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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:43 PM
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Blame yourselves, HRC supporters
It's Hillary Clinton that is ripping our party apart at the seams, not Obama or anyone else. The sooner we all understand this the better.

We are STILL figting a useless battle while McCain is gaining ground. We don't need to give him this advantage, he's already popular with many Americans. Let's end this already, and unite behind our candidate: Barack Obama.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:45 PM
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1. No, blame Hillary
As long as she is a candidate, she will have supporters.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:47 PM
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2. How's that horse's head thing working out?
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:47 PM
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3. The only person hurting Barack Obama is Barack Obama. His strategy to win the nomination
is to smear his opponent on a personal level and tell people they have to vote for him because Hillary is (basically) a bad person.

Barack Obama is not my candidate and he never will be. I won't rule out voting against him if he wins, not that it will matter since his betrayal of the people of Florida and Michigan will cost us those states, along with the election.

Steve
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Smears? Can You Be Specific?
Can you provide a link?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:02 PM
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15. They never can
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. Looks Like You're Correct
A slink rather than a link.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:12 PM
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31. Sorry I'm not on DU 24/7. Here is what I am talking about
He says that she will say or do anything to win on a daily basis. He has essentially called her a racist, repeatedly. He questions her motives about everything, turning every comment into a supposed vicious attack on him (like with the McCarthyism charge). That also indicates narcissism on his part.

Steve
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #31
47. Link?
Let's get specific.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #47
64. Crickets.
NGU.


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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #19
51. You can't argue with these twits...
After all, it's dishonorable to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

So, for this tool, it's time for a *plonk*.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:02 PM
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18. No. The poster cannot be specific. Mostly all Senator Obama
has been doing is fighting back due to Hillary's scorched earth tactics aimed at him. No one is going to just sit back and take all the shit from her.
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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:56 PM
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7. WTF
Another Hillbot that hasn't paid a moment of attention to this race. Everything you just said about Obama is exactly what HILLARY HAS DONE. She is the one making this a nasty situation.

What scares me, is the fact that people that are either totally ignorant of what's happening, or totally delusional are voting in our elections. Which are you?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:08 PM
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26. They keep repeating the same thing over and over again like a chant until they really believe that
crap. It's a total waste of time responding to them.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:15 PM
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35. Does it matter? Obama holds me in contempt and therefore doesn't value my vote.
So he won't get it. And I'm sure that a lot of Democrats feel that way. He might try reaching out a little, instead of treating us like crap. If you want someone's vote, the first thing you have to do is ask for it. But Obama wouldn't be where he is if he hadn't smeared Hillary. And he thinks that he is entitled to all of her voters. Best of luck to him.

Steve
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:59 PM
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10. Actually, his strategy seems to be ...
... to win more states, and more delegates, thereby being the front-runner.

So far, that strategy is working out really well.

And BTW, Obama didn't 'betray' the people of MI or FL - the powers-that-be in their respective states who said 'screw the rules, we are doing as we please, even if it means being stripped of our delegates' did.

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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:01 PM
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14. How do you do it?
How do you manage to breath with your head so far up your ass? You need to go and check the facts and don't come back until you have some links.:beer:





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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:18 PM
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38. Does Obama need links to call his opponents bad human beings on a near-daily basis?
If he doesn't need "links," neither do I. But just turn on the news every day (or even read your own links) and you'll hear one of Obama's minions talking about how loathsome the Clintons are. This is his strategy for victory. And it will lead to his defeat, either in August or November.

Steve
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:26 PM
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46. Well since you have seen this on the Teevee box every day
I guess you will be able to provide some links on him calling his opponent(s) BAD HUMAN BEINGS.

"Does Obama need links to call his opponents bad human beings on a near-daily basis" This sounds like something Billo would say he is a major Fuckhead you would love him.

Now don't come back until you have some links validating the BULL SHIT you're spewing.
:beer:


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:12 PM
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30. This is the new talking point I guess
Obama is really the one doing the smearing. :crazy: You guys are ridiculous. And you're supporting the betrayal of the voters in FL & MI by pretending Hillary's potemkin primary was real.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:12 PM
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32. where is your profile icon?
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #32
42. To be honest, I don't know. I'm not that frequent of a poster. Am I supposed to have a
profile icon and if so how do I make it visible?

