This will probably sink but I think it bears saying

[roguevalley]

Everyone is saying that Obama is responsible for his preacher's sermons. He was supposed to do something about it. If that is so, we are missing the gorilla in the room.

We all watched GWBush do what he and his cabal did. We watched him trash the world, taint everything that is holy to our country and kill and harm millions. The world is falling on its face because of him.

We sat in our living rooms and watched. Some protested, most voted against him and still nothing changed. It didn't change because for the most of us, it wasn't important enough to us apparently to risk anything. Not relationships, not standing in the community, not our freedom or reputation. The small percentage of people who ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING is so tiny as to be invisible. We all talk alot but it doesn't count because nothing changed.

We sat in our houses and argued on the internet and nothing changed. We bitched and moaned and never truly stepped out of our comfort zone to stop him from doing WHAT WE ALL, EVERYONE OF US, WATCHED HIM DO.

Now we say Obama should have done something. He should have stepped out of his comfort zone and DONE SOMETHING!

Should we all. Had we truly brought this country to a halt, had we rioted if necessary to get the counts in elections right, had we picketed our representatives UNTIL THEY OBEYED US, things might have been different. People wouldn't be dead and maimed, our honor would be intact, all would be better in this world. If we had really acted on our beliefs and honor, we could have made it different.

But we didn't, did we. How can we pretend that Obama did something less than what we would do when we didn't do it either and the stakes were way higher?

We have truly lost our minds.

[MonkeyFunk]

1. I don't think anybody's saying

Obama is responsible for his pastor's sermons.

Obama is responsible for supporting this guy for 20 years.

[roguevalley]

4. and we are responsible for 'supporting' GWB for eight because

we didn't do anything about what happened. we watched, we bitched. we know what he did and we did nothing. not much different in my mind.

[MonkeyFunk]

5. No

I don't have a 20 year friendship with GWB. I never voted for him, and I opposed him the whole way. I never sent him money. I didn't ask him to perform my wedding ceremony and baptize my children.

But other than that, your point is spot-on. :eyes:

[stillcool]

7. I think the problem is

that many are willing to judge this man and his entire life on excerpts from a sermon he gave. All for political gain. I don't think it's going to work. I think there are more of us than there are of them.

[XemaSab]

2. K&R

:thumbsup:

[BuyingThyme]

3. I did.

Do.

[Scurrilous]

6. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Beaverhausen]

8. AFAIK- none of us calls Bush our spiritual advisor or mentor

No one says Obama is responsible for Wrights sermons.