I have an idea!

[Tim4319]

How about this? Those lazy TV and radio personalities get up out of their cushy studios, and go down to Chicago, New York, LA, Atlanta, Philly, Newark, Trenton, Houston, and so on, and get the perspective of the people from the inner cities! Listen to what they have to say about walking down the street and hearing a white person suddenly lock the doors on their car. Having a white person step off of the elevator when a black person get on. Having a white women call the police on you, accusing you of attempting to break in one car, while sitting in your own car! I have personally experienced all of these acts, plus more!

I challenge them to get up out of their studios and do some real investigative reporting. Instead of these slanted interviews that uses a person who knows nothing about an inner city black person and the realities they go through. Understand why majority of the black community can relate to what Rev. Wright said.

[Cant trust em]

1. What a great post.

You have my rec, sir.

[Tim4319]

2. Thank you for the kind words!

[hedgehog]

3. But those wouldn't be typical white people now, would they?

To make myself clear, I am floored by the commentators who are shocked and insulted when a black person suggests that whites fear black males. Hello - ever hear of Willie Horton? That said, I agree with Senator Obama that this is all a distraction from the real problems facing ALL of us.

[Tim4319]

4. So true!

[mac2]

5. Heck we get treated somewhat like that....

It's because we don't have children or a dog. We must be child molesters or haters. They are always spying and harassing us telling us to move.

Somehow they feel they have a right. Especially after the Pope stated that childless couples are selfish. Forget he has none or there may be reasons which are none of their business.

As a black person you know this has been discussed many times over. You didn't need Rev.Wright to deliver these problems to the country on the tails of the Obama campaign. Reverend is not running for public office. He's spiritual leader...and not mine.

[Cant trust em]

7. What a dumb statement by the Pope.

I would be more likely to argue that people who have more than one child to be selfish. It's not like we're having a population crisis.

[mac2]

15. It was in the Chicago Tribune

[mac2]

20. Here is one post about the Pope and child free couples.

there are many. http://www.topix.com/forum/news/weather/T4CPCIKIMGGQ1ARC9

[Tim4319]

10. I hear you on that.

But, Obama did not release any tapes of Rev. Wright's speech. He had no control over them getting released. But, I believe, instead of knocking Rev. Wright for his words, investigate why he and many of us feel this way.

These feelings are not going to go anywhere. The more America tries to sweep it under a rug, the worst the reaction will be every time black America feel we have been treated unjustly.

[mac2]

17. Rev. Wright was right about 911 and this administration but he is not a politician

and does not belong in the public spotlight of Obama's campaign.

I heard Rev. Farrakhan say the same things during rallies and on CSPAN many times. He knew right after 911. Many of us did knowing of the DC politicians wish to go to war against Iraq. They've been pushing for it since Clinton. Clinton refused to do it so they punished him. He also had the Patriot Act on his desk but refused to sign it (or so I read). That huge document didn't just appear out of no where when needed after 911.

If Rev. Wright is so concerned about his country, he should join the other religious organizations in this country (off all races) who are upset over the poverty, Iraq war, and 911, etc.

President Bush gave a "I'm glad I did it and we are winning" speech to a generic religious group on CSPAN yesterday. They all clapped. Almost all religious groups have come forward protesting this President's attack on the Middle East and the torture issue. What a religious leader think killing people is a good thing? Those who are getting Faith Based Funding might not...but I suspect it was a bogus group created for TV.

Bush uses Faith Based Funding (religious cronyism) to silence the voices of the black community. Are any of them talking about that?

[Tribetime]

6. they all think they somehow anyone who works as

hard as them or goes to college will get a cushy job. If they struggle, they must of done something wrong....It's like "I got mine screw everyone else" K&R

[mac2]

18. There are many college graduates who don't find good jobs

in our society today. I know some of them. Highly educated and skilled ones too...and white males. Need I say the problems of white females with many skills are left out too?

Only the "special RW college graduates" and people belonging to select RW organizations (Heritage, Bob Jones, Liberty University, etc.) are being hiring in the federal government...under Bush.

We are fighting over the crumbs of a few good jobs left in America blaming each other for our lack of "getting ours". Yes...they divide us to conquer.

[ms liberty]

8. K&R: A most excellent rebuttal. n/t

[Cant trust em]

9. Middle America doesn't care about the inner city

I guess they'd just rather go about their lives and pretend that poverty, inequality and racism don't exist. They can just sit at home in their big suburban house with their 2 1/3 children, their SUV and their chocolate lab.

[hedgehog]

11. It's a little more complex than that. People tend to discount luck and attribute

all their successes to their own hard work. If they admit for one second that there are hard working people in this country who just can't get ahead, they admit that their own life could go to hell in a hand basket for no good reason at any time.

[SharonAnn]

12. If they succeed, it's their hard work. If they fail, it's bad luck. Perception!

[hedgehog]

13. But if the other guy fails, it's because he's a lazy bum!

[mac2]

19. There are plenty of hard working Americans who are not

seeing the fruit of their labor in all races under this mismanaged administration.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

14. OP: Great idea but...

the thing is... most of the white reporters already know it is true because they have either done it or been present when someone else has...

Same goes for many of the general populous. They know they have been discriminatory a time or two, regardless how much they protest it. That is why Obama's speech was so successful. He let them know that he realizes there are prejudices and that people cannot be blamed for having been that way, but we must all work together to overcome it.

The white folks got the message and realized they were wrong for being prejudiced and accepted the door being opened to discuss it and deal with it. It occurred to me after discussing this issue with some prejudiced people that they wanted that door to open. They needed to hear those words being spoken. His speech should enable the final page to be written of what Martin was working toward.

And yes, I know there will always be some who will not let go of their racism. It is wise to know the difference between the two. A prejudiced person can overcome their own fears which contribute to the beast. A racist horse will only drink when he is dying of thirst. At least the prejudiced have finally found the water.

[mac2]

16. The success of Obama's speech is not that he said it

but if people will do it. Discrimination is a two way street. It is not just "white men".

The separation of races may divide us even more since we have lost our good jobs (globalization and privitization). DC with their large Afro-American population had many Federal Civil Service jobs. Their jobs are being "off shored". Yes...it's a security problem and bad for government since it fails to function at all.

With our huge debt and loss of jobs I can only see more "fighting over the crumbs" of what is left. You can lecture people all you want. It ain't going to come true just because some politican gave a great speech about it.

A FEMA contractor imported 500 workers from India to do repairs in New Orleans. Those workers are so abused and under paid, they figured they are just slaves. They decided to march to DC to protest. Guess they saw that in the movies...about union protest. It is America where workers have some say...emm used to anyway.

All workers regardless of race or country will find DC just doesn't care about you. If they did the workers of New Orleans would have your jobs. The rebuilding of New Orleans would not be taking place at all.

The few elite rule and some of them are of every race and religion. Almost all give Bush what he wants.

As Howard Zinn says...they divide us to rule.