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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:35 PM Original message |
Paul Krugman on "Tearing down Howard Dean" |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. My favorite line. . .Clark may be more electable!!! |
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WillyBrandt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Krugman is the King |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Listen to Krugman he knows what he is talking about. . .LOL |
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caledesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
28. Agree. Krugman is "da man." nt |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
91. Were Clark the frontrunner... |
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Raya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
53. Worked for Jerry Brown '92. Know "Take Country Back" Didn't Come From Dean |
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LittleDannySlowhorse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:51 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Do you still feel that way |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 05:54 AM Response to Reply #53 |
67. Oakland mayor Jerry Brown stumped for Arnie. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #67 |
84. Seriously? |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. It was a toss up due to paragraph # constraints... |
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WillyBrandt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I think it's clear he respects both of them |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. I don't. n/t |
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MIMStigator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
35. I liked when he said Clark was the most electable too |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 01:12 AM Response to Reply #1 |
61. The word "possible" means that it's not a clear fact that Clark is more |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. Ouch - that hit Kerry and Gephardt right between the eyes! |
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dodgerartful (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Krugman has a tale there |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. How right he is |
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LuminousX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Dean's remarks |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 02:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
64. Earn your trust and faith? |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 05:59 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. By always saying what needs to be said while almost everyone else |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 08:42 AM Response to Reply #64 |
77. Kerry, Gephardt, and Lieberman set the bar lower n/t |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Yep, Krugman went yard. n/t |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
7. Already emailed Krugman to thank him for a perfect essay. |
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giantrobot_2000 (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
10. ... |
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Jerseycoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm just gonna sit back |
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chookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
14. Krugman really nailed it, yet again |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Excellent analysis... |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. I didn't care the "vanity" reference to Nader in the first sentence. |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Good point, I noticed it and thought it unfair. |
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LittleDannySlowhorse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 01:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
57. Krugman was never the darling of the left |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:08 AM Response to Reply #57 |
81. Good point. Krugman is a slightly left of center moderate |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
86. There can be a cost |
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Clark4VotingRights (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-04 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
17. Sounds like Krugman, the Great Man, approves of Dean and Clark |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
18. Maybe Krugman should replace McAuliffe |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 01:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
58. Great minds, Jack |
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Clark4VotingRights (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
20. The actual title was "Who's Nader Now?" |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
21. I've been saying this since 1996 and the Contract on America |
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chookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
48. You're right. It's kinda a moot point |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:47 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I really like this strategy... |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
22. that's fine |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
23. Krugman's thought process: |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. That's fine. Discussing issues is great. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
24. Krugman forgets a few minor details such as no vote has been cast yet... |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. The Krugman demonizing process begins |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 06:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
69. Yes, Krugman is pure evil. |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
90. Have you seen more recent polls |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
26. he makes some good ponts and some bad ones |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Really? |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:47 AM Response to Reply #30 |
51. here's a point Krugman got from me |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Um...are you a mainstream, nationally syndicated columnist? |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:59 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. the candidates have made that point |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
92. Krugman reads your posts? (n/t) |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I agree. While I'm no fan of Lieberman, |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Except... Kerry wrong. Dean didn't support Biden-Lugar |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Dean DID support the Biden-Lugar amendment |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 08:54 AM Response to Reply #45 |
79. There is no Dean quote in the Oliphant piece |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:23 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. No real meaning? BWA-HA-HA |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:33 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. fine with me |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 06:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
70. It's not that all the non-Dean candidates are spoilers. It's that pro-Bush |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
29. Great article |
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MIMStigator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
33. Favorite line, "it would be nice if Mr. Dean were a decorated war hero" |
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Hep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 08:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
75. It would be nice if I had a pony. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:39 AM Response to Reply #75 |
85. Your Having A Pony Would Have No Effect On Election 2004 |
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Hep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #85 |
89. How do you know? |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #33 |
94. it would be nice |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
34. Paul Krugman is my favorite pundit |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Krugman doesn't say they should drop out, just that they |
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MIMStigator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:22 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. he called Clark more electable but didn't say Dean is un-electable |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:25 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. actually he called Clark |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:26 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Krugman included the word "possible" in relation to Clark... |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:35 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. he implies it in the last sentence |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 06:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
71. Of course you are. Because he didn't say that, and because you know that |
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cindyw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
46. What is Krugman referring to in regards to Kerry? |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Kerry called Dean's judgement |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. "pretty much called Dean unfit" |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:45 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Krugman's journalistic laziness is the feature in the article |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 01:26 AM Response to Reply #50 |
62. Comparing Paul Krugman to a "Newsmax shill"? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 02:52 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Krugman's playing the "Don't Attack Dean" card...it's so last year |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:53 AM Response to Reply #62 |
93. And the answer is... |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 06:12 AM Response to Reply #50 |
72. Krugman is pure evil. Did you know he eats babies, just like Dean? (nt) |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #72 |
87. Of Course, NOONE Said Krugman Eats Babies |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:05 AM Response to Reply #50 |
80. No, you seem to have negelected reading it |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
59. Glad you like it. I am sure you saw this paragraph too: |
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dajabr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 01:08 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Yes I did... |
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Polemonium (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
65. Krugman as usual puts it better than I would have |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
66. Nope |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 06:14 AM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Marshall is obviously a Clark supporter. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #73 |
88. Prove Josh Is A Clark Supporter |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
74. Krugman gives Dean a pass for oft repeated derisive remarks... |
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Hep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
76. Nice! |
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demsrule1 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 08:46 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. What we need to do as a party |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:17 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. (Hijacking thread for a sec.) |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #78 |
99. Hi demsrule1!! |
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demsrule1 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Thanksnewyawker99! |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
83. The article's ok, as another effort |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
95. Anyone who wants to vilify Krugman is probably in denial |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
96. Kirugman does it again |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
97. Villify? Why? He says Clark has a better chance of winning! Paul is right |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-04 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
98. Your prediction was correct |
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