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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:15 PM
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So, what will John Edwards say on Leno tonight?
Interesting that John Edwards will appear on Leno tonight.

I'm not aware that he has a feature film to promote. Did he write a book?

Why appear on Leno? That's a huge deal.

I look forward to listening and watching. I miss seeing John Edwards around.

This could be interesting!

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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:18 PM
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1. to confess an alien abduction
so goes the rumormill

:eyes:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:19 PM
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2. I'm so disappointed in John Edwards, I don't care what he has to say.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:21 PM
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8. Me too.. me neither.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:29 PM
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23. can you call to see if it's true?
NBC Media Contact: Tracy St. Pierre, 818/840-3648
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:37 PM
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34. The endorsement (or not) doesn't bother me.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:30 PM
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25. your dissipointed in him based on a rumor?
Why dont you wait to see what he announces before you throw him under the bus.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:36 PM
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32. No, not at all. I've been disappointed in him since he abandoned his supporters...
...without a word ~ so many people gave money they really needed over and over again, and he dropped out without an explanation or a word since.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:43 PM
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42. He was pushed out of the race
by the DNC.
If you cannot see that, then you are blind.
He was told to step aside so the party could make history because he was just getting in the way.
Watch the speech he gave with an open mind. Watch how he said it and what he didn't say.
The answer is as plain as day.
And of course, you ARE aware that Elizabeth's Dad has died in the interim. He is an asshole because he didn't comfort YOU instead of his wife.:eyes:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:44 PM
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43. he left the race because he couldn't get enough votes
I supported him and I could see that.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:46 PM
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44. Sure ya did
~wink~
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:48 PM
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47. I did, and I don't need your validation.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:48 PM
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46. Who called him an asshole???
Get a grip.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:56 PM
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51. And the media. They helped to kill his candidacy off, big time.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:09 PM
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60. Respectfully, I did not get that impression from the speech
Those speeches are even tough to watch. I remember watching when Gephardt gave his in 2004 - in tears. I taped Kerry's and watched it a few days later. It didn't matter if I was for the person - Gephardt was never my choice and Kerry the person I was happiest to cast a vote for in my life. In both cases, it is a pretty abrupt loss of dreams they likely had for years and they are called upon to stand in public, thank their supports, and to try to give some meaning to the fight itself - more for those that cared than themselves.

To me Edwards is a proud, optimistic, confident man, for whom conceding that it wasn't going to happen had to be extremely hard. On top of it, his father-in -law's health problems may already have been in play and, as we know, Elizabeth Edwards is struggling with a truly awful diagnosis - and they have small children. Also consider that he had worked like a dog for the last several months - and pretty hard since 2004. I would bet that he simply memorized what he had to say and spoke it almost by rote - to connect less to the moment too make it less painful.

I assume it was his decision - he hadn't gained momentum and he was heading into a day where 20 states were up. He did not have the resources and there were too many to actually go to all of them.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:11 PM
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62. Right on some one on CNN said that very morning heat would be put on Edwards to get out
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 09:13 PM by surfermaw
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:47 PM
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that is pretty cheesey of him. to take the peoples money
who had given it to him in good faith and just let them hang like that without an explanation.

in fact, that's not cheesey, that's pretty damn shitty.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:14 PM
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63. reason for not out right quiting was so he could pay off debts and keep his campaign open
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:34 PM
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I'm sure you'll change your tone if he endorses Obama *rolls eyes*
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:52 PM
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48. I would now ask about 'what's in it for John'?
if he did endorse Obama at this point - that's the feeling I'm getting from this guy now - he sounds too shifty and in it for himself. holding off on any announcement for so long just to have his drama queen moment.

feh.


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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:54 PM
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50. At this point, I'd ask the same thing...
Some said he was opportunistic when he campaigned so differently than he voted in the Senate ~ now I think they might've been right.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:15 PM
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64. He has a reason to be sure
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:10 PM
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61. What did you expect him to do after Obama voters bashing.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:19 PM
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3. he's supposed to endorse Hillary Clinton, per Chris Mattews
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:20 PM
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4. He is? On Jay Leno's show??
According to Chris Matthews, when?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:22 PM
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9. Jen, this comes as a shock to me, as well....
I didn't hear anything about a Hillary endorsement, but it is a
fact that Edwards is appearing on Leno tonight.

I would imagine that there's a good chance he'll endorse someone.

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:20 PM
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5. Is that really true?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:23 PM
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12. we won't know until tonight - he said Mark Halperin (Time) said this
here is what I put said about it then:

A funny thing happened on Sunday morning; I was watching the Chris Matthews show, and out popped what should be (to me) an explosive tidbit. A little birdie told Mark Halperin of Tim (but announced on that show by Mattews) that John Edwards was planning on endorsing Hillary Clinton before the North Carolina Primary.

