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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:36 PM
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Let's see: Do I want a smart, mean, dirty-fighting President, or do I want
a calm, resilient, visionary President?

Hmm....... so hard to decide...... hmmmm...
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:38 PM
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1. I just want a democrat.
A REAL DEMOCRAT.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:12 PM
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17. Here here
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:41 PM
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2. You mean
a SMART, calm, resilient, visionary president. Barack's got a big brain in addition to his cool temper and mad oratory skills. :) But you're right: There really is such a difference between the two when it comes to character and personality.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:42 PM
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3. Apparently, you want a president that isn't running.
I don't see any 'calm', resilient, or visionary candidates. I see shit talkers and phonies on all sides. Possibly, the only people who are 'resilient' are Clinton and McCain as they've both trudged through their own bullshit and the bullshit of those around them for decades, while Mr. "I can deliver a speech that JFK's speechwriter wrote for me" as, so it seems, a Bush Jr. level of pompousness and smugness that will no doubt explode one day into an utter embarrassment for the American people.

Hope isn't a vision. It's a feeling that desperate people get when they have no real choices. No real political movement was ever based on anything other than real commitment and action--not 'hope'.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:44 PM
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7. Apparently, you don't remember Bill Clinton's famous line, "I still believe in a place called Hope.
Keep hope alive that what you say is true, though.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:58 PM
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13. "Pompousness and smugness"?
Killer projection. Do you know him? Have you ever been in a room with him?

Give me the community organizer over the Walmart Exec or the S & L felon.

Clinton and McCain sure have trudged through their own bullshit for decades. And they have the cronies to prove it. Do you not know who is funding those campaigns? That's pretty surprising. I thought you were more careful than that.

Obama is a politician, and a gifted one. You now have a choice. You can put in with the Clinton debacle, go over to the McCain insanity, stay home or deal with the best person the Democrats can put up. He's not Dennis, he's not even Edwards but he's clearly more progressive than Hillary.




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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:42 PM
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4. I'd settle for a populist with a touch of character at this point
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:43 PM
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5. I see a calm, resilient, visionary President.
And he's got the lead in pledged delegates.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:43 PM
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6. I want someone who is not going to cry in times of crisis!
I want someone intelligent, unflappable, good common sense, well liked by the world. That counts Mr John Mc and Ms Hillary out.
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:45 PM
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smart? i have respect for hillary but the way shes run her campaign doesnt make her seem smart. - nt
Edited on Fri Mar-21-08 05:45 PM by goletian
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:45 PM
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8. But can Hillary be mean to Republicans?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:46 PM
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9. Visionary, no question
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:47 PM
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10. Lol - no contest!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:56 PM
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11. I'd prefer not to nominate another loser....
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:58 PM
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12. I'd prefer not to have another LIAR in the WH
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:01 PM
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15. If it came down to it- I'd prefer a liar to a loser
wouldn't you?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:02 PM
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16. No, because we lose either way.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 06:14 PM
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18. So, you'd prefer to lose?
I see a possibility that BOTH candidates are untenable by the time the convention rolls around.

Under those circumstances, seems to me the rational thing to do would be for the superdelegates to deadlock the convention- and choose a compromise candidate, endorsed by each of them.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 05:58 PM
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14. I want one that can win.
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