Steve
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:15 PM
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34. Deleted message
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. Nope, I've never voted for a Republican in my life (eom)

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:45 PM
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52. Alert on him! n/t
I thought this was a Democrats-only board, and I have yet to hear of an exception to the rule that applies when Freepers are pretending to be Democrats.
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:28 PM
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48. The DNC made the decision on FL / MI, not Obama. Since when is abiding by their rules a betrayal?
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:49 PM
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54. So you'd consider voting for McCain?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:50 PM
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4. Obama's smear to change subject when he lost NH & now with Wright is the problem
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:55 PM
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6. You mean while McCain is gad-flying around the world on our dime for photo ops?
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 08:58 PM by bridgit
Acting like the geriatric general in a Geritol commercial. HRC isn't tearing the party apart per se...it's ignorance. Not asking the right questions. Not reading the angles for where the que ball will need to be for the next shot.

BO peeps are every bit as lapse, every bit as proactive in tearing things to insignificant little pieces...this petty stuff just goes on & on
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:57 PM
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8. Some fucking uniter Obama is. His whiny ass supporters have driven half the party away
Thank god Obama will end up losing the nomination to the Hillary. After the Goddess of Peace is done handing Obama his ass on a silver platter she can concentrate on whipping McCain in the General Election. yeah
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:00 PM
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11. Goddess of Peace? Can you get any more ridiculous?
Goddesses of peace do not vote against bans on cluster bombs in civilian areas.
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:06 PM
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25. I don't really mind that nickname on her
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:06 PM by Bodhi BloodWave
After all, the initials on the nickname reveals her alliance 'GOP' :P and no i don't really think she is GOP, but its hard to resist the temptation to use the shortening of their own nickname for her.
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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:02 PM
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16. Only after Dubya switches parties....
Then every member of his family joins the military and volunteers for duty in Iraq.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:05 PM
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23. Goddess of Scorched Earth is more like it.
:beer:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #8
36. Welcome to my ignore dugeon. n/t
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #36
43. Oh please don't ruin my Easter
with such devasting news :evilgrin:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:24 PM
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44. "Losing the nomination TO THE HILLARY...?"
:wtf:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:47 PM
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53. Ken, you're a smart guy. You don't honestly think Obama is going to beat her, do you?
Granted, there is still a chacne, albeit a small one, that he can pull it off but it's highly unlikely.

Hey, if by some miracle it happens, more power to him.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 02:58 PM
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56. He's ahead in delegates and continuing to gain superdelegates
Plus, he's going to win most of the remaining primaries.

What is so inherently superior about the conservative establishment candidate that you support that it's worth destroying all the enthusiam anyone feels about this year just to shoehorn her in instead?

Clearly, there's little reason for anyone to believe that people who still back HRC actually WANT the Democratic Party to win the White House. If you did want that, you'd have done the honorable thing. Obama would've withdrawn at this point if he were in HRC's position.

And Bill Clinton had LESS foreign policy experience than Obama has, and little other experiencehaving done nothing but waste a decade administering a right-wing status quo in a tiny, meaningless state.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 04:31 PM
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57. "Obama would've withdrawn at this point if he were in HRC's position"
Yeah, I'll BET he would've withdrawn :eyes:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 04:41 PM
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58. Yes, he would have. Unlike HRC, Obama isn't driven solely by a sense of entitlement
Like anybody else who runs for president, the man does have an ego, but he also has common sense and some degree of humility.

Obama clearly wouldn't stay in JUST to stop HRC from getting it.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:10 PM
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59. Ken, now you're just not making any sense
Like anybody else who runs for president, the man does have an ego, but he also has common sense and some degree of humility.

Obama clearly wouldn't stay in JUST to stop HRC from getting it.


So you're saying that Hillary is only staying in this in order to prevent Obama from getting it? In other words, she's not staying in this to try and win it herself? :wtf:

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:19 PM
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62. Since we both know she's doomed against McCain.
Yes, that IS what I'm saying.

