Clinton Supporters: Should we leave DU? Because of the lack of intellectual awareness

[Captain_Nemo]

of sexism in our culture and the constant jabs at Clinton?

[Atman]

1. I think I'm gonna puke.

oops...too late...

:puke:

.

[YOY]

5. Yeah...it's one of those "If you don't support her you are a sexist FReep" posts.

Raises my hackles as well.

[Metric System]

50. Yes, because freepers are deeply concerned about sexism.

[YOY]

57. So I'm a FReeper and/or sexist, huh?

:spray:

[Life Long Dem]

117. Wonder Woman?

You wouldn't be behaving like the Amazon woman you are if you can't handle the heat. Stick it out, the winner will be chosen soon. They say this is good for the candidates anyway, or Obama anyway. K...

[Fredda Weinberg]

2. Silly season will end n/t

[thewiseguy]

3. Yes your intellectual awareness is just way too much for DU

[Coexist]

4. is this a strike?

[pocoloco]

6. If you did a bit more studying, reading, and fact finding

I am sure you would be able to increase your intellectual awareness!

It wouldn't be that hard!

[Christa]

14. You beat me to it.

Why call intellectual dishonesty a lack of intellectual awareness?

[against all enemies]

7. Just because you lack intellectual awareness you don't have to leave.

Stay around, you'll start to get it.

[displacedtexan]

8. No. After the primary, we need everyone working to defeat McCain.

Keep your eyes on the Nov. 4th prize!

[JohnnyLib2]

9. Go to station 5, usual time, contact will be made.

Codeword: Chelsea

[Hugabear]

10. Yes, by all means

If you think it's bad now, among fellow Democrats and progressives, I shudder to think how you would handle the campaign against McCain, rethugs, and freepers.

And please get rid of this "sexist" meme. Just because we don't all support Hillary's Manifest Destiny, doesn't make us out to be sexist.

[uberblonde]

15. But we're all racist, right?

Didn't Obama's speech turn it to an either/or - "accept racism, or vote for me"?

[Hugabear]

20. I didn't see it that way

But if that's how you took it, then I guess to each their own. People tend to take out of speeches what they want to hear.

[crispini]

21. Is that all you got out of his speech?

I hope you're kidding. o.O

[redstate_democrat]

11. Yes leave

because it is YOU and her other supporters who lack intellectual awareness and spread hateful racist and bigoted memes straight from Sean Hannity and other retards.

Beat it.

[Captain_Nemo]

67. Your use of the word retard is shameful.

[uberblonde]

12. It's an exercise in futility.

If you address most Obama supporters with logic, they simply change the question. They have an EMOTIONAL need for their candidate to be perfect, and they can't tolerate sacrilege.

[Hepburn]

13. Your ride is here....

...



Bu-bye.....:hi:

[Hugabear]

22. I think this is what you meant...

[Hepburn]

28. Oooooooooh, I like that....

...may I borrow it now and then!

Thanks....:hi:

[Hugabear]

30. Sure

I just pulled it off Google.

[Hepburn]

35. Here are some more...

:hi:

[Armstead]

16. Sorry. I lack the intellectual awareness to understand your post

But I'm not a Hillary supporter, so that automatically makes me sexist and stupid I guess.

[bunnies]

46. *snort*

:thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

17. Who would the Obamafolks have to Bully? --maybe they will eat themselves?

[Hugabear]

26. Funny, seems we were all getting along fairly well until Hillary supporters started attacking

Wasn't it you folks who started much of this with the whole "if you don't support Hillary then you're sexist" attitude, and then openly mocking Obama for having a vision, and wanting to bring hope and change to the White House?

[Captain_Nemo]

61. There's other places to post where people talk about the issues.

[jlake]

111. They'd start attacking the weakest supporters until all that were left were the

"true believers"

[Occam Bandage]

18. Go ahead.

[NavyDavy]

19. maybe DU should just adopt "do unto others" rule......for supporters

of both HRC and BO argue facts not feelings....

