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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:31 PM
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HRC chief strategist, Penn, helped reelect Menachem Begin, the first Likud PM of Israel...
and Blair and Lieberman and Gore, who ended up firing him.

Clinton's PowerPointer
With Data and Slides, a Pollster Guides Campaign Strategy

By Anne E. Kornblut
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, April 30, 2007; A01

It was fairly simple, Mark J. Penn said calmly to Vice President Al Gore, reporting the findings of an exhaustive survey he had conducted in the early stages of the 2000 presidential campaign. Voters liked Gore's policies. They just didn't like Gore.

Gore laughed, according to people who attended the meeting. He had heard that before. But the vice president, worried about the effect President Bill Clinton's scandals might have on his campaign, had another question for his pollster: Was there any evidence of this "Clinton fatigue" that people kept talking about?

"I'm not tired of him," Penn replied. "Are you?"

It was a flippant response -- and the final straw for Gore, who had long been wary of Penn and concerned that his real loyalty was to Clinton and first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton. His senior advisers agreed, regarding Penn as arrogant and controlling, someone who pushed the boundaries of his job by dispensing strategic advice rather than simply interpreting data. Shortly after the meeting with Gore, Penn was fired.

~snip~

To Penn, 'Strength Is Critical'

In their $5 million Georgetown mansion, Penn and his wife, Nancy Jacobson, a former staff member for Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) who is now a fundraiser with the Clinton campaign, run something of a salon for like-minded friends. They recently threw a book party for Jeffrey Goldberg, the New Yorker writer, to celebrate the release of his memoir on Israel. On another occasion, they hosted David Brooks, the conservative New York Times columnist, for a dinner party and political discussion.

Penn has deep roots in the national security wing of the Democratic Party, along with other centrist Democrats -- some of them Jewish and pro-Israel, like Penn -- who saw the merits of invading Iraq before the war began.

"Penn has always believed that strength is critical for running the country, and that people want to have a president who's going to be willing to defend the country -- that's the number one criteria," said Al From, the chief executive of the Democratic Leadership Council, who considers Penn a friend.

Penn gained his foreign policy expertise working on numerous campaigns overseas, especially in Israel. In 1981, he and business partner Doug Schoen helped reelect Menachem Begin, one of the most right-wing prime ministers in the country's history, and emerged with a new outlook on the Middle East. "We got a chance to experience firsthand the perils and possibilities that the state of Israel presents," Schoen said in an interview.

In a pivotal moment, the pollsters watched as Begin launched airstrikes against a developing Iraqi nuclear facility, Osirak, in the middle of the campaign. "In the end, bombing the Osirak reactor became a metaphor for the type of man that Begin was and the steps he was willing to take to safeguard Israel's security," Schoen wrote in his autobiography, "The Power of the Vote."

Ever since, Penn has been a prominent advocate of conveying strength in foreign policy. As recently as the 2004 presidential contest, Penn argued that Democrats would lose if they failed to close the "security gap." His client list includes prominent backers of the Iraq war, particularly Lieberman, whose presidential campaign Penn helped run in 2004, and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, whose campaign he advised when Blair won a historic third term in 2005.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/29/AR2007042901661.html?hpid=artslot
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:54 PM
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1. Sounds like this writer is on the the verge of anti semetic .If Obama wants the Jewish support
you had better cool it.
"some of them Jewish and pro-Israel, like Penn "
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:57 PM
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2. This Jew voted for Obama.
This Jew also thinks Mark Penn is a piece of shit.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:07 AM
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5. So anyone who doesn't support the Likud party is anti-semitic?
Gotcha.

Let me pass along the info to Ehud Olmert and the Labor Party of Israel. I'm sure they'll be surprised.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:33 AM
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8. They're self-hating Jews! n/t
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:41 AM
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11. LOL! Love your sig line, by the way.
I have the Criterion Edition of Fear & Loathing. Best purchase ever.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:04 AM
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3. k&r
:kick:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:05 AM
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4. Less foreign influence on our campiagns the better.
Penn is seriously a piece of shit.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:19 AM
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6. This guy sounds like a real beauty. No wonder Clinton hasn't apologized...
...for co-signing Bush**'s Blank Check for Invasion.

NGU.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:32 AM
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7. Kicking for the face of Clinton foreign policy.
NGU.


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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:41 AM
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10. It's a curious relationship: "Penn kept his foot in the political world through the Clintons..."
... Penn kept his foot in the political world through the Clintons. In 2000 he became the chief architect of Hillary's Senate victory in New York, persuading her, in a rerun of '96, to eschew big themes and relentlessly focus on poll-tested pothole politics, such as suburban transit lines and dairy farming upstate. Following that election, Penn became a very rich man... The massive PR empire WPP Group acquired Penn's polling firm for an undisclosed sum in 2001 and four years later named him worldwide CEO of one of its most prized properties, the PR firm Burson-Marsteller (B-M). A key player in the decision to hire Penn was Howard Paster, President Clinton's chief lobbyist to Capitol Hill and a top executive in the WPP firmament. "Clients of stature come to Mark constantly for counsel," says Paster, who informally advises Hillary, explaining the hire. The press release announcing Penn's promotion noted his work "developing and implementing deregulation informational programs for the electric utilities industry and in the financial services sector." The release blithely ignored how utility deregulation contributed to the California electricity crisis manipulated by Enron and the blackout of 2003, which darkened much of the Northeast and upper Midwest.

