This IS big news

[stop the bleeding]

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS210US210&q=obama,+passport&um=1&tab=wn&scoring=n

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iFJ3vNfsH1Ul0kYvcB7RllkSx71gD8VHGJD00

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/0321/breaking3.htm

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/03/breaking-news-s.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/claims-of-dirty-tricks-after-security-breach-on-obama-passport-details-799035.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2044494920080321

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/03/20/employees_fired_for_searching_obama_file/4672/

http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080320/NATION/541139809/1001

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/20/obama.passport/

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/03/21/america/Obama-Passport.php

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23736254/

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/20/state-dept-to-respond-to-reports-of-breach-of-obamas-passport-file/


I don't care what anyone says this is a big deal.:beer:

over 50 days they knew about this shit

3 separate times 01/09/08 02/21/08 03/14/08

3 people (that we know of)

Rice

curious employees? maybe but we'll see when we get to the facts

Please discuss

edit: to add links


time 8:52pm EST

[npincus]

1. not sure I can... my head is spinning....

[redstate_democrat]

9. JEREMIAH!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5179322&mesg_id=5181911

[npincus]

28. don't mind me, but I sent this to a certain Sludge-bag

:rofl:

[redstate_democrat]

34. he he he

:rofl:

[Cha]

47. Sweet!

A big thanky!

[ColbertWatcher]

2. GOP Spin

Will the GOP spin this to say monitoring works?

Or, maybe I should ask when will they use this as proof their warrantless spying on American citizens needs to be forgiven?

[Johnny__Motown]

3. It may set up an Obama v Bush fight that elevates his standing among some/most Americans

[writes3000]

4. These people are TOLD that looking into these files is against the law.

And yet, they just couldn't help themselves?

Just curiosity?

Bull. Shit.

[ThatBozGuy]

10. They are not only told, but have to affirm a eula everytime they access them...

That makes it clear that they are only to be looked into for official purposes with the specific laws impact and fines and jail sentences that may be levied.

[writes3000]

17. Good to know. n/t

[roguevalley]

25. I wonder how the times of looking coincide with events in the campaigns.

[stillcool]

42. three different times...

Security breech. No big deal my ass.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

5. Damn Sure It Is. I Want Fuckin Answers Pronto.

And the answers should ALREADY all be available since this was known for quite some time already. This is bullshit.

[stop the bleeding]

7. You said it OMC

over 50 days they knew about this shit

3 separate times

3 people (that we know of)

Like you I want some effing answers

[Window]

38. The lower level management thought they handled it. The inspector

general and higher-ups just found out today. More heads are rightfully going to roll.

[FrenchieCat]

6. I want my fucking constitution back!

I want it now!

I am fucking serious. :mad:

[grantcart]

8. I beg to differ - it might be big news right now it is a lucky break for the

newspeople who have gotten sick to their stomach of Rev. Wright controversy.

It could be something, right now we don't know.

[tishaLA]

20. is it bad that

I HOPE it's something? Something really fucking big.

[grantcart]

49. It doesn't matter what it shows to me is how desperate everybody but

Fox is to get off the Wright story. They cannot find a way to elevate the discussion to match Obama's so they need something to displace it.

[Lint Head]

11. Kick this post.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5181173 :dem:

[H2O Man]

12. Nominated.

OSP.

[bleever]

19. Cheney's

arm at the State Department.

[H2O Man]

22. The State Dept

provides cover to those from several other groups. The fact that Condi Rice only found out yesterday should indicate what type of operation this is. OVP/OSP.

[bleever]

29. Condi is informed

on a need-to-know basis.

[JTG of the PRB]

13. I agree 100%.

This IS a big story. We don't know how big it is because it's just breaking, but it could either slowly wither away, or it could get even bigger. Maybe it is three curious individuals, but the timeline just doesn't make sense. January 9th, February 21st, March 14th. Three separate incidents, three different people. Given the fact that Senator Obama is currently the Democratic front-runner in a majority of the polls, this nearly 7-day delay in informing him about this breach of his privacy is suspicious.

