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Mon Mar-17-08 10:55 AM
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I dont see what was so bad about what Rev Wright said. |
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He was obviously coming from a place of injustice and inequality. He chose some poor words. People exaggerate to make a point. The United States isnt perfect, fucking far from it. Is it wrong to criticize that? We all know what he was talking about behind his choice of words.
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Mon Mar-17-08 10:58 AM
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1. So are you saying Obama should have defended him? |
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I understand there's confusion in the ranks. Obama rejected those words of his, and actually scrubbed Wright from his web site. Some of his supporters are defending those words, and Wright. So, who's "right"? I can't keep up.
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:20 AM
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13. Obama did exactly the right thing - he denounced the words, not the man. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 11:23 AM by backscatter712
Wright's a perfectly decent person.
Obama rejected and denounced the hurtful words Wright said in that sermon. It's just those words that needed to be spoken up against. Not Wright, and not the real message Wright's trying to send, that's now being drowned by swiftboating.
I believe that Wright speaks truth - there's a huge amount of injustice in this country, perpetuated in large part by rich white people upon the rest of us, and especially upon the black community. It's just that those particular words that Wright used that day aren't a good way to voice the well-deserved outrage that should be said about the way things are in this country.
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Mon Mar-17-08 10:59 AM
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2. GEE---BO just SCRUBBED his website of Wright- Now why?? |
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:37 AM
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14. Personal assults are not allowed. |
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Prolly so he dosent have to hear from mainstream fools like yourself
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:01 AM
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3. It was stupid for Barack to stay in that church 20 years |
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knowing he was going to run for POTUS For the simple fact that republicans will burry him with it. It shows poor political judgement. Oprah had the sense to leave years ago.
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:03 AM
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10. Which lends to his statements that he didn't know ALL of the inflamatory sermons Wright did. People |
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:39 AM
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15. He said he knew of the inflammatory comments when he decided to run--yet he |
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did nothing!--until now.
Very poor judgment on his part. did you see the new Rass. poll in DU--take a look.
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Mon Mar-17-08 12:42 PM
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18. as opposed to all the stuff |
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the republics will bury HRC with?
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:01 AM
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5. Hubby and I are in agreement. We think angry black men are not allowed to speak truth |
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Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 11:02 AM by mnhtnbb
in this country. Look what happened to Dean and Edwards--angry white men. For God's sake, with the exception of the AIDS comment, I think Wright was correct.
I'm not an Obama fan to begin with, and he would have gained in my estimation if he had taken the truth of what Wright said and supported it. The fact that he's dumping Wright instead contributes to my sense that he's just another politician--not St. Obama.
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:02 AM
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6. You're in the 8% that have a favorable view of Reverend Wright. |
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Just 8% Have Favorable Opinion of Pastor Jeremiah Wright Pastor Jeremiah Wright, who has become part of the national political dialogue in recent days, is viewed favorably by 8% of voters nationwide. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 58% have an unfavorable view of the Pastor whose controversial comments have created new challenges for Barack Obama’s Presidential campaign. http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/people2/just_8_have_favorable_opinion_of_pastor_jeremiah_wright
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:13 AM
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11. Im proud to be in the 8% |
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But as Mark Thomas said on the radio last week, "People aren't ready to hear it yet."
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:02 AM
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7. He Should Have Said It "Nicer" |
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like an evangelical white church pastor does.
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:02 AM
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8. People don't like the WAY it was said...Wright vs. Rod Palsley Wright is a saint |
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:03 AM
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9. Some things weren't so bad, others were pretty bad. |
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Choosing to make his comments about 9/11 while the ruins were still smoking was callous. Criticizing Bill Clinton about his policies and they effected the AA community is fine, but saying that he screwed black people like he screwed Monica is just crass and is a piss poor way of framing it. His comments about Hollowell sucked and so did his remarks about Hillary. She may never have been called a n***er but she sure has been called a c**t. And sorry, that's not any better.
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:46 AM
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re 9/11, he was speaking about blowback. I thought the same things at the time, that very same fucking day, but never said a thing because no one here or anywhere else had seemed to agree with that thought. I am as guilty as he, as are a few dozen other humans out there who thought the same verboten things. Smoking ruins or not, some people are more tactful than others. Some preachers are paid according to their lack of tact. It would have never been news except that Obama is now running. Are we all truly satisfied now that all was on the up 'n' up vis a vis the 9/11 stuff?
As to the rest: well i'm tempted to call Hil'n'Bill a few choice things, but I will never utter them in public.
Cali, you've freaked many partisans out over the last few months. I am gratified that you are someone whose insights were informative and important enough to respond to, even if I disagreed. I agree as much as I disagree and Thank you.
PS: I am from IL, and my sister has been telling me all about Obama since he was their legislator. It is no surprise to me that he is running for this post. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He makes no proclamation on high about what he intends to do: he tends to look at all sides and attempt to find common ground. I think that is what we all desire in a pres.
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:18 AM
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12. Wright, like many with similar preaching styles, are masters of hyperbole |
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that doesn't go over well with lots of people. That is the real issue. Seen a few things where African-Americans are offended that others are offended by Wright. Others are claiming yet another use of the race card. I am not sure I care. I tend to think it was more her church than his.
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Mon Mar-17-08 11:46 AM
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17. It's not what he said...It's how he said it... |
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Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 11:47 AM by Jeff In Milwaukee
You see, America likes its negroes to be smiling and deferential to white authority. So while what Rev. Wright said was technically correct, he said it in a way that was far too uppity to his white masters.
Advice to Black America: Keep grinning and shuffling, lest your betters take offense.
P.S. :sarcasm:
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