Foreign Policy - Hillary or Barry

[Taxmyth]

Both gave recent speeches regarding their thoughts on the future and positive goals for America:

Senator Obama's speech http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fpccga/

Senator Clinton's speech http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=6196

Personally, I liked Senator Clintons reasoning better but then I'm biased.

[Skittles]

1. what is this "Barry" stuff?

I believe we should call people what they prefer to be called - Mr. Obama prefers "Barack" now so why are you calling him Barry?

[better tomorrow]

2. yeah, that would be like calling Hillary "Diane"

[Skittles]

6. did Hillary used to call herself Diane?

my name is Susan - I was known as Sue until I was in my early twenties when I decided I liked Susan better - I would not care for people calling me Sue now; people should be addressed how they wish to be addressed

[better tomorrow]

8. Diane is Hillary's middle name....

[JoFerret]

4. Quick - alert all posters - preferred names only

Barack's mother did call him Barry according to him. But she was his mom and entitled to call him anything. She sounds like quite an amazing person.

And answer to OP - I find HRC's much better on foreign policy than BHO.

[MADem]

16. His friends did, too. He was BARRY in high school--check his yearbook

[Taxmyth]

5. I prefer Barry

Lots of people prefer their given names in favor of nicknames bestowed upon them. I like the name Barry.

Edited to add: This was to be a serious discussion and using the nickname Barry was inappropriate for such a discussion. I apologize for my lack of impartiality to those offended.

[Skittles]

7. that's not the point

he prefers "Barack" so that's how you should address him

[Taxmyth]

11. Yes Sir

Thank you for your guidance, Sir. I will address Barack in the manner so prescribed.

[Skittles]

14. that's MA'AM

wait - I don't care for that either :D

[JVS]

19. I think we should defer to a universally respected authority on this.

At 51 seconds (this version is in spanish)

"If a man want to call himself Milchamed Ali, this is America goddamit, we should respect his wishes, I call him Michamed Ali"

[Cha]

9. Well, I prefer hilary the shit-

head liar.

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[Taxmyth]

12. so what did you think

about their two differing sets of ideas?

[bellasgrams]

15. His friends called him Barry and it does sound American, O, I forgot

he probably doesn't want to sound American.

[Shae]

21. It's a good thing you can say any kind of crap

anonymously on a web page and don't have to back it up. Right?

[Skittles]

22. nasty n/t

[hulka38]

3. I can't believe there's even a debate about this among Dems

Senator Obama - Iraq 2002 and Iran 2007.

[SunsetDreams]

13. are we judging a speech or actual in depth documented

policies?

If it's a speech, for delivery I have to give it to Barack.
For summary, again it goes to Barack

If it's actual well documented policies we're talking about, I have to give it to him here as well.

Not that Hillary doesn't have good ideas or anything.

I don't trust Hillary on foreign policy, she voted for the IWR, now we have her vote on Iran, and the foreign policy experience she has been touting, is turning out to be half truths, and non existent truths.

It doesn't matter what she says she will do, she has lost the judgement and honesty arguement on foreign policy.

Edited to add: I will say if she is the nominee, I will still vote for her, because I certainly don't want another 4 years of Republican rule.

[JohnnyLib2]

17. Gawdalmighty. Only 1 or 2 replies even mentioned foreign policy

Thanks for the relevant OP.

I prefer the pragmatic Clinton to the precocious Obama.

[FrenchieCat]

18. You must have meant Billary, right?

[JoFerret]

20. that's an

obamanation

[boppers]

23. Halle Barry?

:)

[Capital_Hill_Ender]

24. Barry?