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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:51 PM
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OMG Clinton person linked to Obama file breach. Per KO
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:51 PM
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1. I did not catch her name but she was named ambassador during clinton's administration
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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:53 PM
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6. Her name is Maura Hardy
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:59 PM
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38. Asst. Secretary of State for Consular Affairs, according to this'
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:06 PM
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74. Heres her photo

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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:32 PM
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165. Ack!
Sorry...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:53 PM
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197. And how is she a "contract employee" . . . what does that mean ?????
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:28 AM
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250. Revolving door?
Leave government employ, come back as higher-paid contractor, same job, same desk?

Good work if you can get it.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:55 AM
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260. she is not. she was a supervisor a couple steps above the contract employees that did this.
it was not her that did it i dont think? Keith didnt really make that clear...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 09:34 PM
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263. But . . . did she report it . . . ???? Otherwise, why is she mentioned?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:28 AM
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224. I accidentally duplicated this thread.. new guy, sorry
that's it
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damndude Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:53 PM
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DUCK!!!!
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damndude Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:02 PM
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49. honestly........
i would hope that she would not go this far to win and until there is more information i would advise reserving judgment. but if this is the case, either with her knowledge or 'without', it's time to end this once and for all. if anything i would hope that this was all only done in by an overzealous supporters and not by one of her surrogates.
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:58 PM
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32. Ambassador to Paraguay of all places...
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:00 PM by Zueda
certainly sounds like one of them loyalty reward positions. :shrug:

Paraguay?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:01 PM
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48. Are you serious? Where Bush is buying land over the aquifer??
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 PM
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61. curious... isn't it?
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:05 PM
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69. !
:tinfoilhat:

upgrading to three-ply
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:13 PM
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104. **SNORT**
:rofl:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:20 PM
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LOL! I'm with you!!!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:24 PM
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143. !
Where does one get the three-ply upgraded version -- please, do tell. :tinfoilhat:
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:33 PM
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172. I make my own.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 11:13 PM by Usrename
:hide:

on edit> make sure that you put the shiny side out because if you get it reversed all it does is magnify the beams and makes everything ten times worse...
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:32 AM
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229. Even more curious, she's been accused of favoring Saudi interests...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:02 PM
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53. Kevin Bacon...
but way less than 6 degrees.
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:18 PM
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116. Safe harbor if things don't
work out. These people are so deranged that they think they can live together.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:21 PM
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127. Paraguay doesn't count!!
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:20 AM
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245. LOL!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:52 PM
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2. I heard that too...thought I was mistaken.
:wow:
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:54 PM
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13. If this is true....My jaw was on the floor too.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:55 PM
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16. her immediate supervisor is patrick kennedy, the secretary of management
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ThatBozGuy Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:00 PM
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You mean Patrick "no relation" Kennedy, Assistant Secretary of State for the Clinton Administration?
?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:04 PM
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62. Patrick F. Kennedy
who endorsed Hillary, I believe.
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:52 PM
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3. just now??
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:53 PM
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8. Yes, he just read the statement.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:57 PM
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20. hardy was appointed ambassador during clinton administration
and is now the supervisor of those employees.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:58 PM
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30. I can't say that I'm the slightest bit surprised...
Win at ALL costs is the motto.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:28 PM
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158. Career Foreign Service appointed to this position by George W. Bush
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:52 PM
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4. more information?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:52 PM
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I figured it could be part of the kitchen sink strategy, but that was QUICK!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:52 PM
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5. I didn't hear that. NT
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:53 PM
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7. what? I watched it and didn't hear it.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 PM
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54. the 10:00 o'oclock version of Countdown was different, it was new info
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:53 PM
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9. I just heard it too. Can't say I'm surprised.
n/t.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:23 PM
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136. really now
Hmmm, says all I need to know.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:53 PM
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10. maura hardy? ambassador to paraguay? I don't get it
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:54 PM
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15. supervisor in charge of employees had ties to clinton administration
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:53 PM
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11. The link is tenuous at best at the moment....
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 09:54 PM by Kristi1696
But it is interesting. Of even more interest is that the woman in question, Maura Hardy, has very recently "retired". So she may not be subject to an investigation by the Inspector General.

