Neshanic
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:02 PM
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The only thing that will save Obama now is who he picks for VP. |
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I'm not talking about Hillary. Who could bring this together with him and help this clusterfuck that Obama has created?
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:03 PM
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1. What is this clusterfuck you claim Obama created? nt |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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I wasn't just the minister....the E N T I R E congregation was into all that racist rhetoric being |
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spewed in a C h u r c h. The entire lot of them were cheering, dancing, changing and agreeing. You can be sure it wasn't the first time either. What did bho and michelle listen to for t w e n t y years without stopping it?
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:13 PM
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17. Racist Rhetoric? Is That A New Euphemism For Truth? |
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Why do you hate the truth?
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:16 PM
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21. In a c h u r c h? You don't say. How awful! All those people should |
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have sat straight up with hands folded in their laps; is that how it's done in your church? Is that what you are actually griping about? Or is it the message that Wright tries to convey? Read this; just because things might be done differently in Obama's church than yours doesn't make them wrong. If you don't know that, no one can help you. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5091981&mesg_id=5091981Here's another one to read to further your edumacation: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x345467
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:22 PM
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All those awful Negroes. The entire lot of them. Cheering, dancing, changing and agreeing. :eyes:
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:32 PM
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39. They had to have agreed with him or they |
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would have walked out on the first racist tirade. This preacher-gate has blown the whole cover off of the Obama campaign. It shows the country how Obama REALLY feels. He would be a disaster for our country.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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15. The bomb-throwing, terrorist Jeremiah Wright? |
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The ex-Marine African-American who DARES to speak the truth about The USA's missteps? OMG! What a "clusterfuck!"
The OP is... um, unbalanced?;)
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:04 PM
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2. Hagee... balanced ticket |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:04 PM
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3. You're right that Hillary is not a possibility. |
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But Obama will defeat McCain regardless of the VP. However, a stellar VP will help usher in a new working Majority.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:05 PM
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6. Maybe he can be his own VP. Delusion reigns supreme as usual. |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:04 PM
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4. *shrug* nobody can help |
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Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 04:05 PM by quinnox
I said Wes Clark when this was brought up in the past but that was before Clark hammered him and said he isn't ready to be president.
I forgot about how much character and honor that Clark has, he says it like it is and is a blunt guy.
Obama's VP won't be enough to fill all the holes in his resume.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:09 PM
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I think I know who Obama will pick, and it will be an excellent choice.
Clark has not always been an honorable guy - according to High Shelton who knew him well. Clark owes two stars to Clinton.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:23 PM
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28. Clark lost all his honor when he started supporting the warmonger hillary. n/t |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:51 PM
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41. That's how I feel about it. |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:04 PM
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:06 PM
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7. I think Obama should make a souless munster his VP |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:06 PM
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8. this clusterfuck that Obama has created |
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This "clusterfuck" is a Republican slime effort.
The fact that so many Democrats are stupid enough to fall for it tells me that parts of our own party are no better than the Republicans they claim to hate.
Its too early for Obama to announce a VP, as it would be seen as a slight to those Democrats (see above) who support Clinton.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:08 PM
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9. Yes, those guys, they started a church twenty years ago, now is the payoff! |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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13. See, you're an example of the type of Democrat I was talking about |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:16 PM
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20. I's sorry, I don't religiously follow your posts, so tell me what kind am I? |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:24 PM
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32. so tell me what kind am I? |
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The kind of Democrat who salivates at the notion of destroying another Democrat to further your own candidate.
One who believes that hiding behind sarcasm covers your real goals.
Thats the condensed version.
The full version would compare and contrast your political beliefs to the Republicans, and would examine how little difference there is between you and them in an era of Karl Rove.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:27 PM
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36. Uh, I officially changed my vote from Hillary to Obama. You know |
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the inevetability of it all.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:09 PM
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10. Whoa! Clusterfuck is right. Not sure if even a VP pick could save him at this |
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point in time. I think he needs to save himself first.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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14. Obama will save himself. |
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Don't know who is going to save Clinton - because there is far worse on them.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:10 PM
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12. I'd be happy with Wes Clark OR John Edwards |
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I'm fairly certain either man would jump at the chance to run on the ticket with O, even though one ran against him, and the other blasted him as part of the Hillary campaign. Either man would be a stellar partner for a race.
On the other hand, where's Oprah? Imagine an Obama/Oprah ticket!
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:24 PM
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30. oh please!! neither one of those! |
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One's a shillbot and the other is a phony hedge fund manager.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:13 PM
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16. I don't think Obama has created a clusterfuck, but think Barbara Boxer would be an excellent VP |
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"Clusterfucks" aside, it seems to me that Obama, already at this point, has organized one of the most remarkable presidential campaigns of modern political history. As a first term Senator with no discernible political base outside of Illinois, he managed to take on the political apparatus of a former president among others. I myself thought that Tsunami Tuesday would either sink him or nearly sink him -- and complained about its front-loading accordingly, prior to Feb 5. However, Obama did SPECTACULARLY then under the circumstances, and went on to sweep states across the country before the Clinton campaign managed to win some key victories in Ohio and (popular vote) Texas. He looks good in almost all the remaining nomination contests other than PA.
So what is the 'clusterfuck' that Obama has created? HRC is throwing the kitchen sink at him and he has responded so far pretty well. Many DUers seem to be so harsh on him as to be self-parodying (for example the plethora of McClurkin threads lambasting him for weeks and weeks and even months afterwords, garnering huge numbers of recs etc.).
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:14 PM
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I'd be proud to vote for a woman like Boxer.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:52 PM
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:15 PM
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19. What about Sam Nunn? That would clean things up a bit. If he could be persuaded. |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:18 PM
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22. Obama has created WHAT clusterfuck, please enlighten me |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:20 PM
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:25 PM
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34. No, I don't know, stop wasting my time, meet my ignore list |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:28 PM
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37. Don't you mean iggied? It's cuter. At least I think so. |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:20 PM
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24. While I don't agree with the needing to be saved part |
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Gov Sebelius is the best choice for VP.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:21 PM
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25. I think that's a bit dramatic, considering we're still in this news cycle... |
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Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 04:22 PM by ALiberalSailor
...if in 2 weeks this issue is still being pushed, I might become concerned at that point. However, I do think he should help this "out" and start name dropping for VP and other cabinet positions.
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:22 PM
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26. i seriously don't think Obama needs saving |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:24 PM
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31. It just so sad. Really. Oh God help us. |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:24 PM
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29. Clusterfuck Obama created? |
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:12 PM
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44. That was My reaction. n/t |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:25 PM
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33. Obama hasn't created anything. The media has. |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:26 PM
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35. you mean Hillary Clusterfuck Clinton? n/t |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:30 PM
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38. Wow, Hillary is a lousy candidate, she can't even win with a "clusterfuck" handed to her. |
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Sat Mar-15-08 04:50 PM
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40. he hasn't gotten the nomination yet |
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:04 PM
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43. "clusterfuck that Obama has created"..are you freakin kidding me? |
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You just earned my ignore of you.
Sorry, bye bye.
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Sat Mar-15-08 05:14 PM
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45. So just who exactly should he pick then? Who has the power to save him? |
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I honestly can't believe everyone's making such a big deal about this. I happen to think it's good to get everything out there, deal with it and move on. It will ultimately make Obama a much better candidate.
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Sat Mar-15-08 07:26 PM
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46. After watching Tiger Woods come from behind today and be a real |
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contender...I mean, they have so much in common, they're both focused, very appealing, smart..and well, just plain cute. (sarcastic), just golfed out..
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