[mmonk]

23. I don't know if you should or not.

I'll ask all us dumb sexists and get back with you.:sarcasm:

[krawhitham]

24. Yes you should

start your own site

see it hillbots.com is available

or maybe we_deny_facts.com

[The Straight Story]

25. You and Obama supporters should both leave, ya make the dungeon look rational

:)

[SidDithers]

27. Well, you could...nt

Sid

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[NRaleighLiberal]

31. Look into the Mirror! NT

[Kittycat]

32. My Daily Denial would love to have you.

They celebrate in the sharing of RW smears and talking points. Hannity, Drudge & Newsmax are praised as legitimate sources.

[K Gardner]

33. With the racist, vile garbage I've seen here posted by Clinton Supporters, I'd say yes.

[Crunchy Frog]

34. Yes, I think you should. n/t

[ORDem]

36. You should leave, take a remedial math course, then return. n/t

[Mz Pip]

37. Probably,

if you believe those who don't support Clinton are somehow intellectually inferior to you you should probably find a place that is populated by your intellectual equals. :eyes:

[kid a]

38. 2+2=5

[XemaSab]

112. Now I've got that song in my head

:banghead:

[stevietheman]

39. As far as I can tell, all the smartest posters are in Obama's camp. n/t

n/t

[JBoy]

40. That would be nice, because with you gone

The sky will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and the world will be perfect.

[bowens43]

41. The jabs at clinton have nothing to do with sexism

and you trying to spin it into that makes you look foolish.

Yes, you should leave right now.

[shadowknows69]

42. Yes you should

[MojoMojoMojo]

43. The censorship here is biased favoring Obama.Ive had 2 relevant threads locked

[Dinger]

48. I Know Of

some Hillary supporters who have heard from mods asking them to back off Obama.
I'm sure this will be gone, but at least some will see it, and it is a FACT. HAve any of the Obama supporters been
contacted like this and asked to "back off" Hillary?

[HCE SuiGeneris]

96. Relevant to what?

[Change has come]

104. Does this mean you'll be leaving too?

:hi:

[Az_lefty]

44. So, pointing out Clinton's bullshit is sexist? That's pretty lame...

[rniel]

I say yes

please leave. Start your own DLC website where you urge democrats to mirror republicans.

[Dinger]

45. No, Stay Here And Support Her

Never give up!

[Basement Beat]

49. At the end of the day...

Aren't we all on the same team?

[Tom Rinaldo]

51. No. Not unless you personally feel you have to. n/t

[rucky]

52. Obama supporter, here. Can we try something else, first?

Can we agree that most of the real nasty shit on this board comes from about 10% of the supporters from both candidates?

How about this: We keep our disruptors in check, and you keep your disruptors in check, and maybe the sane and reasonable people can take our board back.

:shrug:

[Dinger]

56. I Concur rucky (nt)

[JackORoses]

53. Yes, please.

[toys4kitty]

54. As I am lacking in intellectual awareness

Would you please let me know how this post relates with teh demographics polls up to this point where Obama gets more of the "educated" votes and Clinton gets more of the 'not as educated'? (that was my own attempt to try to be nice to the less educated, but as I lack in smarts... who knows if it worked.)

Damn- I'm not sure that I even exist at this point.
I'm from a 'boutique state'
My state held a caucus
and now I lack intellectual awareness.

3 strikes, I'm out. I guess I have to go re-register as a republican?

:cry:

[Uncle Joe]

55. Don't forget to send us postcards from your worldly travels, so we can grow .

our intellectual awareness and when you find that land of non-sexism, non-racism, non-homophobia, non-regionalism, non-corporatism, non-Big Brotherism and where it's illegal to criticize Clinton, send us the address so we can visit.

[donheld]

58. Oh get a grip

Just because we don't like Hillary doesn't mean we don't like women.

[L0oniX]

59. Here's some help for ya...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBhIlt5gk10

[JoFerret]

60. Acquiesce in cleansing you mean?

this too will pass.