I'm hoping this isn't as bad as it has the potential to become.

[Fluffdaddy]

14. WTF?? But how long before someone here blames HRC?

[Rockholm]

26. 30 minutes.

[csorman]

33. Oh, STFU and grow up. n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

39. ...

:eyes:

[Rockholm]

53. Eff Off

[gayron]

15. I give this story 2 days

I am sure this will not make the race thing go away.

[Fluffdaddy]

24. You hope

[Hissyspit]

16. "Just Low-Level Employees" "No Political Motivation" Shades of Watergate:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3039571

[Buzz Clik]

18. k&r

[imax2268]

21. Has

Fux News said anything about this yet...at work...no access to tv...and I don't go to Fux News website...

[stop the bleeding]

23. look at the last link in the OP

:beer:

[MrCTLib]

27. ...

Hannity reported it saying that it was Condi's people that reported it, Estrich was saying it was just some contract employee's but Newt was siding with Barack. He wants to know that the Goverment is protecting the privacy of the public. Wants to hear more info on it.

[bleever]

30. Thanks

for being brave enough to watch Fox.

And welcome to DU.

[Kittycat]

31. No criminal investigation - yet this is a Misdemenor at a minimum

Felony if they disseminated the information.

I can't believe I'm reading so-called democrats not concerned about this.

[Ichingcarpenter]

32. It is big news, It was big news also with Clinton in 92

I don't believe for a moment it curious employees,
but also start looking at the background of these employees
just like watergate, I'm betting it runs back to the National Republican Committee.

[myrna minx]

43. I completely agree with you.

Love your avatar btw. :hi:

[Maraya1969]

35. Keith was talking about it for his whole show. I decided to see what

Bill O'Ridiculous was talking about so I switched over and he was talking about celebrities.

So I think it's big and incidentally Mr. O'Ridiculous probably doesn't even know it happened yet.

[wolfgirl]

36. For those of us who are in the government, with

the ability to access privileged information, we are constantly reminded that we are about to access privileged/confidential info and have to acknowledge that we have a "need to know". Trust me, if I went where I'm not allowed/authorized, I'd not only be in huge trouble, but everyone I work with would be forced to undergo another series of training sessions to reinforce the rules.

So, my question - why 3 separate incidents, supposedly involving 3 separate "contractors" and yet, no one thought it was more than just being nosy?

I'm having a very hard time swallowing that. But I'll reserve my opinion until there is an independent investigation!

Peace!

[stop the bleeding]

37. Thanks wolfgirl

I work around/with access to people's personal information on a daily basis. Like you I am "I'm having a very hard time swallowing that. But I'll reserve my opinion until there is an independent investigation!"

[Tresalisa]

40. I worked for a large medical provider in California,

and we had many patients whose names you would easily recognize. Silly me, I never once got out their records just to see what was going on with them, although I could have easily done so. If this is indeed what happened with Obama's records, shame on those people! )x(

[damndude]

41. is there any legal recourse

for obama to take to initiate investigations into the state department and their handling of private information but also what should be classified information considering his status as a presidential candidate. if this is an attempt on the part, at any level, for nefarious activity and use then it seems only impartial investigations would be the only prevention to a recurrence of such in the future as means of affecting the electoral process. i hope they jump ahead of the ball on this and don't give them an inch of reasonable doubt.

[goclark]

44. I think the bouncing ball is already in motion.

They know exactly what they are doing.

[rucky]

45. What were they looking for?

:shrug:

[tblue37]

48. Fishing expedition? n/t

[rucky]

50. OMG He went to Prague!

why passport records, of all things?

[slinkerwink]

46. there HAS to be an outside investigation on this! I don't trust the bushies.

[David Zephyr]

51. top the bleeding, thanks for bringing all the links here. Much appreciated.

And you've shown how big this story really is in the eyes of the world.

Americans don't like this sort of dirty spying on people.

Big story.

[grantcart]

52. and tomorrow it won't even be the lead story