Now I suppose supporters of Barack Obama would like to know what I think of that... I'll tell you...




What affact would John Edwards endorsement of Hillary Clinton have on me, personally?

None.

Want to know why?

John Edwards.

You see, after almost 8 years of apologizing for the Clintons, spinning their spin, I told myself that I would never work the truth for a politician again. I would see it for what it was and accept or reject the action/legislation. It is not an easy thing to do - you want your side to be right.

So when:

Eight days after I received an email from Joe Trippi, telling me he "just spoke to John Edwards" and that John told him "he's committed to going all the way to the Democratic Convention" and asked me for more money, and

Seven days after I sent him more money, and

Four days after he lost South Carolina, and

The day after I got an another email from Trippi saying that fundraising was great, could I send some more, and sent it ,

... John Edwards went on television and "suspended his campaign"

I was a little mad. He strung me along and took my money, knowing he would not need it for ads. I did not apologize for him. I accepted the truth, and I was hurt.

And I was also very sad; his concession speech was very moving. I wanted to reach out and hug Elizabeth Edwards. The man I had chosen from the large field of players to be the leader of this country, my leader, was bowing out.

I mourned with other Edwards supporters. The pain was raw, like two November 5ths of recent memory. In his household, it must've been worse, as it all sank in over the next several days. So I gave him his time of grief, read through his email, requesting I 'keep my powder dry', and waited. And waited. The world changed, and I waited.

And my leader said nothing. Asked nothing. Did nothing. And the Primary wars waged. My teen-aged daughter felt bad for me, but urged me to check out Obama more - she really loved him. I researched his positions more thoroughly, I checked his record, and I watched how he had a give and take with his supporters that I never felt with the Edwards campaign.

Absent direction from my 'leader' I made up my own mind. I chose Barack Obama, and truth be told, I am happier with this choice than I was with John Edwards. Most of my Edwards friends chose Obama. In the only state where he placed second, Iowa, John Edwards lost much of his support to Senator Obama when the final convention results came in.

So, you see, if and when Edwards announces his support for Clinton, I will feel nothing. He left me to twist in the wind while he played politics with the remaining two players. I moved on from supporting his candidacy to supporting Obama's. Had he showed true leadership and aligned himself with the person closest to his views, and that turned out to be Clinton, I may have respected his endorsement and taken a second look at her. But he didn't. At this point, I feel Senator Clinton just came out on top in the "Let's Make John Edwards a Deal" game, and how can I ever be expected to respect that?

Sorry John, I truly supported your war on poverty, but you are too late to the party to affect my decision to support Barack Obama. and too late I suspect, to affect a very large percentage of your other "former" supporters.

Now... on to the White House! Go Obama!

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:21 PM
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6. When did he say that? I watch him all the time and haven't heard that
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:24 PM
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14. on his show on Sunday - see my post above.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:27 PM
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19. can you call?
NBC Media Contact: Tracy St. Pierre, 818/840-3648

I got this off politico.com on ben's blog. Can you call that number to see if he endorsed anyone?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:29 PM
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22. did you?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:31 PM
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26. I'm deaf
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:33 PM
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28. sorry - check your PM already sent it.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:32 PM
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27. so, did you call?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:35 PM
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30. I called!
The Leno show is taped at 4:00 Pacific Time. So we have a little over an
hour before taping begins.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:36 PM
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33. thanks for the headsup
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:37 PM
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35. I called....see my posts below (nt)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:40 PM
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40. That is grist for the rumor mill
I seriously doubt that Edwards would share ANYTHING with that dirtbag Matthews.
He is just pulling stuff out of his ass...as usual.
I doubt Edwards will endorse ANYONE.

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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:21 PM
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7. My dream on what he says?
That he is resuming his candidacy with Al Gore as his running mate

Don't anyone DARE trash this moment for me...just give me one wish, that I will eventually walk away from, without pissing on it...please.

sigh
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:24 PM
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15. I heard that's exactly what's going to happen...
John and Al have been hunkered down at John's house, writing their campaign strategy.

It's going to be awesome.

Ok, not true, but I just wanted you to bask in your dream for another few
seconds. Everyone needs a dream!

:)
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:27 PM
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18. I love you...thanks
:)
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:23 PM
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10. I hope he has more sense than to endorse
ANYONE on Leno's show. I think it is in poor taste to use that show as a political venue.

I stopped watching him long ago, precisely because of his dated, heavy-handed Clenis jokes. Yes, I know he has a reputation for being more liberal than his jokes.

Let him endorse anyone he wants, if he wants. But keep it dignified. And please, not on Leno, Letterman, Oprah, The Daily Show, or anything like that. Politics and entertainment are too closely entwined as it is. And media has far to much say in our politics.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:23 PM
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11. He's going to say you have too many sparkles.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:28 PM
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20. ...but I only have two...
...and judging from his expensive haircuts, he has many more sparkles than I do.