[grantcart]

62. especially since they want to concentrate on sexist mathematics

[mkultra]

63. Please, dont go away mad.

[DefenseLawyer]

64. There is nothing more entertaining

than a dramatic farewell from DU. Goodbye cruel world!

[Egnever]

65. Please do

take the lying piece of crap candidate you support with you too please

[Captain_Nemo]

66. You should all be ashamed. (Except for rodeodance)

[Egnever]

69. of what?

Wanting people who support a candidate with no shot at the nod that damages or tries to damage our nominee daily to get lost?

You should be ashamed of your divisive leader. She needs to go yesterday or if she stays she needs to lay off the politics of destruction. If her campaign was promoting her instead of trying to tear Obama down I would welcome her to continue but sadly Hukabee showed more class than she does.

[CatnHat]

106. Obama is

tearing himself down; and taking the democratic party with him.

. . and as far as Bill Richardson; all I can say is "with friends like that, who needs enemies" :puke:

[mkultra]

77. looks like wonderwoman flew here jet to Htrae

http://bp3.blogger.com/_EdoQZaiGj-g/RkYbAgN1f5I/AAAAAAAAAB8/Q4zBH5iWKng/s320/bw2.bmp

[JVS]

68. don't let the door hit you

:hi:

[grantcart]

70. When you say 'leave' do you mean on a metaphysical, ontologoical, epistomological

or existential basis?

[anonymous171]

71. What, can't Hillary take a punch? She's a fighter after all.

Isn't that her platform? Sorry Clinton doesn't have the netroot's support.

[tammywammy]

72. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5197426

[Catherina]

73. I recommend DAILY KOS n/t

[kerry-is-my-prez]

74. "Ferraro: dried-up vagina" "Ferraro's cootch." "piss on her (Hillary)"

That was some of the comments from just one thread - so I have to say - I might agree with you.

[OzarkDem]

88. Obama supporters are disgusting sexists

Do they realize how badly that kind of talk makes their candidate look?

[BenDavid]

75. well, I say stay and fight em and remember HRC supporters,

we cannot take away peoples rights to be assholes.

[EFerrari]

76. As a feminist with a degree in Women's Studies who has been called out

as a misogynist by you people, I think you might do well to go on a retreat to meditate on the fact that insulting, whining and browbeating aren't consciousness raising tools.

eta:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

87. I guess you need to take a few more classes....

If someone called you a misogynist - I don't think too much is sinking in....

[CarbonDate]

115. I know, right? Where does a feminist get off....

...supporting someone other than Hillary? How dare they?!

[EFerrari]

124. Damn my brain! It keeps attending to shared reality.

:rofl:

[saltpoint]

78. Hillary the victim! Victimized by Obama-loving sexist pigs!

Raped in cyberspace!

The horror!

The horror!

[EFerrari]

82. Again with the pigs!

:rofl:

[saltpoint]

84. _ _ _ - - - _ _ _ - - -

:hi:

Gotta say, Miss Piggy is looking quite fetching in that alluring agrarian pose.

Although at the same time, it kind of looks like John Sununu in drag...

[EFerrari]

85. If we're gonna be called out, it might as well be in a pastoral setting.

[saltpoint]

86. LOL! Great image there -- I'm assuming that's a shot of the Clintons'

Iowa team... ?

The youngun up front with the blade... "Mark Penn -- the Early Years!"

[democrattotheend]

79. I don't think you should leave DU

And I don't think it's as imbalanced as you say it is. There may be more Obama supporters than Clinton supporters here, but you guys are loud and proud and you make it interesting. I kind of like having DailyKos as a haven for Obama supporters, but sometimes it gets boring. I like having a mix here. So I for one hope you guys don't decide to leave.

[Ysabel]

80. after only 15 days...

- wow you're really dedicated...

p.s. sarc...

