Obama camp: Clinton would be 'deeply flawed' nominee

[DearAbby]

Obama camp: Clinton would be 'deeply flawed' nominee


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/



(CNN) — The Obama campaign launched some of its sharpest attacks to date on Hillary Clinton's candidacy Friday, telling reporters on a conference call that the New York senator is a dishonest politician who has consistently misled voters.

Referencing a new Gallup Poll suggesting 53 percent of Americans don't view Clinton as trustworthy, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said Clinton would be a "deeply flawed nominee," and suggested it would be "nearly impossible" for her to win a general election. "She is not seen as trustworthy by the American people," Plouffe said. "She has consistently in this campaign engaged in political calculation to mislead voters….It will nearly be impossible to win a general election if more than half the electorate thinks you're untrustworthy."

If Sen. Clinton wants to have a discussion about electability and vetting, we're happy to have it," Plouffe also said. "She would be a deeply flawed nominee. There are char acter issues here that will cause us real problems in the fall."

[writes3000]

1. Yuck. I hate this shit.

He sounds like Mark Penn here (without the ridiculous cherry picking poll gymnastics.)

[Unsane]

5. Without the jowls and flopsweat

[TwilightGardener]

15. There ARE character issues. She lies a lot.

[JoFerret]

30. and he lies down with

dogs and gets up with fleas.

but they are HOLY fleas

[TwilightGardener]

33. Well, that "dog" was invited to the White House to pray with Bill Clinton.

That's quite a well-respected "dog", spreadin' those fleas around Pennsylvania Avenue.

[JoFerret]

34. you were invited to the WH?

by whom? when? for what?

[Drachasor]

26. Look at how many people thinks she is untrustworthy, and how often she has lied?

All indications is that she lies more and the public knows it. That IS a problem.

You bring up Mark Penn, but who does he work for? Clinton! She keeps him there, and decisions like that are what is hurting her.

[SoFlaJet]

2. YOUCH

bout time they started stating the obvious-the Obama camp has been taking hit after hit after hit and driving some of us crazy wondering WHEN they would respond in kind

[JuniperLea]

4. Since when does two wrongs make a right? eom

[JuniperLea]

3. Both camps are getting pretty damn negative...

I thought we were the "better" party.

[KittyWampus]

7. Calling for and insisting on Open Government is positive. The Clintons have serious issues with this

they could never talk about it in the GE.

[DearAbby]

9. I know it may sound tit for tat....

But the Clinton campaign strategy has been down in the gutter lately...

[KittyWampus]

6. Open Government is a Democratic goal. Either live it or answer for NOT living it.

[sudopod]

23. As a nerd, this is one of my favorite things about Obama

For example, he pushed hard to ensure that the debates were released under a Creative Commons license, if I'm remembering correctly.

It's a gnu style of politics. ^_^

[ericgtr]

8. It's about time for Hillary to go on the defense for a while here

if this some how sticks. This is just politics.

[BenDavid]

10. yeah, and obigot's speech tuesday verified that he told a damn

lie and Obigot contradicts a year of denial. Obama said the only thing controversial he knew about Rev. Wright was his stand on issues relating to Africa, abortion and gay marriage. …

Obigot's initial reaction to the initial ABC News broadcast of Rev. Wright’s sermons denouncing the U.S. was that he had never heard his pastor of 20 years make any comments that were anti-U.S. until the tape was played on air.

But Tuesday, he told a different story. “Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes,” he said in his speech Tuesday in Philadelphia.

and the whoremedia side steps this part so they can tell all that buys into this bs that obigot's sppech was better then Jesus' sermon on the mount.

[pocoloco]

13. well old wise one with the big ears tell us exactly what these

remarks were that you seem so sure that Obama heard and that you seem to have first hand knowledge of.

[Drachasor]

28. I don't see a contradiction there; that's entirely consistent

Wright's stances on those issues you named could be considered controversial.

[leftofcool]

11. pot kettle black

[olkaz]

14. I don't see what his race has to do with it.

And kitchen pans? What is going on here?!













j/k

[leftofcool]

19. I am assuming you have nver heard the old adage?

[olkaz]

20. No I never have.

I assume either you don't scroll down, or don't know what j/k means?