This is really starting to smell.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:53 PM
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12. Why is the transcript taking SO LONG?
Ugh! :beer:
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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:54 PM
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14. If this is true, I approve of B word messages.Only if this is fact.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:55 PM
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17. HRC's Scorch Earth Policy at work
You go girl
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:58 PM
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31. This is really starting to smell of fish on the third day..n/t
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:47 PM
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212. Look in your back pocket for the fish. You've been carrying it around for awhile.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:58 PM
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213. Is that buddy icon ironic?
:shrug:
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:56 PM
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18. Well at least she didnt break into his hotel room
as far as i know
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:56 PM
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19. But Obama has an outspoken pastor!!!! n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:57 PM
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21. Yeah, but it means nothing
This is no big deal

Reverend Wright!!!!Michigan!!!!!!!Ready on Day One!!!!!!!Kitchen Sink!!!!!!!!!


:eyes:

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:57 PM
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24. there needs to be an investigation
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:59 PM
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33. man.....


The firing of the two contractors makes them immune to questioning by the State Department Inspector General. When and by whom were these contractors fired? If the contractors were fired by their immediate (low-level) supervisors, who were the only ones so far to have investigated their motives, was this a part of a cover-up by the supervisors who did not report the breeches to higher-up? Why have not the immediate supervisors been disciplined?

The fact that the IG has not yet started his investigation makes any statement about the motives or subsequent actions of the contractors completely suspect. BTW, there is no actual IG, just an acting IG at State, according to MSNBC.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:16 PM
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115. Waterboard them.
I hear that's quite effective, and necessary.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:00 PM
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Oh there will be an investigation at the very least
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:05 PM
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68. Should have been one in January and in February and obviously now
x(
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:57 PM
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22. Oh please.......
how desperate are you? :eyes:
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:59 PM
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37. Hillary IS looking guilty. You better hold on tight.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:02 PM
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52. I just farted
Now she will lose for sure.It's all her damn fault.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:12 PM
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98. Your just being funny.
:yoiks:
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:21 PM
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128. It's all HILLARY'S fault
EVERYTHING is Hillary's fault. Get it?
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:37 PM
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183. Not everything. Well not things that are outside of politics and Obama anyway.
:sarcasm:
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:45 AM
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233. buff has a farting fetish. No wonder they like the gasbag hillary. n/t
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:03 PM
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207. You Have The Class Of A Blow Up Doll
Only not as good looking.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:42 AM
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231. What's new? Every post of yours is stinky hot air.
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damndude Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:25 PM
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before we jump to that conclusion
would she actually link herself to what amounts to political espionage in a governmental agency and would the insiders in the bush state dpt really be honest enough to tip off the media when the best thing for them is for hillary to beat obama and thus ensuring the match up between she and mccain. she cant be that desperate to think that the would get away with it. she and bill attract independent counsels like a whore with a herpes flare up.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:59 PM
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39. Umm... Neshanic, I believe, is one of yours.
BTW - Gonna drop a big racist bomb on this thread like the one that got torched the other night?

Can't wait!!

- as
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 PM
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57. Yes, I am a Hillary person, voting for the presumptive, which is Obama
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 PM
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89. thanks for the verification!
Wouldn't want to see you Clinton peeps beating each other up. there are plenty of Obama peeps to go around. :D

- as
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:15 PM
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111. LOL...it's a Hillary supporter.
:eyes: is right.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:57 PM
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23. This would be crazy, if true.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:57 PM
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25. OMG !
Source:- pulled straight from your'e ass...
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:13 PM
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103. wow, what a fitting screen name....
and what the hell is "your'e"? I take it you're drunk as we speak?:crazy:
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:57 PM
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26. Hillary Clinton will stop at nothing to win
This is outrageous. Muslim smear, playing the race card, now sending her hacks to illegally view state department passport files.

