Hillary's weird religion. Tied to death squad members, former NAZI's and

[John Q. Citizen]

right wing war mongers, I'd take Obama's church over Hill's bizarre 'partners in Christ' any day

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html
snip

When Clinton first came to Washington in 1993, one of her first steps was to join a Bible study group. For the next eight years, she regularly met with a Christian "cell" whose members included Susan Baker, wife of Bush consigliere James Baker; Joanne Kemp, wife of conservative icon Jack Kemp; Eileen Bakke, wife of Dennis Bakke, a leader in the anti-union Christian management movement; and Grace Nelson, the wife of Senator Bill Nelson, a conservative Florida Democrat.


snip
Coe's friends include former Attorney General John Ashcroft, Reaganite Edwin Meese III, and ultraconservative Rep. Joe Pitts (R-Pa.). Under Coe's guidance, Meese has hosted weekly prayer breakfasts for politicians, businesspeople, and diplomats, and Pitts rose from obscurity to head the House Values Action Team, an off-the-record network of religious right groups and members of Congress created by Tom DeLay. The corresponding Senate Values Action Team is guided by another Coe protégé, Brownback, who also claims to have recruited King Abdullah of Jordan into a regular study of Jesus' teachings.

The Fellowship's long-term goal is "a leadership led by God—leaders of all levels of society who direct projects as they are led by the spirit." According to the Fellowship's archives, the spirit has in the past led its members in Congress to increase U.S. support for the Duvalier regime in Haiti and the Park dictatorship in South Korea. The Fellowship's God-led men have also included General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators. Clinton, says Schenck, has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance.

[Dogmudgeon]

1. And I met Kevin Bacon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Degrees_of_Kevin_Bacon">So I'm probably closer to someone evil than you think. And so are you.

--p!

[John Q. Citizen]

2. Anything except discuss the issue, eh? Diversion isn't refutation, my friend.

[Voice for Peace]

4. Aaaagh Hillary belongs to a religious cult cell?

LOL

[kid a]

28. K&R

[paulk]

5. this issue was discussed extensively and debunked as

nonsense several months ago.

But now that Obama is in a little trouble, it's time to drag it out again, I suppose.

[LostinVA]

9. At least the third time today

[John Q. Citizen]

10. Debunked? Where? You can walk into Obama's church any Sunday, You can't get into Hillary's cult.

It's for members only.

[catgirl]

30. This was never debunked

and Mother Jones is very thorough in their research.

[merh]

22. Have you discussed the issues as they relate to Hillary's "faith"

and her spiritual leaders?

Just wondering if what you consider an issue is an issue for the person you support?

[cliffordu]

3. That's nothing,

My sister FUCKED Kevin Bacon. She still smells like a pork chop.

[easy_b94]

6. I wish i had a tomato

[sudopod]

7. </ thread > nt

[roguevalley]

32. if you can mock this and disclaim it and ignore it, then you are

treading on hypocracy if you find Wright offensive. Wright is one idiot in a church with about as much power to do anything about the world as you and I. People in this rednecked cabal drive the world we live in. if that doesn't bother you, then there is no hope anywhere.

Fuck this group. Fuck Wright. Everyone of the 'values' idiots out there need to examine their consciences. If they can find them.

[LostinVA]

8. Hillary Clinton is a long-time member of the UMC

And, as long as elected officials don't legislate their beliefs or are hypocrites about certain issues, I don't give a damn what their religious background is.

[NorthernSpy]

11. mm-hmmm, she is a Methodist, as far as I know...

I'm taking her at her word on that.

[John Q. Citizen]

12. Did you read the article? It isn't the UMC that the Hill people put out for public consumption.

It's a cell of members only power people who have some very odd and dangerous beliefs and records

[LostinVA]

13. You do know this is very old news and not proven, right?

Yes, right.

Senator Clinton is a Methodist.

[John Q. Citizen]

15. Got a link to Hillary denying she's a memebr of that group? Thanks!

[LostinVA]

17. When did you stop beating your wife?

I should have put you and your divisive ass on Ignore long ago.

Ciao.

[John Q. Citizen]

19. You can't debunk it can you? You say it's debunked and it's just you talking.

I don't have anybody on ignore.

But I'm not afraid of hearing information either, even crap information.

Ignore is for people who are unable to cope with stuff they can't debunk.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

14. homosexuality is "incompatible with Christian teaching." --UMC

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_2000_June_20/ai_62741771

[LostinVA]

16. Nice try -- but not really correct

[John Q. Citizen]

18. Got a link? or does your saying stuff magically make it so?

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

20. Here's the quote STRAIGHT OFF their website:

"The United Methodist Church does not condone the practice of homosexuality and considers this practice incompatible with Christian teaching."

Why are you defending them against their own doctrine?


http://archives.umc.org/interior.asp?ptid=1&mid=1728

[Texas Hill Country]

21. really... is that why she is active with the HRC and gay advocacy?

[Drachasor]

23. I believe the point is that just because your church says crazy things, you don't have to believe it

Which applies just as well to Obama and his church.

[AnarchoFreeThinker]

24. bingo

[Texas Hill Country]

26. There is a distinct difference... it is the fundamentals of those beliefs that...

seperate Wright's church from other AA churches that teach self respect and reliance.

Also, Wright IS the church... he is THE preacher... it is not a larger organization like the methodist church.

Obama also chose this guy to be a central and pivotal part of his life.

[John Q. Citizen]

27. No, that's incorrect. If you want to assert that, please provide a link. Yesterday

a poster put up information about the United Church of Christ.

They are a wisespread denomination with millions of members nationwide.

So please post a link to substanciate your claim, or disavow your claim. Thank you.

[anonymous171]

25. Guilt by Association!

[NorthernSpy]

29. secret death squad church!

Yeah -- always wanted to join one of those, never knew where to find one.

[John Q. Citizen]

31. I don't believe they let the hoi poloi join, NS, you gotta be a power player to get in that cult.

[autorank]

33. You've got my vote John Q Citizen. She volunteered to be with these crazies

I like the Atlantic Article too.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200611/green-hillary

She's as nutty as these people. She's a threat to the stability of this country.