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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 04:23 PM
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what's the story with the "unfit for CIC" letter signed by military people
who served WITH Kerry?
Is it all based on his claims about soldiers abusing civilians or is it based on his actual quality of service performed while on duty? Or something else.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 04:24 PM
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1. The story is
the number of posts on it here.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 04:28 PM
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2. it's a bunch of cynical lies put forth by a "Christian" News Service.
The Religious Right don't think it's wrong to lie if Jesus (or Pat Robertson) tells them to do it for The Crusade.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 04:29 PM
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3. Congratulations, you're the 415th person to post this today!
n/t
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 05:42 PM
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5. Great!!! Where's my oven mit?!?!?
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 06:11 PM
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8. Hehe....
I was going to say that you won a prize, but I couldn't think of anything appropriate on short notice.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 05:03 PM
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4. What's the story on the 'unfit for CIC' story about Dubya?
Oh, right, that one doesn't get reported. Yet fake stories about Kerry do.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 05:45 PM
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6. CNS was started in 1998
by Brent "Bozo" Bozell, it is "Wholly without merit"
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 06:01 PM
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7. John O'Neill did not serve with Kerry.
He is a veteran, though, and a right-wing attorney or something.

The press conference is a publicity stunt, nothing more.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 06:22 PM
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9. information
The GOP's not-so-impartial hit man
Desperate to denigrate John Kerry's war record, Republicans have trotted out a "nonpartisan" Navy Vietnam vet -- who was a protege of Nixon dirty trickster Charles Colson and whose law firm is closely tied to the Bush White House.
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By Joe Conason

April 23, 2004 | Houston attorney John E. O'Neill, the Navy veteran who has emerged recently as a harsh and ubiquitous critic of John Kerry's military service, tells reporters that he has never really been interested in politics and isn't motivated by partisan interests. In the media, O'Neill is often http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/2519253>described simply as a Vietnam vet still enraged by the antiwar speeches Kerry delivered more than 30 years ago. That was when O'Neill first came to public attention as a clean-cut, pro-war http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4534274/>protégé of the Nixon White House's highest-ranking dirty trickster (aside from the late president himself), Charles Colson.

http://archive.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/04/23/o_neill/index.html

Also note that O'Neill did not serve in the 'Nam with Lt. Kerry. He arrived in-country 2 months after Lt. Kerry had cycled out.

A Sterling Record
By Wesley K. Clark
LITTLE ROCK, Ark.

When John Kerry released his military records to the public last week, Americans learned a lot about Mr. Kerry's exceptional service in Vietnam. They also learned a lot about the Republican attack machine.

The evaluations were uniformly glowing. One commander wrote that Mr. Kerry ranked among "the top few" in three categories: initiative, cooperation and personal behavior. Another commander wrote, "In a combat environment often requiring independent, decisive action, Lt. j.g. Kerry was unsurpassed." The citation for Mr. Kerry's Bronze Star praises his "calmness, professionalism and great personal courage under fire."

In the United States military, there's no ideology — there are no labels, Republican or Democrat — when superiors evaluate a man or woman's service to country. Mr. Kerry's commander for a brief time, Grant Hibbard, now a Republican, gave Mr. Kerry top marks 36 years ago.

Now the standards are those of politics, not the military. Despite his positive evaluations, Mr. Hibbard recently questioned whether Mr. Kerry deserved one of his three Purple Hearts.

In the heat of a political campaign, attacks come from all directions. That's why John Kerry's military records are so compelling; they measure the man before his critics or his supporters saw him through a political lens. These military records show that John Kerry served his country with valor, and that those who served with him and above him held him in high regard. That's honor enough for any veteran.

Yet the Republican attack machine follows a pattern we've seen before, whether the target is Senator John McCain in South Carolina in 2000 or Senator Max Cleland in Georgia in 2002. The latest manifestation of these tactics is the controversy over Mr. Kerry's medals.

http://nytimes.com/2004/04/28/opinion/28CLAR.html
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:58 AM
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10. Locking.....
This story has been proven to be false.
If you can find a link to prove these
allegations, please feel free to repost
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