She is worse than Nixon. I call on her to exit the race NOW.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:59 PM
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35. ...
:eyes:
You calling on her to drop out of the race is not going to do anything.
And she is not worse than Nixon.
You Obambots really have to pull for anything to smear HRC.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:01 PM
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46. I made a pledge to myself today to tone it down
in here. But Obama supporters make it very difficult. WAIT! I just farted. GOD DAMN THAT HILLARY. IT'S ALL HER FAULT!!!! Geeus effin H Khrist. This place has gotten so way over the line it's pathetic. :puke:
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 PM
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85. Do you think you matter that much?
Why are there so many recent Obama supporters with such an extremely exaggerated sense of self-importance?

Good GAWD.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:19 PM
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120. you really don't care how she wins, do you?
I can't believe after seven years of the Bush Administration that any true "progressive" would countenance these sort of tactics. Remember the outrage we all felt when we learned about the secret NSA wiretapping? I just don't get the double standard, and what you have to believe these days in order to continue to defend the indefensible.
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 04:40 AM
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237. Double standard? It's easy.
It's called partisanship. Remember IOKIYAR? Works the other way, too.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:32 PM
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166. It's best to get out of these NOBAMA threads
You can't argue with people that are nuts. It's scary that these people are free to roam the streets. Damn that reagan for shutting down all the mental institutions!
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:14 PM
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108. LOL LOL LOL
You people are really getting desperate. I was a little upset at first,but damn... wading through all this horse shit I can't help laughing.Anything about Hillary draws you haters out like a magnet on a freeper. :rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:50 PM
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195. You are looking real FOOLISH with your faux OUTRAGE
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:57 PM
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27. How can they do a proper investigation

if they're releasing names already? Two of the three were immediately fired.
Did they get questioned? I find it hard to believe that this was just discovered
today.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:58 PM
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28. Holy crap. If true, Hillary is big toasty toast.
She'd be lucky if they allowed her to stay in the Democratic party.

If true. I'll wait and see.

- as
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:02 PM
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50. Man, I really can't wait for clinton to accept she's lost, but DAMN I do NOT want this to be true.
It would confirm just how treacherous she can be.

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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:58 PM
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29. Huh?
I watched his 8pm broadcast and didn't see anything like that at all.
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Tropics_Dude83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:59 PM
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34. He's doing a live 2nd hour n/t
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 PM
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56. He did his regularly planned broadcast
in the 10 P.M. slot, instead of a re-broadcast per usual.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 09:59 PM
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36. I can't effing believe it!!
jayzus...that sure raises the ante...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:00 PM
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40. Whoa. This is not going to look good.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:00 PM
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41. If that's true...say buh-bye to former Presidential Candidate, Sen. Clinton.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:36 PM
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180. I'd say "Former Senator Clinton". n/t
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:49 PM
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194. Yeah, that too!
Perhaps President Obama will give her a pardon just to show how much class he has.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:00 PM
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42. She retired at the end of Feb. the 2 people who did it while she was there were fired, the 3rd, not
It was said earlier that "there is something different between the first two events and the third one". I forget which talking head blurted that out.


So, perhaps the difference was that those 2 worked under ... umm.... Her.... and the 3rd one didn't.


It may also be why we learned about the 3rd one so quickly, it was only a week ago, not 2 months.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 PM
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60. Shit, so she didn't report it. She just fired them and they can't be interviewed now.
The new person reported the 3rd one.

Why was there a 3rd, if she retired though?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:06 PM
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72. I don't know. I want a full investigation into this.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:07 PM
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78. Good question, along with many others that need to be answered.
:beer:
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:08 PM
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83. I am not sure she fired them (poorly phrased) may have been fired after she left
I dont know....
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:37 PM
Original message
They can still be interviewed - it's a crime
not just an infraction of office rules.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:56 AM
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262. she didnt fire them i think, it was a subordinate of hers that did... she is several step above
these people.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:04 PM
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64. Good observation
:beer:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:04 PM
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65. ah, interesting........
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:25 PM
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149. Speculation: maybe they found out about the first two
and gave her the 'opportunity' to bail before they notified Obama.

