theboss
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:32 PM
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"No Viet Cong ever called me Nigger" - Muhammad Ali, Nation of Islam Minister, 1966 |
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Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 03:32 PM by theboss
How racist. How inflammatory. But what would you expect from a black separatist.
We should take away his Presidential Medal of Freedom.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:34 PM
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1. Scary angry Black man of his day in mainstream America, |
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but to progressives, he was a hero. I don't know anymore though. :(
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:35 PM
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2. To be a progressive hero, you apparently can't speak of race in a truthful manner |
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Everything is fine. We are all brothers.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:40 PM
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I grew throughouht Ali's career, I went from being a liberal kid in the South that didn't understand what he was saying. I decried racism but didn't have really any contacts with Afro Americans. As I got older,read, watched the news, and questioned everything, I just began to realize the differences in growing up black and white in America. Ali is a national treasure, and what Rev. Wright said about God Damning injustice in America is true.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:42 PM
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4. Get the quote right. He didn't say "God damn the injustice in America" |
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He said "God Damn America." There's a difference, and as Obama proclaims, WORDS MATTER.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:44 PM
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That was what he was saying God should Damn America for.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:47 PM
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9. what else did Wright say? Hmmm? He didn't JUST say "God Damn America" and you're a liar |
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by omitting the rest of the quote.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:43 PM
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5. Obama should reject and denouce him |
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Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 03:48 PM by malletgirl02
:sarcasm:
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:44 PM
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8. He already did. Is that not good enough for you? |
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Some people won't be happy no matter what he does.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:47 PM
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10. When did he denounce Ali? Because that would piss me off |
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You don't put down The Champ.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:53 PM
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My original post was sarcastic referring to Ali, but I didn't use a sarcasm icon. I think the poster got confused and thought I talking and thought i was talking about Wright.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:47 PM
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Sorry it was sarcasm, I was referring to the OP's post about Ali. I will edit my most with a sarcasm icon
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:44 PM
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6. Ali said it in justification of his refusal to go KILL THEM. |
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It was shocking at the time, but nowhere near as shocking and viscerally repulsive as what Wright said.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:48 PM
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12. Are you serious? The most famous man in America called the US a racist state and refused to serve |
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And somehow that is more repulsive than a little-known minister saying...whatever he said.
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Fri Mar-14-08 03:49 PM
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13. you're not a Democrat if you think what Wright said was 'repulsive'. He's politically incorrect |
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but his words were a simple rephrasing of the simple term BLOWBACK.
so either you are not a Democrat or you are a very uniformed person if the MEANING of what Wright said bothers you.
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Fri Mar-14-08 04:00 PM
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15. Yes, I know the meaning of blowback. |
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If you have to explain Wright's words to Middle America, you've already lost.
And I don't condemn America, e.g., for George Bush's crimes, I condemn HIM.
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Fri Mar-14-08 04:56 PM
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16. America's crimes go over generations and involve both parties |
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It's not like we just started being a bully.
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Fri Mar-14-08 04:58 PM
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17. Yeah, that's also a winning political argument. |
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Fri Mar-14-08 05:33 PM
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21. "If you have to explain Wright's words to Middle America, you've already lost" - so let's just all |
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wallow in ignorance, never trying to move forward, never trying to "explain" anything to "Middle America" never bothering do better than we are because if we do, we'll "lose Middle America."
Let's just stay right where we are.
Oh, by the way, Jeremaiah Wright is IN Middle America. And the black folk who agree with him - or at least those of us who understand where he is coming from - also ARE Middle America. We're just as American and just as entitled to our point of view as anyone else who lives in "Middle America."
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Fri Mar-14-08 05:52 PM
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People are treating the pastor and his church like 'The Other' here, and it's wrong.
But I think that's more out of a desire to score cheap political points than from genuine ignorance. At least I hope so.
- as
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Sat Mar-15-08 08:14 AM
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25. Of course you're entitled. |
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But that doesn't win elections.
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Fri Mar-14-08 05:02 PM
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18. I thought about that, too, theboss. Good eye. |
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Fri Mar-14-08 05:23 PM
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19. Fucking A! Muhammed Ali's the man! |
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Fri Mar-14-08 05:27 PM
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20. Well....I guess if we have to live through the 1960's again...then BRING IT ON! |
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So many here don't understand why Mainstream America Elected Reaga because they were TIRED...worn out...and knew the Government as Against them...(that's our AMERICAN government) and so they voted for Reagan...for peace of mind.
We are now going down that road again. Will OBAMA bring PEACE TO US after these years of STRIFE? Bush/Cheny and the latter down fall of Clinton II's Administration filled with RANCOR/LAWSUITS and his SPITZER Behavior?
What WILL OBAMA DO FOR US? :shrug: Are we all YEARNING for the New REAGAN?
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Fri Mar-14-08 05:48 PM
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Many here do understand why Reagan got in - because he fucking lied to the American people and the October Surprise that George Bush Senior, the fucking traitor, pulled in Iran in 1980.
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Fri Mar-14-08 07:51 PM
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24. They elected Reagan because Carter was a poor president |
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