should she? I don't see how this has anything to do with HRC. She hasn't done anything wrong in |
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:48 PM
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31. I agree, which is why I see no reason why she made an issue of Farrakhan's endorsement of Obama. |
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:07 PM
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37. Yep, that was stupid, too. Though, Farrakhan's ideas are seen as much more dangerous than |
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Spitzer's wayward weenie. So, I think it did serve Obama well to publicly distance himself from Farrakhan's endorsement. Hillary's reject vs. denounce thing was pure idiocy.
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:49 PM
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Mon Mar-10-08 01:53 PM
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34. Why did she want Obama to denounce and reject Farrakhan's endorsement? |
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:10 PM
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39. Because Farrakhan is a BIGOT, you fucking git. |
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Jesus, how many ignorant replies are you going to make in a single topic? Give it a rest already.
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:32 PM
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54. AND SPITZER BROKE THE LAW! |
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He not only broke the law, he fucked around on his family and embarrassed the entire state of New York.
Let's just sweep that under the rug, eh?
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Mon Mar-10-08 10:03 PM
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55. All of which is not comparable to a racist |
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Thanks for playing, troll.
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:18 PM
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Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 02:22 PM by scard
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:19 PM
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45. DU: Say hello to the politics of hope. |
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:19 PM
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46. I want to know if she'll pardon him n/t |
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:24 PM
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49. Bottom line: Hillary people "NO", Barack people "Hell, YES!" |
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All in all, it's a double standard being applied here. I had a similar thread earlier and learned quickly that Hillary supporters DENOUNCE, RENOUNCE, REJECT, ETC....any statement after-the-fact from a disgraced supporter.
So what is your question again? Did I answer it?
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Mon Mar-10-08 10:04 PM
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56. There is no double standard, you people are as dumb as a fucking post |
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Paying for sex. Antisemitism.
As far apart as two things can possibly be.
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:26 PM
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50. Please! She didn't D&R that racist latina. And this was like a day after |
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she made that scene at the debate. She's a hypocrite!
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Mon Mar-10-08 02:28 PM
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51. This is a ridiculous idea. |
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And I'm a Obama supporter.
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