How about split the delegates in MI 50/50 and split the delegates in FL 55%/45% for Hillary?

[Dawgs]

That way Hillary gets her votes, wins in FL, gets half of Michigan, and we end this controversy.

If you're wondering why I think Hillary supporters should be okay with splitting Michigan, just look at Rasmussen's site. There latest polling shows a 41/41 tie in Michigan. I think Obama could do better here if he has a chance to campaign.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/michigan/election_2008_michigan_democratic_presidential_primary

Adding the pledged delegates from both states will give Hillary a net gain of 19 delegates.

The superdelegates from those states would be allowed to vote as they wish.

[Captain Hilts]

1. No on both. She beat Obama by a 3rd in FL. MI needs a do-over. nt

[fascisthunter]

3. wrong

FL and MI were off limits. Sorry, 50/50

[stray cat]

5. Hard to win where no real election was held - kind of like grading imaginary exams....

[papau]

9. perhaps a 70/30 split in Florida and Mich at 60/40

[Captain Hilts]

11. There's no basis on which to divide the MI delegates in any way. There was no vote. nt

[hedgehog]

2. Wouldn't that be rewarding the Democratic leaders of Michigan and Florida

and Hillary for flaunting the rules they all agreed to with representatives from 48 other states?


How about this for a compromise; seat the elected delegates and make the super delegates from those states stay home!

[totodeinhere]

4. It may well be to Obama's advantage to go ahead and redo Michigan.

A win there might just finish off Clinton for good and if they also redo Florida and Clinton wins Florida then the two states would cancel each other out. That would also in effect be a win for Obama.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

6. re-do how?

Caucus or primary?

Then, who participates? Everyone? Republicans too? or are the Repubs re-doing their primary too?

Any decision favors one candidate over the other. Both will send squadrons of lawyers into MI to fight for their pet scenario.

Keep it simple - just exclude MI from the convention.

[totodeinhere]

7. Actually excluding both Michigan and Florida would be my first choice too.

But I'm just saying to all of the Clinton supporters who think that redoing Michigan and Florida would save Clinton's candidacy that maybe they should not make that assumption. In fact, a redo might actually help Obama.

[Captain Hilts]

12. And a good chunk of the FL voters will vote for McCain in Nov. nt

[Coexist]

21. I disagree - but I'm not going to fight over it.

[papau]

13. True - even a closer loss may prevent Clinton from claiming the popular vote (Incl FL/Mich) win

[peace13]

8. How about we play by the rules for once?

I am tired of this politician playing like a child with our government. If she can't play by the rules now imagine how it would be in she were pres. I don't think we can have two child Presidents in a row. The planet would not survive it.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

10. again Obama got 33% in Fl while Clinton got 50% MI Obama 40% Clinton 55%

Obama told his peeps to vote "undesided" in MI and they did giving him 40%

[papau]

14. vote "undesided" in MI -- TRUE - so split the 40 to O=20 & E=20 & H=60, set FL at 70/30

[Captain Hilts]

15. That does not accurately account for those who stayed home because it was not valid. nt

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

17. True. But, a re-vote (Dem only) will bring out hordes

of republicans to vote for whoever Rush endorses. Again, no accurate accounting.

I don't see a "fair" way to re-do this. Not that both Dem campaigns will agree is "fair".

(again, talking about MI)

[Captain Hilts]

18. Is there any way to keep the R's out? nt

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

19. Based on the January primary,

it would be administratively simple to exclude any who turned in a Republican ballot. When I picked up the ballot, I had to request the ballot for the party I wanted. So that much is on record, I believe.

Would it be legally simple? I don't know. Can we legally access the January records?

The Clinton camp might not want them excluded, because Rush told the repubs to vote for Clinton. It's to her advantage to let Repubs vote.

In the end, I'd be afraid that the re-do would be biased, favoring whoever sent the best lawyers to MI.

[Coexist]

16. fine whatever - just make it stop.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

20. Stop? There is no "Stop"

:rofl:

maybe in late December, when all the lawyers go home for Christmas.

[olshak]

22. No...

No do-overs...

Michigan and Florida made poor decisions; let them live with the consequences.

Split the delegates 50/50 between the two campaigns; both candidates agreed not to campaign there. Both knew that the states were subject to party sanctions... there should be no bickering now about how the votes were cast if at the time everyone knew they would not count.

Let the state parties be happy that their delegates are being included at all.