- as
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:38 PM
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185. Maybe, but then it happened again. This is just weird.. gonna need to hear more


My speculation was that the 3rd one got caught and is talking (saving his/her job). Giving up the first two who were then fired.
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damndude Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:57 PM
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203. andrea mitchell on the second hour of olbermann
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:00 AM
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215. According to the wikipedia, she announced her plans to
retire in February back in November, before any breaches.
This whole speculation is ridiculous.
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:57 AM
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240. yeah, because high level espionage with insiders is never planned
two can play at the knifey-spoony game .... :eyes:
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:01 PM
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43. i'm looking forward to hearing more
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:08 PM by malik flavors
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:01 PM
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44. Wow. Very, very disturbing.
If I cared at all about Hillary's political future, I'd be shitting my pants right now.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:07 PM
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75. Let's wait for the investigation first....
It does look bad.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #75
182. Me thinks the investigation is already done
We just haven't heard the details...yet.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:01 PM
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45. Ohhhhh.... that's gotta sting!
:rofl:

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:01 PM
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47. Link - because I trust Keith as much as I trust Bill-o.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:02 PM
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51. You forgot the sarcasm smiley.
n/t.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 PM
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59. That says a lot about you.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:06 PM
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71. Olbermann is a left wing Bill-O.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #71
82. Gee, ain't we clever? You're a real hoot.
:eyes:
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 PM
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84. He's a two faced SOB
He IS another Bill-O and Sean Hannity rolled into one.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:12 PM
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96. My, my, looks like someone gets cranky when their candidate is shown to have a supporter willing to
pilfer through the confidential files of her opponent....
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:13 PM
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101. Nothing's Been Shown Here
No links, nothing, just spew.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:14 PM
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110. I guess you haven't been paying attention. And you know what? That's not MY problem.
n/t.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #110
123. Where Is The Link? Video? Something?
Something besides somebody here just saying this.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:25 PM
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145. "Yak! Yak! Yak! Make it go away!"
You know, if you really don't have the requisite comportment - you know, the adult maturity thing? - to participate in threads like this, you really should consider not clicking on them. It's just a thought.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:28 PM
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157. Ow! Stop hurting them!
I'm enjoying this exchange, I must say. :)

- as
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:34 PM
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175. Heh - sometimes they make it all too easy.
:-)

:hi:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #145
160. Oh Those Pesky Hillary Supporters! How DARE They Ask For Proof!
or anything like it!
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:02 AM
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216. Oh, you're right.
Let's all go back to speculating about whether Obama's a Black Panther or a Muslim.

Got any good Newsmax links?

- as
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:54 AM
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242. I Hate Newsmax, And Would Never Use Them As A Source,
and I don't care to speculate on Obama either.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #101
151. Shades of "TRAVELGATE"? Just another reminder to people who
aren't sure about Hillary's honesty. It just brings back to life, the perception that she'll do anything to get ahead. Even if proven untrue, some will still believe it, because it's Hillary and she has a well established M.O.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:28 PM
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155. Where is the proof?
No links no nothing. Just a rush limbaugh ditto head starting rumors. You people are going to get a real wake up call when NOBAMA loses to an old dementia laden 72 year old man. NOBAMA will never make it to the WH and you can bank on that! He has stirred up so much shit since he started running the American people are going to reject his lying racist ass like maggots on a dead animal.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:31 PM
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163. Shhh. We're Not Supposed To Ask For Any (nt)
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:37 PM
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181. "his lying racist ass like maggots on a dead animal" - Your fellow HRC supporter above posted that.
Are you proud of that kind of slur against a Democratic candidate for president?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #181
193. No, But I'm Still Waiting For A Link To Substantiate This "Story" (nt)
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #181
218. Yeah, that one alternates
between nasty, insulting, borderline-racist posts and being all apologetic and promising not to be so bad.

Hateful and vicious, but still interesting to watch.

- as
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:06 AM
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217. There it is!
Another racist post. I knew you wouldn't disappoint.

Okay, now it's time for the regretful 'I gotta stop being so bad' post.

You're bi-polar, aren't you?

- as

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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #155
256. You should be ashamed of yourself
Really, really ashamed although I doubt you have the good grace for that.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #71
95. Yeah, Except KO's Indignation Is AIMED At Hypocrisy
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:14 PM
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106. Whatever, Mr. "I'd vote for Gerald Ford".
Like your conservative opinion is worth SHIT.