What? Edwards wants my sparkles now?

;)
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:23 PM
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13. he will unsuspend his campaign since the two leading candidates are blooding each other up?
and present himself as the compromise candidate.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:40 PM
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41. If it's an SD battle it wouldn't be a terrible idea for him.
I'm an Obama guy (was for Edwards earlier because I thought he was due, and for pessimistic 'electability' reasons).

Fact is, neither Obama or Clinton will make the numbers, there's a fight over MI and FL, Hillary's definitely going to make a SD move and Obama needs to make a similar argument. Edwards could say, let's redo MI and FL and I'm in -- let's see how many votes I get there, and I'll fight for the SDs just like Hill and Obama. He could be viable in the second round of voting.

Then, come November the press will make fun of his hair, the Dem party won't have the nutts to back up their candidate and we'll lose another election. It's the media I'm worried about.

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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:24 PM
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16. I Bet He Mentions Mill Workers
:shrug:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:29 PM
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24. Way to bet on a "sure thing".
:rofl:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:25 PM
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17. call this number to see if he endorsed anyoen
NBC Media Contact: Tracy St. Pierre, 818/840-3648

The rumor on politico.com is that he endorsed hillary.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:34 PM
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29. I just called...he said that the show is taped at...
...4:00 Pacific Time.

So, that means they start taping the show in a couple of hours.

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:36 PM
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31. ok, then the rumors on politico are false
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:38 PM
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36. I guess we won't know until after the show is taped.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:39 PM
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39. They haven't even begun to tape yet...
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 04:42 PM by TwoSparkles
...per the information from Tracy at the number you gave me.

I bet we will know in two hours.

6:30 Central time, 4:30 Pacific Time. I imagine that Edwards will be the first guest. I
can't imagine him hanging out in the green room with Hannah Montana and Jimmy Smitz.



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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:56 PM
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52. wouldn't be the first time.
But hey...when you get your news from a RW rag...what do you REALLY expect?
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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:39 PM
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38. Leno does not tape tonights show until 7pm est.
So look for it to leak fast in about 2 hours if he does endorse someone.
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chocome Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:28 PM
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21. telling he supports hillary :-)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:38 PM
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37. Perhaps because he is STILL relevant?
Perhaps because people are STILL interested in his work on poverty issues?
Everything is NOT about this ridiculous Presidential contest between obama and Hillary.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:47 PM
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45. While I believe that Edwards' work....
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 04:48 PM by TwoSparkles
...on behalf of the poor in this country is admirable and amazing, I doubt
he's going on Leno to talk about those things.

Leno is, "I've got something really big and exciting to say."

Maybe he feels prompted. I was a delegate at the Iowa County Conventions
last Saturday, and the Edwards supporters were pretty concerned and upset.
They were told to "stay put" collectively. Many of them went to Obama.

It appeared as though they were frustrated to be without guidance from Edwards.
It's not as if these people can't make up their own minds. They're intelligent,
thoughtful people. However, I got the strong sense that they were waiting for
his opinion, before they do anything.

Just my experience, which may or may not be relevant.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:54 PM
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49. There was a great article awhile back
that said that Edwards and Gore had a discussion about endorsing and the finer points of NOT endorsing.
I cannot see one scenario where it benefits Edwards to endorse now and I honestly do not think he will.
Maybe he is on Leno because Leno asked him to be.
Maybe Leno wants to try to scoop an endorsement.
Maybe Edwards knows how to play the game and is taking the free publicity for his work.
Edwards would be foolish to endorse Hillary because the wrath of the obama people would fall heavily on him. He doesn't deserve that.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 04:58 PM
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53. If he endorses her then he is asking for it really though
I will be extremely dissapointed for one.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:00 PM
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54. Why is he "asking" for it?
Seriously?
Is he NOT entitled to his opinion, just as you are?
I'm sure if Edwards knew you, he would find quite a bit to be disappointed about, too.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:04 PM
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55. Absolutely he is entitled to it, I wouldn't have it any other way
that's what this country is founded on. My point is that his stances have nearly all aligned with Obama's over Hillary's and it would be a huge dissapointment. If he does indeed endorse her then he's going to have to deal with everyone else who also has a right to their opinions as well, and it will be in droves.
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Reader Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:06 PM
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56. Maybe he's going to talk about the Iraq/Recession Campaign?
I really can't see him endorsing anyone, especially on Leno. It seems a bit...tacky.
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WDIM Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:06 PM
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57. To endorse Obama!
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:38 PM
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58. No endorsement tonight
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fuertegal Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 08:40 PM
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59. Hopefully, he will issue an endorsement
And if you are reading this John, cast it for Obama!
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:16 PM
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65. To announce he's back in the race. Even if he can't win, I can hope ;)
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:20 PM
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66. maybe he was the one who looked at the Passport files.....
only kidding....I like John.
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