Tropics_Dude83
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:17 PM
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Painful things Hillary Clinton knows or should know |
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From Mark Halperin's Timee Magazine page:
HALPERIN’S TAKE: Painful Things Hillary Clinton Knows — Or Should Know1. She can’t win the nomination without overturning the will of the elected delegates, which will alienate many Democrats.
2. She can’t win the nomination without a bloody convention battle — after which, even if she won, history and many Democrats would cast her as a villain.
3. Catching up in the popular vote is not out of the question — but without re-votes in Florida and Michigan it will be almost as impossible as catching up in elected delegates.
4. Nancy Pelosi and other leading members of Congress don’t think she can win and want her to give up. Same with superdelegate-to-the-stars Donna Brazile.
5. Obama’s skilled, close-knit staff can do things like silently kill re-votes in Florida and Michigan and not pay a political price.
6. Many of her supporters — and even some of her staffers — would be relieved (and even delighted) if she quit the race; none of his supporters or staff feel that way. Some think she just might throw in the towel in June if it appears efforts to fight on would hurt Obama’s general election chances.
7. The Rev. Wright story notwithstanding, the media still wants Obama to be the nominee — and that has an impact every day.
8. Obama might not be able to talk that well about the new global economy, but she (and McCain) can’t either.
9. Many of the remaining prominent superdelegates want to be for Obama and she (and Harold Ickes) are just barely keeping them from making public commitments to him.
10. She can’t publicly say more than 2% of all the things she would like to say about race, electability, beating McCain and experience.
11. If she somehow found a way to win the nomination, she would have to offer Obama the veep slot, and she doesn’t want to do that.
12. This is a change election, and Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton can never truly be change.
13. Obama is having fun most days, and she isn’t.
14. Even though her campaign staff is having more fun than it has for a long time, there’s hardly anyone there who, given half a chance, wouldn’t slit Mark Penn’s throat — and such internal dissension won’t help her in the home stretch.
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:22 PM
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1. Wow. Lays it all out there, doesn't it? Is there a link? |
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:25 PM
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3. Sure http://thepage.time.com/ |
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:29 PM
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8. Here's the direct link |
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Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:41 PM by jgraz
http://qurl.com/82yfbTropics, you should edit your article and add the direct link at the top and/or bottom.
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:39 PM
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11. Weird, that's blank for me |
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:42 PM
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12. Updated -- looks like Time wants the trailing / |
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Elad should really fix that one of these days
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:45 PM
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I wanted to send it around. :D
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:26 PM
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:25 PM
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2. Isn't it great that she can still win the nomination! |
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:28 PM
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6. Did you even READ the article? |
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These days talking to a Clinton supporter is more and more like talking to a Republican. Same denial.
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:29 PM
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9. Please tell me you're missing a sarcasm tag |
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:27 PM
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5. Thanks for posting this |
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As an Obama supporter who hasn't enjoyed this week much at all, it cheers my heart.
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:28 PM
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7. Yes Hillary Clinton could rank up there with Cruella De Ville |
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:31 PM
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10. The main thing she knows is that she promised to FIGHT! |
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Unlike our last two Presidential candidates, who folded their tents and slinked off in the dead of night, Hillary will not quit until she has been officially defeated. Her tenacity and toughness are two of the qualities I most admire in her.
Lots of HRC's enemies are suggesting that she quit the race. Such people obviously do not want to play by the rules that everyone agreed to.
Those rules say the nominee of the Dem Party is the candidate who first accumulates 2025 delegates. Until somebody reaches 2025, the clock is still running and the teams are still on the field.
If NOBODY reaches 2025 delegates, then the ONLY reasonable thing to do is seat the Florida and Michigan delegations. That will put Hillary ahead in EVERY category -- and she will have earned every vote honestly.
At which point, Obama should resign his candidacy for the good of the party, right?
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:48 PM
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...because right now, she's fighting more than half the Democratic party using the remainder of it, and paying little to no attention to the Republicans. Was that who you wanted her to be fighting? Because if so then yeah, she's doing a great job as a fighter bloodying up her own side.
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:46 PM
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14. This is a change election, and Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton can never truly be change. |
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:47 PM
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15. 15. As pointed out in other threads she is not bringing in the money as we were told |
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:50 PM
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7. The Rev. Wright story notwithstanding, the media still wants Obama to be the nominee — and that has an impact every day.
Where does he see that?
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:51 PM
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19. I don't get that either. The media has bashed him relentlessly since before TX/OH. |
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Fri Mar-21-08 01:00 PM
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20. Liberal radio is the answer if they bash it's true. Novamradionetwork.com headonraio.com |
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Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 01:02 PM by cooolandrew
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Fri Mar-21-08 12:50 PM
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18. Exactly even if she managed to get the nod underhand she would ofdestroyed theclinton name forever |
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Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 12:59 PM by cooolandrew
It just doesn't make sense she has nearly half of America negatives. I don't figure why she wants to make that higher she stands to gain more, conceding with honor than winning in disgrace. This would hurt chelsea too what about her future if the Clinton name has no regard left. All very strange.
I mean she has these prayer meetings, the bible says thou shal not steal or covet mypet goat.
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