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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:35 PM
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179. I guess that's why right wing "Dems" dislike him so much.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:10 PM
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90. Spreading rumors = O'Reilly.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #90
102. Peddling falsehoods = HRC booster in GD: P.
n/t.
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 PM
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55. Hillary Rodham Nixon. Has a ring to it. (nt)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:53 PM
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198. IMMATURE
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #198
206. Yes, yes it is. (nt)
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:03 PM
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58. Hillary Milhouse Clinton n/t
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:45 AM
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222. good one!
:rofl:
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:04 PM
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63. Holy crap.
I really, really didn't want to believe there could be any link, though I am not a Hillary supporter. I don't really know what to believe about this and I guess I'll be waiting for more information, as KO just talked about before his show ended just now...

If, and only IF the Clinton campaign had anything to do with this, that is DAMN low. I hope that isn't the case though, seriously. I expect this crap of the current administration. I don't want to imagine that a potential future administration could go the same damned route. Here's hoping this is cleared up and more info comes to light. If it's really true, this is completely unacceptable.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:04 PM
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66. that's why I support a full investigation into this
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #66
87. Completely agreed.
I'm still stunned at this. What balls, seriously. Whoever did this had big brass ones, but wow...
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:04 PM
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67. KABOOOOOOOM!!!!! That was the sound of Clinton's campaign DESTROYING ITSELF.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:05 PM
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70. would that explain why Larry Johnson, Clinton supporter, was downplaying this story?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #70
191. I heard Larry on Anderson cooper
he was the first person Anderson spoke to (over the phone) and larry sounded out of breath and excited - I don't know if ths is how he sounds normally as I haven't heard him speak before.

but practically the first words out of his mouth were - No big deal, nothng to see here (paraphrase)

my antennae went up instantly.

plus, Anderson did not say anything about Larry being a Clinton supporter/spokesperson. I thought they were now required to identity partisan speakers.
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damndude Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:00 PM
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205. as was lawrence eagleberger
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:33 AM
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220. he quickly blamed it on the Repukes
of course he is doing damage control
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:06 PM
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73. If true, she needs to excommunicated from the party. Period.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:07 PM
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79. It could be freelancing
someone wants to help HRC out a bit, runs some silly risks...
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:07 PM
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76. and to think that some people still want Hillary to be president
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:07 PM
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77. The Clintons Wouldn't Be Involved In This...
As far as I know.


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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #77
86. LOL!
:rofl:

:thumbsup:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #77
113. Oh, that had to hurt.
:D

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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:07 PM
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80. WTF
...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:08 PM
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81. Let's not jump to conclusions, though. She could just be an idiot.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:09 PM
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88. Alright.. you guys know how much I'd love this to mean something, but really.. does it
mean anything? She wasn't the one who hacked the passport file, right? So, they're saying she basically covered it up.. was she the one who knew about it this whole time..? I'm just not making the connection.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #88
94. The point is to investigate
it may, ultimately, all be nothing. But there are leads and there are leads.

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #88
105. If you believe that the breaches were idle curiosity, and that the decision
to fire the first contractor without notifying higher-ups was just because it was no big deal, then this woman is just a piss-poor manager (before she retired). I happen to believe that since the files were breached after his Iowa win, and he was never notified of that first breach, and it was swept under the rug, until a second and third breach occurred with NO investigation of any kind, well...you believe what you want. I don't know about Hillary's involvement, but I do believe it was of course politically motivated.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #105
167. OK.. I see what you're saying. That's what I was trying to figure out is if she
was the one who didn't notify anyone.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #88
112. She could have asked them.
Hell, she was a superior - she could have ordered them.

And her untimely departure could have been an effort to shield herself, since the IG can no longer interview her about it if she's not an employee.

I was only half-joking about Clinton involvement earlier. The fact that I could actually be right scares me.

- as
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #88
214. There will be much ado about potentially nothing. In that we'll likely never get a firm answer.
alas....
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:10 PM
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91. Keith is a lying hack
Maura Harty (born c. 1959) is the current United States Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of Consular Affairs, a post she has held since 21 November 2002. She is a career Foreign Service Officer, though the Assistant Secretary position is a presidential appointment. In November 2007, Harty announced that she will resign the Assistant Secretary position and retire from the Foreign Service in February 2008.

