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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:59 AM
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How would we have handled impeachment and this primary season? Thoughts.
I've been thinking about this for weeks now, and cannot imagine how we would have been able to manage both. I think *BushCo should be impeached, tried for war crimes and sentenced to Gitmo, or worse, for all the other crimes against us and humanity, I'm just wondering how we could have managed both, impeachment and this crazy primary season.

Thoughts?
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:03 AM
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1. i think it would have hurt us in the GE
is that why its off the table?



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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:12 AM
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5. I've heard its off the table because Bushie told the Dems, if he's impeached
he will nuc Iran.. He's got positioning militarily to make it happen. If that happens the world would be at our doorstep, and we would probably be under attack. Bush wants to retire to Paraguay so they can never get to him.

I don't think this would hurt the Dems in the Primary.. People are completely pissed off at Bush. His numbers are so low that Hitler is looking better. I don't think many would be too upset if we got rid of the criminals at the top. People are broke, tired of a govt that is not working for them, and they are tired of the wars. Essentially, Nancy Pelosi would take over until the elections held in the fall.. It would really only be a couple of months at the most anyways.. The judicial proceedings alone would take some time.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:17 AM
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7. wow!
what evil.

any further reading or source.

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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:56 AM
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16. Someone close to a presidential contender who has dropped out.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:21 AM
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10. Dear Lord!
I hadn't heard anything like that about Iran.

Your second paragraph is dead on, except I think it would possibly have hurt our primary.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:58 AM
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17. We'd have to pick a top nominee faster than we are doing currently..
so they can help the Congress-critters bring attention to the blatant corruption and cronyism.

The first was word of mouth from someone working on a Presidential campaign.. now suspended.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:24 AM
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19. So do I.




Peace:thumbsup:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:05 AM
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2. Congress isn't on the campaign trail
in fact, they're not all that busy right now.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:09 AM
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3. dont get me wrong..
all for impeachment
but dems would get "the blame"
and look bad.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:11 AM
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4. Not so sure of that
I think it would serve as an ongoing reminder of how corrupt Bush and the GOP have been. I think it would hurt McCain, actually.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:14 AM
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6. id like to think so..
i wish we could actually find out.
im all for it.
cheers:donut:
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:18 AM
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8. I was thinking more in terms of 'we the people.'
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Blackdog4241 Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:21 AM
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9. How can we not be impeaching ???
Yes it's much more important to investigate steroids in baseball or create legislation
that we know will be vetoed.
Gee,How can we make ourselves look like bigger hypocrites that running our campaigns on
the crimes of the Bush administration and then letting it continue and do nothing to stop
it.
It sickens me everyday that we refuse to do our constitutional duty and what's more just do
the right thing for the sake of a couple of voters that wouldn't have voted democrat
anyway. :grr: :nuke:
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UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:27 AM
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13. People have y'all fallen and hit your head on the pavement???
Bushco. should have been impeached. It would NOT have hurt us in the GE. Problem is we have leaders in congress without a backbone. Have y'all forgot the Clinton Impeachment? Then Bush came in to power. This didn't hurt the republican party. Impeachment was taken off the table because Pelosi has no backbone at all. She needs to go and we need someone that will take on creeps like Bushco.
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Blackdog4241 Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:31 AM
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14. Here,Here
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:36 AM
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15. when it comes to destroying
the current regime I'm easily convinced.
thats why I'm here (DU)
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:29 AM
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20. Perhaps is it weren't summarily "taken off the table," it would be over by now.
Who knows???




Peace:thumbsup:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:22 AM
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11. Well, McCain would be struggling to find an identity other than George Bush III.
It might be fun to watch his expression.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:24 AM
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12. If we'd impeached this season, we would have ended up
with one positive accomplishment. As it is, we end up with no support or defense of the Constitution, no holding elected criminals accountable, and a nominee who has divided the party and will lose the GE; whichever of them ends up with it.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:18 AM
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18. However "Handled," We'd Be 10 Points Up On McCain
The failure to impeach has made the Dems a "non-alternative" for the public/electorate. It props up the existing reputation of weakness and corruption -- no principle worth standing for.

But the notion that somehow "people can't handle" more than the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy feels like dishing out is itself a canard.

The public would have -- and will -- take impeachment in stride. It is the chattering classes that are Pavlovianly trained to react like Chicken Littles to proper excercise of the (now defunct) US Constitution. One of their main rationalizations for inaction is some form of oxymoronic mumbling about the Clinton farce (see #3).

And who knows, perhaps now that all else has failed, Hillary might try "getting real" and calling for impeachment.

It is the ONLY thing that can "move the game" and turn this around for her. (No, I don't really think "her people" are that smart.)

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:31 AM
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21. Makes sense when put in that framework.
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 11:32 AM by Window




Peace:thumbsup:
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