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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:46 PM
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Obama-gate is a weekend story?
Guess that idea is shot to hell. He'd better say something more than hope & change tomorrow, this story does'nt have legs, it has wheels.:nopity:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:48 PM
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1. The only place I've heard anyone taking it seriously is on DU
from a couple of select dopes.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:50 PM
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3. Just watched 1 hour on it on evening news.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:52 PM
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6. one hour? are you watching fox - for real.
I watched every channel (cable and network) it got a few mentions on about 1/2 the shows I watched.

You LIE!!!

=)
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:58 PM
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14. yea...me too... it's real ... the only way out of it I see...
is if Obama can deliver an "I have a dream" speech tomorrow.... that shifts the dialogue.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:17 PM
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22. Which news were you watching?
I've watched news all night and you're either lying or somehwere outside of GA.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:50 AM
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50. Wolsh - I'm too old to bother lying
Fox news.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:49 PM
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27. I'm guessing you don't watch TV.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:49 PM
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2. Obama-Gate? LOL!
I've never said it was a weekend story. However, I don't think the Wright thing will do in Obama. Polls don't really reflect that. It's little hilly that you need the violins for, dearie. And the fork. Stick it in her. She's done. Over. Finished. So sorry for you hillybots. Not.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:51 PM
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5. There you go again. Hillbots.
Let's all grow-up.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:52 PM
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7. Tell it to the OP
if you're not being hypocritical. It was taunting flamebait. Funny you seem just fine with that.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:53 PM
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8. my 11 yr old exaggerates too! (1 hour) ha!
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 08:55 PM by asSEENonTV
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:02 PM
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16. Spank your 11 yr. old.
Between 2 programs I watched 1 hour total on it.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:55 PM
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9. Hilbots, how sweet
And you Oompas realize that this did hurt him, keep a close eye on Pennsylvania.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 03:26 AM
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57. Obama-gate. What is that all about.
Are these Hillary supporters serious???
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:51 PM
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4. according to my calculations
Hillary is negative 14-15 delegates since the story broke.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:01 PM
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34. By the O-supporter "calculations" he should have about 73,000 delegates by now.
He should be President of the Universe!
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:55 PM
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10. Of course fox is for women's rights. Got the lovely coultar who has ridculed us for years very heart
heartwarmingTV.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:57 PM
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11. Even NPR was forced to cover it this morning
They had to diss Hillary too, but they reported it.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:57 PM
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13. It was just on MSNBC
with the little bright eye attorney who also seems to carry water for Obamanites.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:01 PM
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15. We know who carries your water
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:08 PM
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18. I hate that prick!
Please...I guess you work for Bush, huh?
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:10 PM
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19. Olberbama is talking about it now
so there you go...you guys were hoping this was a weekend story. Surprise.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:57 PM
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12. Actually it's her supporters that are shot to hell
Hillary should be ashamed to be represented by worthless people such as yourself. Nothing better to do than troll and act like a 3 year old retard?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:04 PM
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17. Retard?
I feel the love.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:12 PM
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20. In reference to RememberWellstone certainly
which is exactly he this person is acting with a topic like this.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:20 PM
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24. The proper term is "douchenozzle"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:15 PM
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:20 PM
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23. Not very progressive to label people as retards.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:20 PM
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25. Yeah we're quakin in our little booties...
We're afraid that you guys might add BillO to your stable of Hillary supporters. :rofl:
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 09:32 PM
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26. not wheels, flat tires
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:17 PM
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28. Wellstone would be ashame of you for making an issue of Obama's preacher
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:07 PM
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35. How dare you presume to speak for the deceased? You have no right.
The OP does not make the egotistic presumption you do with their name, merely invites us to remember a great person.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:12 PM
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36. It doesn't take a brainsurgeon or a psychic to realize Wellstone would be turned off by this kind of
petty politics
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:42 PM
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40. Or a rocket scientist to see that you are talking out of your ass from a partisan POV.
And that you don't have a right to speak for the dead.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:57 PM
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47. I'm consistent on this, I was disgusted with the whole "clinton defended rapist" thing as well
I'd rather all the focus be taken off these so-called scandals and put on the issues.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:14 AM
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49. speaking for the dead? you mean like Hillary did with Ann Richards?
she released that commercial implying that Richards would support her even after being asked specifically by two of Richards' sons not to do so. The Clinton response was "Will you sue us if we do?"
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:24 PM
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29. Celebrating the idea of a solid dem being taken down by racism in America?
Sickening. What happened to the democratic party that I knew?
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:12 PM
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37. You mean the racism of his pastor and his poor judgement for sitting there for 20 years?
I found it sickening too.
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:41 PM
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39. No, what's sickening....
....is the obvious glee that you have over the idea that Obama could be taken down because of things his black pastor said to his black congregation, stemming from the great pain that he and his generation endured in the still separatist environment of the 60s. The idea that a strong politician who has the support of millions of democrats could be taken down by something like the words his pastor said is downright appalling, and if it happens, it's an indictment on our country.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:54 PM
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46. That's where you're wrong. I have no glee, and it's not "could be" it's WILL.
I have two daughters without insurance who could face death or at the very least financial ruin under a McCain presidency if they get seriously ill or have an accident, even a small one. I fight for them.