Harty is a native of Staten Island, New York. She graduated from New Dorp High School in 1977, where she was elected "Most Likely to Succeed" and "Class Citizen". Harty received her bachelor's degree at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service, where she was a member of the Mu Alpha chapter of the service fraternity Alpha Phi Omega. She began her career with the Department of State in 1981 as a vice-consul in Mexico City, Mexico.

Harty went on to serve several tours in Washington, DC, including tours as special assistant to Secretary of State George Shultz, executive assistant to Warren Christopher, and Executive Secretary of the Department. She served abroad as the U.S. Ambassador to Paraguay from 1997 to 1999.

During her tenure as Assistant Secretary, Harty has overseen the introduction of new security regulations in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks. In her position, she serves as primary liaison within the Department of State and the Department of Homeland Security's Customs and Border Patrol and Citizenship and Immigration Services on security and visa issues.

she is a career service officer. Shame on him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Harty
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #91
117. And this makes her a Clinton operative how?
This should be interesting. Thanks for the info.


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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #91
134. Wow...thank you for this....This person is NOT a political appointee, but career person. Can you
please make this into your own thread so we can K&R?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:31 PM
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162. I already made such an OP
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #134
210. The problem is most Obama supporters don't know
what the state department is - much less a career service officer.
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #91
156. It's right there in your post...
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:30 PM by Zueda
"She served abroad as the U.S. Ambassador to Paraguay from 1997 to 1999."

She was made ambassador to Paraguay by Bill Clinton. Sounds like a loyalty reward position.


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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:42 AM
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221. No it isn't
as anyone with a passing knowledge of our government would know. Career diplomats don't get ambassadorships out of currying political favor. They get them by rising in the ranks of the foreign service. That is how Wilson got to be ambassador to Iraq.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:39 AM
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227. Or how Victor Ashe got to be Ambassador to Poland
after being a (R) mayor of Knoxville, TN.

lolz
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:17 AM
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244. Ashe was a political appointee
as was Hormel and Harriman. Both parties do that and both parties also promote careerists to some ambassadorships. Mostly ones no one really would want such as Paraguay.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:11 PM
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:12 PM
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97. A truly wonderful first post
.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:13 PM
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100. don't worry, they disrupted poorly.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:16 PM
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114. That Has To Tie A Record
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:24 PM
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138. i hope i beetlejuiced that tsing----
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:20 PM
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124. yes, actually it was.......n/t
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:24 PM
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139. Why? As smack-talk goes it was sad-ass.
It was punk-ass. My mas spits better shiz than that.
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:32 PM
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169. Jeeze Louise, one post and gone! LOL.
n/t.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:11 PM
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93. Anyone have a substantial link backing this up?
It's interesting, but heading toward conjecture.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:18 PM
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118. *Crickets*
Guess you'll have to wait a while.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:37 PM
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184. *Crickets" Part II (nt)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:13 PM
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:19 PM
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119. You can't possibly be this stupid. You've heard of conflict of interest, right?
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:19 PM by Zhade
Bill Clinton is one big walking CoI for his wife's campaign.

This may have been done by someone HE APPOINTED.

You must have the basic sense of a 3rd grader to understand this, right?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:20 PM
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #125
148. The word was that she was appointed by Bill.
That's a closer association, don't ya think?
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:22 PM
Original message
She works for the bush administration now......
you do have the basic sense of a box of rocks, right?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:28 PM
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159. And worked with Warren Christopher previously.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:19 PM
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121. His supporters are just fuckin NUTS!
Can you imagine HIM in the WH?? Nut cases like I've never seen before. They make the freepers look sane.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:22 PM
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132. And what are you? Fucking smart?
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #132
137. Obviously smart enough to know she is now an employee of the
bush administration.