[DearAbby]

12. It's time for Hillary to stand aside

for the good of the party. I am hoping the Richardson endorsement is the start. We need to concentrate on the goal, people. Dont fall for this is going to be an easy win...NOTHING has been easy since this nightmare began.

[JoFerret]

16. Prince Obama is PURE I tell you

He can heal the sick and raise the dead.

[leftofcool]

18. Can he cure cancer too?

[sudopod]

25. Nah

but he can state the obvious.

lolz

[TwilightGardener]

17. It will not hurt Obama to attack her on character, because she's been

attacking him on charater repeatedly--saying that he says one thing and does another. Pennsylvanians like a political knife fight, anyway. It's time to shut her down.

[JoFerret]

29. Agreed. Enough of this democracy

Silence the candidate now. wienie knows best.

[TwilightGardener]

31. Thanks for the endorsement! Wienie does know best.

:-)

[DearAbby]

36. It's time to unify

the Clinton campaign is over...best realize this and join together to get a Democrat into the White house...you remember, the ultimate goal.

[bigtree]

44. when you say 'unify' you really mean 'divide' . . .

. . . dump the Clinton campaign over. But, do you have the support of the folks who voted for her? Is really going to be 'with us or against us'? That may be well and good for the folks who post here. We should put up our votes for the nominee in the end, or shut up. But we will still be subject to the effect of folks who voted for Clinton sitting on their hands if the Obama camp doesn't make some outreach, at some point. I think it's foolish arrogance to assume that only Obama voters can feel scorned.


Oh, and, it ain't time yet for any quitting.

[JoFerret]

45. And that is so true. Clinton is the unifier and

Obama the divisive figure. Not universally of course because there are plenty of sane people about.
There is something ironic about the effect the Obama campaign has had on hitherto quite reasonable people.
Before they were pro democratic and had a favorite. Now they are pro Obama and virulently anti Clinton at all costs.

[anonymous171]

21. He isn't going to sit back and take her shit.

Good.

[Karmadillo]

22. Somebody get a shovel! The Unity Pony has taken another dump.

nt

[goletian]

24. TRUTH - nt

[BeyondGeography]

27. Payback for peddling the Pastor

As in, fuck off, Clintonistas.

[MadHound]

32. The truth hurts, and the truth of the matter is that Hillary would do horribly in the generals

And if by some miracle got into the WH, would make a horrible president. Perhaps not as bad as Bush, but bad enough.

[KAZ]

35. That has a tone we could do without. Best not to let anger..

.. get the best of you, and avoid the payback mentality. Whisper these things to the SDs, sure.

[Carrieyazel]

37. And Obama also has critical flaws. We can't win for losing here.

Both would be two of the most flawed nominees we've ever gone with. It doesn't look good.

[Carrieyazel]

38. Delete

[WinkyDink]

39. "She is not seen as trustworthy by the American people." Thanks for the Republican sound-bite.

[cbayer]

40. Responding to this quote from the OP:

"Referencing a new Gallup Poll suggesting 53 percent of Americans don't view Clinton as trustworthy", I suspect he was referring to (actually reframing in more negative terms) Clinton's unfavorable rating in most recent Gallup poll. He forgot to mention that Obama's was 49%. That's not a statistically significant difference.

[DearAbby]

42. I dont see a problem with Obama

attacking Clinton on issues and character. Just keep it clean. He doesnt have to muck in the mud with the clintons to get his point across.

[cooolandrew]

41. It was only time for him to do so, he has been nothing but a gentleman till now.

[BlueIdaho]

43. And then it got really ugly

I hate this kind of politics but I suppose it was only a matter of time before Obama just had enough and decided to push back. Frankly you have to be using your rectum for a focusing lens to miss the fact that HRC's campaign has been saying these sorts of things about BO for several weeks now so its sauce for the goose and the gander I suppose.

The undeniable truth is that HRC's stock has a narrow trading range - low positives and high negatives. I don't see how she ever manages to inspire more than the usual crowd with her act. Maybe BO can do better - and I really don't see how questioning HRC's fitness to lead has a downside at this point.