Obama WILL NOT BE elected president of the United States. He fucked himself by staying in a church with a radical batshit crazy preacher and a racist charter for TWENTY YEARS. You don't have a mentor without having some clue what that mentor is about. He knew Wright was unseemly and that is WHY Obama dis-invited him to speak when he announced for president. He did this to himself. Externalizing the blame only makes it worse.

Obama cannot win our nomination, because if he does, we all loose, and the defeat . . . that, will indeed be biblical.
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:15 AM
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52. Well, you're wrong. This won't take him down. Just watch.
Do you seriously think McCain can use this sort of stuff with the associations he's made in the church? Those people have said MUCH worse things. Go that route would open Pandora's box and would be suicide for McCain.

I'm sorry, I think you really misread the impact of this. Everyone has had close friends that have said something they don't agree with. People aren't going to abandon Obama because of something his pastor said. They're just not.

Just watch. His poll numbers will be right where they were before, within a month.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:18 AM
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55. bookmarking.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:28 PM
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30. People who were going to vote for him are going to seperate him for his pastor the ones who weren't
...going to vote for him are going to make any excuse not to including "his pastor said" or "his doctor said" or "his mother said" or "his dog said"...
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:33 PM
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31. How exciting!!! If we hope hard enough, maybe our presumptive nominee will go down in flames!!!
And how cool would that be, ey? Nothing better than hoping for a brokered convention or an outcome that most will view as stolen. Better McCain than Obama anyways. Go McCain! Go McCain!
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:49 PM
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32. I do remember hearing something about that. Friday news dump. Over. Nobody cares.
Uh huh.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 10:56 PM
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33. You forgot about Gate-gate-gate
and Gate-gate-gate-gate-gate-gate-gate

I'm so freaking sick of "gates".

Watergate made sense, no "gate" since has.

Gate gate gate.

:puke:


As far as Wright, no, it doesn't have legs nor wheels nor any other kind of motive device.

Nor does it matter. Obama is already the nominee.

Can you all give up on hoping for something to destroy our nominee and start to work together for the greater good in November and beyond?

I'll start hoping that Clinton can save her Senate seat.

David
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:13 PM
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38. 2 weeks, tops
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:49 PM
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41. My prediction is that Obama's speech will be Tuesday's big political story.
Edited on Mon Mar-17-08 11:52 PM by nsd
The speech -- not the Wright videos -- will dominate Tuesday's evening news, Wednesday's cable news shows, and Sunday's talk shows.

Then it will be over. And, depending on how well the speech goes, Obama might even be in a better position than he was before -- because he'll have gotten this stuff out of the way and reminded people that he's the national politician best positioned to break America free of identity politics.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:54 PM
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45. "best positioned to break America free of identity politics" - ? How many glass-fulls did you have?
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 12:00 AM
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48. None. I am clear-headed and clear-eyed tonight.
I realize that Obama is no miracle worker, but the kind of campaign he's put together and how far they've come already makes me feel like it's possible to hope for big things. Makes me feel like we don't have to settle for Clintonian cynicism anymore.

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smothtalker Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:49 PM
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42. The story shouldn't have lasted more than 1 day
it is a non-story if you ask me.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:52 PM
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43. He's definitely got a problem, otherwise there'd be no speech on race tomorrow.
This is what is called damage control.
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:10 AM
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51. I don't think it's damage control
Outside of the bloggesphere, this story is moving out of the news cycle already. If he wanted this story to die, he could just let it fade. His speech, on the other hand, will put the story front and center back in the news cycle. And he knows that. If you ask me, he's using this incident as an opportunity to address racial divide in the country, and as opportunity to get back to his message of unity.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 11:53 PM
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44. No, its more like a bedtime story.
It kinda puts you to sleep.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 01:49 AM
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53. Uh, I just did a google news search on Obama and the "wheels" on this story
appear to have fallen off. There were a few articles but not that many, a very small percentage of the total articles out there. Sorry to disappoint you.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 02:07 AM
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54. Cute association, Wellstone and Hillary
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 02:07 AM by 48percenter
:puke:
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 03:13 AM
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56. who knows what other shoes will drop? how foolish is it to nominate a guy who 99% of people never h
heard of a year ago?
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