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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #137
141. Who hired her to her position in the first place?
And you would not be any smart if you thought all the state department employees were rethugs. Get a grip!
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:31 PM
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164. so what? she works for the bush administration now. n/t
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:33 PM
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171. Your logic is just stunning!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:33 PM
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170. She was appointed to this position by George W. Bush, she is career FS
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:35 PM
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176. same difference..........n/t
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #132
140. Obviously smart enough to know she is now an employee of the
bush administration.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #132
173. I'm smart enough to think for myself
and not be led into a cult with a bunch of nut cases.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #132
192. pretty smart she is. YOU are trying to blame Hillary. silly
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #99
161. nice name calling
"can't have it both ways"
wtf are you talking about?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:34 PM
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174. Their true nature comes out under duress, does it not?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:41 PM
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188. beyond the pale!!
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:14 PM
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107. Excuse me, I am going outside to vomit behind some palm trees.
This is sickening.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #107
129. Feel better now. Whoever saw KO belt it out, knows it was fast but linked to Clinton.
It was fast. Clinton ties.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:35 PM
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177. There are no "Clinton ties," anymore than Bush ties
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:39 PM
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187. Did you see KO's statements? He bundled it up. Fast. Just sayin'.
Edited on Thu Mar-20-08 10:41 PM by Neshanic
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:55 PM
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200. Do youlisten to facts or what some talking head on TV says for ratings?
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:14 PM
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109. 15 minute stampede on GD:P.

This may be a record for rushing to judgment. Thank God for anonymity.

:sarcasm:
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:19 PM
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122. A Hillbot involved?
Boy, couldn't see that coming.:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:20 PM
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126. No....a bush employee. n/t
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #126
133. Ambassador under Clinton, works under Bush, also the other Bush and Reagan
But it was Clinton that made her an Ambassador
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:26 PM
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150. So? n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:21 PM
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:38 PM
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186. agree, this name calling is pathitic
inferiority complex maybe?
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:24 PM
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142. Two Career Civil Servants With Ties To The Clintons - No Meat Yet...
As far as I know.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #130
152. What, are you getting paid for damage control?
lol.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:22 PM
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131. ....
:wow:
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #131
146. Guys let's wait for more information before we point fingers
This will be all over the news tomarrow...
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:25 PM
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144. wow IF the Clintons were behind this....
I think we can say goodbye to Hillary for good. That would be lower than low.

I still don't know if I believe they really were though. Hopefully we find out soon.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:25 PM
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147. Maura Harty is a career FS employee appointed by George W. Bush to her position
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #147
153. And was appointed to a previous position by Bill.
Not mutually exclusive.

But your link mentions that she worked with Warren Christopher. :think:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:35 PM
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178. She was an Ambassador to Paraguay 9 years ago..
The woman has worked for several administrations..

Put the knives down. It isn't gonna fly. You should all contact Olberman with an e-mail telling him how stupid he is for raising your blood pressure to the boiling point before he know all the facts!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #178
190. One of them Bills'.
All I'm saying. :shrug:

We'll wait for the results of the investigation together.

And just a reminder, when you say that your campaign is going to "throw the kitchen sink," said campaign loses the moral high ground. It's as simple as that.

:hi:
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #178
199. Yep. You nailed it.
The sweetest job she ever had in her life. And who does she owe it all to? The Clintons.
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Europeanblogger Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:55 PM
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202. So why doesn't the OP call her a "Bush person" rather than a "Clinton person",
If your only fucking tie to Clinton is a post in a far-away country a decade ago, while her link to bush is that she works for him
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:32 PM
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168. Yup, Clinton's name not even mentioned...She's worked for Bush for the last 8yrs..
Wow.. Olberman takes the Obamamamites over the cliff on this one.

I hope he has the common courtesy to apologize and so does Sen Obama.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:55 PM
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201. KO set the Obamafolks into a little tizzy. Wonder if they will apologize??
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:04 PM
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208. When was the last time you apologized for some of your posts on DU?
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:46 AM
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234.  n/t
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:27 PM
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154. She started her Dep of State career in 1981 according to the Wiki link upthread
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:41 PM
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189. If the Clinton's were behind it wouldn't it make a lot more sense for
their person to take it once rather than have multiple peaks?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:58 AM
Response to Reply #189
223. Depends on what's in the file.
Maybe it's huge.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:52 PM
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196. Sibel has said the State Department is corrupt.
Pretty much indicates she is accurate.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:59 PM
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204. People please. There is NO EVIDENCE for a Clinton connection at this time.
Really there's no evidence of a political connection at all (though it certainly smells like one)

But, regardless:
1. Maura Harty apparently retired last month

2. It is very unlikely that these breaches were reported to her level in the chain of command until yesterday or today.

The only thing we know so far is that these incidents were not reported up as they should have been, and continued to occur in the meantime (as if that weren't bad enough).