She's obviously just sabotauging the thing so she can have one more chance in 2012, running than as an old-style DLC'er and forcing us to settle for that(rather than pretending to be slightly liberal like this time).

It's the only explanation for the McCain thing, and it's the only explanation for her insistence on brutally attacking the man she's known since Feb 5th would likely be our nominee.

The HRC campaign is this year's Democrats For Nixon.

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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 08:58 PM
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9. She can't win. So it's silly, we should be focusing on John McCain.
I would have rather had her, but it's over.

Enough fighting, let's fight the General Election fight.

Obama is the nominee. It's crystal clear.

Time to kick some ass...
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monicaaida Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:00 PM
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12. hillary
to some she is mopre important then the pasrty
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:01 PM
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13. I originally support Edwards, then Hillary. NEITHER was more important. It's Obama's time.
And we shall fight for him to win!!
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:02 PM
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17. BO can never win after all that has happened. There is no way
a thinking American will vote for him. If he doesn't get out it is sure to be McCain.
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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:04 PM
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21. Hillary can't win.
No amount of delusion will ever change that. John McCain would tear her limb from limb. Let it go, join the team.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:04 PM
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22. Dumbest post of the night. "no way a thinking American will vote for him." Yawn, same old tactics.
Mr. Rove, is that you?
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:50 PM
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55. So you just said no one who supports Obama is a "thinking American"?!?
Wow, just wow.

And someone posted today that it was Obama's supporters who are alienating the rest of the party?

:rofl:
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:26 AM
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63. They have alienating the rest of the party. BO himself has
brought on all the current problems himself, and yes how can you vote for a man that doesn't believe in this country. I say that because he admits in his book that he was brought up by his mother as an atheist and anti-American. When he started going to church he found one that had the best fit for him and sadly for his children.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:03 PM
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. Speaking of shit, is that all that comes out of your keyboard? n/t
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:11 PM
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29. No kidding
I think my *plonk* file is two pages long now.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:09 PM
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28. Apparently shit is what you eat.
It's low nutritional value is what has caused that severe rot of your brain, hence interfering with your ability to have logical posts.
:beer:
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:17 PM
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37. Holy Masticating PooPoo Batman!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:20 PM
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41. would you please stop it ...,my ignore list is huge already and you're not helping it.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #20
45. Marian Wright Edelman and all that she stood for
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:27 PM by Ken Burch
were betrayed and abandoned by the Clintons. They lost any right to claim to support the values of the Children's Defense Fund when they agreed to have Bill sign Rush Limbaugh's wet dream of a welfare bill.

You can't sell out the powerless and still call yourself a Democrat.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:09 PM
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27. Quick, somebody send the "sink or stink" memo.

That should cover it. :thumbsdown:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:13 PM
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33. I agree. Enough of the politics of division by Clinton!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:20 PM
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40. Let's all stop blaming anyone
If you don't like what many HRC supporters are saying, just don't engage them.

It's the easiest way to peace.
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:31 PM
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49. Click the link, scroll down, look at the math and repeat after me.
"She's done. She's done. She's done."
http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/
Also, I find it pathetic that anyone who calls themselves a Democrat would refuse to vote the Dem. candidate in November.
"Someone hurt my feelings on DU, so I'm going to give SCOTUS and POTUS to the Repugs." is a horseshit cop-out!

One final thought for Hillary...
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:39 PM
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50. I would hope that we'll unite behind the candidate when we
have one.

Of course - the enthusiasm with which "Obama supporters" like you go after Hillary's supporters makes me wonder what your motives on this board really are.

The party is not being ripped apart at the seams - we're just having an extremely close fought election.

It's happened before.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:12 PM
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60. close your eyes, cover your ears and shout the propaganda
the sooner you do, the better it will be for you. Stepford Obama supporters want us all to join in.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:14 PM
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61. Nah, not Hillary or her supporters. It's the folks who support my candidate, Obama.
They have behaved very poorly. The only thing I don't love about Obama are his supporters, and I bet he is ashamed of many of us.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:34 AM
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65. Enough, stop this negative posting
We've got it in the bag, we don't need to make posts like this.
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