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Citizen Kang Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:46 PM
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Zogby Poll. McCain beats both Dems. Obama still leads Clinton
Obama over Clinton 47-44
McCain over Clinton 48-40
McCain over Obama 46-40

"It's not surprising to me that McCain's on top because there is disarray and confusion on the Democratic side," Zogby said.


The "Kitchen sink" strategy seems to have its desired effect. If Hillary can't win the nomination, she will make sure she gets another shot in 2012. The Clintons have never been about the Democratic Party, only themselves. When the Clinton's were in the White House our party suffered its worse losses in Congress in our Party's history.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:47 PM
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1. It's the Rev. Wright problem that is driving Obama down, down, down
Look at today's Gallup poll
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Citizen Kang Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:48 PM
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2. Obama is up in Rassussen poll today
eom
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:08 PM
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19. Yes, that's right. Obama leads 47% to 42%.
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, Obama now leads Clinton 47% to 42%. Yesterday, Obama led 45% to 44% (see recent daily results). These results are based nightly telephone surveys and reported on a four-day rolling average basis. Just one night of polling is included since Obama’s speech and that single night result is not much different from the four-day average. The reason for today’s Obama bounce is that Friday night’s results have rolled out of the four-day sample. Following the initial media frenzy over Pastor Wright, Friday’s results were the single worst night of polling for Obama since the Primary Season began.

While the full impact of Obama’s speech will not be known for some time, early indications are that it may have helped Obama more in the Democratic Primary competition than in a potential General Election match-up. Obama is currently seen as having a 43.0 % chance of becoming the next President while expectations for McCain are at 39.7 %.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:13 PM
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24. I'll Go With Gallup Over FOX NOISE's Favorite Pollster
This is the first time Clinton has held a statistically significant lead in over a month. She last led Obama in Feb. 7-9 polling, just after the Super Tuesday primaries. Since then, the two candidates have usually been in a statistical tie, but Obama has held a lead in several of the polls, most recently in March 11-13 polling.

Obama's campaign has been plagued by controversial remarks made by his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Obama delivered a major speech on race Tuesday to try to move beyond the controversy. The initial indications are that the speech has not halted Clinton's gaining momentum, as she led by a similar margin in Tuesday night's polling as compared to Monday night's polling.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105205/Gallup-Daily-Clinton-Moves-Into-Lead-Over-Obama.aspx
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:56 PM
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10. Who in the world would vote for BO now. He should drop out
not only for the good of the party but for the nation. What he and his wife think about this country we can now see from where it comes. His mother brought him up as anti-American, his so called preacher is anti-American, so far as even saying the US started HIV in the American Blacks. What would he do to this country if he got control? He may not be a muslim but his church doesn't sound like any Christian church I've been in. It will take years to heal the racial strife he has put upon us.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:08 PM
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18. Me, for one...
"the racial strife he has put upon us"?!?! "His mother brought him up as anti-American"?!?!
:wtf:
What planet are you from?
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:10 PM
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22. Rean his books.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:12 PM
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23. I looked everywhere for the sarcasm icon in your post...
Because without one, your post looks absolutely ridiculous.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:49 PM
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3. Riiight. it is "Clinton's fault" People all across the nation just LOOOVE Rev Wright and really
"trust Obama":sarcasm: Bad , Bad Hillary making Barack support Rev. Wright!
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Citizen Kang Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:53 PM
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7. this goes back to the 3AM ad
and Hillary's negative attacks out of desperation. She is destroying our chance to win.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:04 PM
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15. Yeah and Obama is doing nothing at all. He is an "innocent". Feh!
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:54 PM
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9. McCain beating Clinton, too, has nothing to do with Wright. *PLONK*
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:50 PM
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4. Let's all watch as the Nutless Wonders of our Party stand back
and let this crapfest continue for two or three more months--all to give Obama ample time to stumble or have his negatives driven up, because we don't want to be too hasty pulling the plug on Hillary's chances--we must keep giving her the benefit of the doubt, we must keep giving Obama a chance to have his poll numbers go down with constant fragging attacks from his own side AND from the GOP.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:03 PM
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13. Next thing you know the tabloids will be telling us how many
affairs BO has had. And it's all that darn Hillary's fault. She should have dropped out giving the nom. to a shameless, undeserving man that doesn't even respect his country. Why should he get the prise if he doesn't even like the place?
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:51 PM
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5. How credible is Zogby these days?
Hasn't he been proven way off base, particularly in predicting the outcome of certain primaries?

I just remember seeing him on TV a few days before the 2004 election announcing with complete certainty that Kerry would be the winner.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:53 PM
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8. And Gallup is better? Please.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:53 PM
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6. The election is in November
By then, nobody is going to give a care about what happened during the primary season. There are too many real issues to be concerned about.
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:03 PM
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14. Exactly
The fact that Wright came out this early and he is already addressing it rather effectively will make it seem stale, tired and desperate when they keep hitting him with it come October. By then, the horrible economy will be THE issue. Economic news is much more slow trending then these silly distractions. Hell, even if the economy were to turn around this summer (the earliest possible) the news and trends and peoples' sense of security will not catch up until well after the election.

The choice will be simple: Obama will be offering solutions for the economy and stuggling Americans, McCain will be trying to re-win 2004 with this patriotism BS: I'm a war hero, Obama hates America like Kerry did, etc.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:09 PM
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20. Dream on. Do you really expect Americans to elect a man
who doesn't even like America, and takes his little girls to listen to a man screaming GOD DAMN America? Poor judgement indeed. If he hadn't stirred up all this racist hate crap, his kids would have grown up without hating whitie.
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:23 PM
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25. That is Sean Hannity's spin
The biggest irony of this election has been that the former mortal enemy Limbaugh ditto heads and Clinton dead-enders have line up on the same side supporting the only candidate that uses the hateful politics as usual approach: Hillary.

But you can hope for you distraction and smears to work in November. What you fail to consider is that people generally like Obama, because of the way he presents himself (unlike Kerry, Dukakis, or even Gore). This makes the attacks less effective. More importantly, he has the issues on his side in a time of severe economic uncertainty. The last time we had this kind of election (with a more robust economy actually), the American people elected a former hippie, pot smoking, affair having completely inexperienced hick from Arkansas - who also happened to be rather likeable.

So smear away, that's all you have. This time it won't work.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:57 PM
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11. Could have had Edwards.
Oh, well...
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:03 PM
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12. The GE is 50 separate elections.
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RYOMYO Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:04 PM
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16. Within MOE. BS. n/t.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:04 PM
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17. Hee hee, Zogby. That's cute
He's still in business!

Shows we really are an optimistic society.

Zogby has ZERO credibility. I laugh at his polls.

David
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hell-bent Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:10 PM
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21. Zogby is an Obama whore.
And, yet he gives only a 4 point spread over Hillary. A month or so ago he was ahead by double digits I believe. Obama has what is called: "retrograde momentum"....... :rofl:
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