Let's not get hysterical here.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:06 PM
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209. You can't spell Hypocrisy without an "H".
Nor Hillary.

Coincidence?

I think not.

This "win at all costs" shit she is involved in now is bad for the Democratic party, she needs to drop out of the race.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #209
249. And you can't spell "Bulls**t" without a "B".
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 11:18 PM
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211. LOL! Some of you guys really sound like full-blown tin-foil hatters...
You know, once you start the everything-is-Clinton's-fault stuff without evidence, it all becomes noise. And it makes me want to support Team Clinton even more strongly.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 12:24 AM
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219. He's an idiot.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:34 AM
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225. I'm definitely not surprised. n/t
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:37 AM
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226. Hmmmmm
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:08 AM
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228. First Eliot, then Hillary,
Tough week for NY.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:40 AM
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230. Hillary Nixon... has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:43 AM
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232. Don't tell me KO accused Hillary of stealing Obama's passport.
I have to see this....
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:40 AM
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235. wow...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:45 AM
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236. Y'all, Dick Morris is a former "Clinton person"
It doesn't mean shit until she's linked to Hillary's campaign. Don't shoot your wads just yet.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:25 AM
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247. So is George Tenet n/t
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:41 AM
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238. People, people, people! Don't you realize that all accusations against the Clintons are bullshit?
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 05:42 AM by Perry Logan
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:51 AM
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239. Typical feeding frenzy by the O people.. No facts, feeding on their own spin..
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 05:53 AM by Tellurian
35 recds on baseless spin.
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Echotrail Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:10 AM
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241. Ish. n/t
.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:29 AM
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251. A Danny Noriega fan? :)
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:02 AM
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243. K.O. has gone over the deep end....
we really need to write to CNN and suggest that he be given a vacation. One where he can get a good psychiatric evaluation.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:27 AM
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248. Security breaches are serious and especially serious in our goverment
It's actually causing alarm for the government in other instances through the use of networks. When a contractor has access to Obama's personal information, you bet there are alarms going off. And we need to get to the bottom of this.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:24 AM
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246. I can't believe how many Democrats here are so willing to believe that a
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 07:29 AM by WinkyDink
candidate from our Party and/or a former Democratic President would perpetrate, effect, or condone this criminal act.

IF the evidence shows this assumption to be fact, so be it. But it's the ASSUMPTION itself here, with no proof, that I find dismaying, to say the least.

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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:30 AM
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253. The thing is only a night old. Jeez, some people are writing this off . Crazy.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 07:30 AM
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252. Shuster, What A Surprise
He must still be pissed for being suspended because of his own STUPID/SEXIST comments. What, he thinks this is payback? If he thinks a suspension is bad, well . . .

Keith, you should know better. You could be next.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:08 AM
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254. "connection is tenuous but fascinating" - always enough to smear Clintons
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 08:10 AM by robbedvoter
MSGOP is doing to KO what W did to Powell: squeezing the last ounce of credibility out of him. By the time GE rolls in , he will be officially a clown to all.:+
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:11 AM
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255. I'd Call This Whole Thing "Shuster's Revenge"
That little bastard must be pissed!
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:20 AM
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257. If it's proven the Clintons are behind this
her campaign is over and she should resign her senate seat as well.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:37 AM
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259. nothing but Rovian Whispering at this point--helped along by DU
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:55 AM
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261. Understood
Please note I said "if". Although I see many of Sen Obama supporters all too willing to gleefully pass along any dirt. Someone should explain that unity thing to these morons.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:28 AM
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258. Is this in the MSM?
the fact it is linked to Clinton?
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