[grantcart]

92. nice catch

[saltpoint]

81. If you need a ride to the bus station, ring me up.

[crankychatter]

83. Of Course not...

You should register Republican

it would be an epiphany for you

Like coming out of the closet

[OzarkDem]

89. Women voters and Clinton supporters are finding other sites

Obama supporters have destroyed the reputations of quite a few Dem forums lately and sane people are moving elsewhere.

MYDD is pretty good right now.

[EFerrari]

91. LOL

I love the drama.

[OzarkDem]

94. Some of us just prefer intelligent discussion

These Obama controlled forums no longer discuss issues. Fortunately, there are still some forums that do, and that also have posters with IQ's over 90.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

97. Don't forget to not vote come the GE!

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1. Obama can't win the GE. I'm not sure I would waste my vote on him. I would probably find something else to do that day.

[OzarkDem]

98. Put down the pipe

step away from the keyboard...

[HCE SuiGeneris]

103. I, unlike you, will not abandon the Democratic nominee...

and my suggestion is to verbally instruct your children. Typing it out on the computer and sending me their instructions is not very efficient.

[EFerrari]

120. Be the change you want. n/t

[anonymous171]

99. B/c women don't vote for Obama, right?

[OzarkDem]

101. Here's why

Dem women don't like it when woman - the most qualified candidate in the race - is being pressured to let the less qualified man win.

Women have seen that happend many times in the workplace and they're very displeased to see it happening now.

Women candidates should not be passed over for less qualified candidates just because they are men.

[anonymous171]

102. There is ABSOLUTELY no qualification (besides being over 35) for the presidency.

[JVS]

105. You gotta be born a citizen too.

[anonymous171]

107. whoops. That too. lol

[OzarkDem]

108. I said better qualified

All candidates are not created equal, especially those running for POTUS. The focus should be on the candidate who is best qualified to serve and they should not be pressured out of the race just because they are a woman.

Disagree if you wish, but the Democratic Party will suffer from the loss of a large part of its base if this happens.

[anonymous171]

109. You're right. They shouldn't be pressurred out solely on the subject of sex.

That's great, because Clinton's being pushed out by her own over aggressive campaign style and secretive nature.

[Iceburg]

119. TaylorMarsh.com -- I highly recommend it. /nt

[JCMach1]

90. No, just GDP

[Awsi Dooger]

93. Everyone is entitled to make a mistake

The Obama supporters have accomplished a tremendous gaffe. I've seen similar in Las Vegas for 20+ years, people who simply don't know how to handicap.

It's no reason to leave DU.

[AgadorSparticus]

95. for real? you think everyone who doesn't like hrc is sexist?

:wow:

:scared:

[fadedrose]

100. I don't know. I have my own problems. nt

[Yes We Did]

110. you should stay... Obama will want your votes too

[CarbonDate]

113. No, please. Don't go. What ever will we do without you?

How will we ever survive? Will we all be forced to coalesce around the front-runner and focus on beating McCain? Horrors....

[quakerboy]

114. Do I sense the beginnings of

DLC Underground? Clinton Underground? Go for it. Diversity is good.

[Iceburg]

116. Yes -- I think there is some merit in joining our brothers and sisters

who have had the good sense to boycott DKOS -- DU is far worse by any yardstick.

[VotesForWomen]

118. no; we need to stay and keep presenting the facts to people. nt

[rug]

121. No. Responding to them is more fun than popping plastic bubble wrap.

http://fun.from.hell.pl/2003-11-24/bubblewrap.swf

[Darth_Kitten]

122. No, I think more Clinton supporters have been around DU longer than Obama supporters.

Most but not all, I think.

[LWolf]

123. No. I don't like Clinton any more than I like Obama,

and I think they are both bad news for the GE and the party as a whole, but I'll be damned if I think the majority should purge the minority ANYWHERE.

Edited to add:

If any purging of one candidate's supporters is to take place, then both HRC and Obama supporters should be purged together, leaving the board much emptier, but perhaps with more substantive discussions.

Or, we could just honor democratic principles and quit trying to purge everyone we don't agree with.