Burson-Marsteller is hardly a natural fit for a prominent Democrat. The firm has represented everyone from the Argentine military junta to Union Carbide after the 1984 Bhopal disaster in India...

A host of prominent Republicans fall under Penn's purview. B-M's Washington lobbying arm, BKSH & Associates, is run by Charlie Black, a leading GOP operative who maintains close ties to the White House, including Karl Rove, and was former partners with Lee Atwater, the political consultant who crafted the Willie Horton smear campaign used by George H.W. Bush against Michael Dukakis in 1988. ... In recent years Black's clients have included the likes of Iraq's Ahmad Chalabi, the darling of the neocon right in the run-up to the war; Lockheed Martin; and Occidental Petroleum. In the summer of 2005 he landed a contract with the Lincoln Group, the disgraced PR firm that covertly placed US military propaganda in Iraqi news outlets. The agreement, according to Intelligence Online, allowed the Lincoln Group to "tap into BKSH's extensive contacts in the Republican administration." When asked by The New Yorker if there was too much cronyism in Iraq, Black responded, "I just wish I could find the cronies."

Black is only one cannon in B-M's Republican arsenal. Its "grassroots" lobbying branch, Direct Impact--which specializes in corporate-funded astroturfing--is run by Dennis Whitfield, a former Reagan Cabinet official, and Dave DenHerder, the political director of the Bush-Cheney '04 campaign in Ohio. That's not all. B-M recently partnered with lobbyist Ed Gillespie, the former head of the Republican National Committee, in creating the new ad firm 360Advantage, which is run by two ad men for the Bush-Cheney campaigns and which includes a few prominent Democrats. Its first project was a campaign for the neoconservative Weekly Standard magazine against "liberal bias" in the media. There's more than a little irony that some Democrats would assist a conservative media machine that so regularly smears the Clintons. Yet the so-called "bipartisan" firm is hardly objective--of its thirteen principals, ten are Republicans.

As expected with such a lineup, B-M has a highly confrontational relationship with organized labor...

~snip~

But it's difficult to tell where Penn's corporate life ends and his political one begins. Most Democratic consultants do some business work--it's the easiest way to pay the bills. Yet nobody wears as many hats--and advises as many corporations--as Penn does. "Penn and Schoen have displayed a thirst for corporate work, often in conflict with the policy agendas of their political clients, that has long set the bar among Democratic pollsters," wrote Democratic pollster Mark Blumenthal on his blog recently. "My employers and partners over the years had corporate lines they (variously) refused to cross--tobacco, pharma, big oil, aggressively anti-union--both out of ideological principle and to avoid putting their valued political clients in a tough spot. A quick glance at the Penn, Schoen, Berland client list shows they not only crossed some of those lines, but did so with enthusiasm."

Furthermore, few Democratic consultants so consistently and publicly advocate an ideology that perfectly complements their corporate clients. ... Through his longtime association with the Democratic Leadership Council, Penn has been pushing pro-corporate centrism for years. Many of the same companies that underwrite the DLC, such as Eli Lilly, AT&T, Texaco and Microsoft, also happen to be clients of Penn's.

Yet despite occupying such a divisive place in the Democratic Party and outsized role in the corporate world--and despite his company's close ties to Republican political operatives and the Bush White House--Penn remains a leading figure in Hillary's campaign, pitching the inevitability of her nomination to donors and party bigwigs. According to the New York Times, " Clinton responds to Penn's points with exclamations like, Oh, Mark, what a smart thing to say!" Politically, his presence means that triangulation is alive and well inside the campaign and that despite her populist forays, Hillary won't stray too far from the center. "Penn has a lot of influence on her, no doubt about it," says New York political consultant Hank Sheinkopf, who worked with Penn in '96. "He's not going to let her drift too far left."
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070521/berman
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:17 AM
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16. These people are the scum of the earth
I remember some noise when she initially hired them. I went to their website to check it out, and dear sweet Jebus... these people PRIDE themselves on defending the indefensible. :(
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:33 AM
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21. Scary.
NGU.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:09 PM
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23. Liebermanesque.
NGU.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:31 PM
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25. .
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:40 AM
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9. Let's see: Menachem Begin has been dead since 1992 and this is relevant because? (nt)
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:42 AM
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12. He was a right-winger. Penn has a history of supporting right-wingers...
Including his current boss.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:20 AM
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13. It speaks volumes, IMHO,
and if you have the chance to read the article at the link, perhaps you would understand.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:46 AM
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14. K & R
:kick:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:56 AM
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15. Penn forgot to get the memo on today's talking points to Bayh
He was on CNN and when asked about the math nearly choked
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:18 AM
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17. Wow. That 4-paragraph rule went right over your head, eh?
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:19 AM
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19. LOL!
I edited down to the equivalent of 4 paragraphs, can't you tell, Maddy? Still love the frog! :hi:
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:32 AM
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18. Penn's campaign clear set to destroy Obama to defeat the will of the voters going
into the final round. It is crystal clear and has precedent in his reputation.

I feel sorry for the poor, naive, Hillary supporters who don't realize the perverse political machination that seek to manipulate them and the outcome of elections.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:23 AM
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20. Hmmm, not quite sure how anything negative about Israel helps Obama nt
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:00 AM
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22. And what, exactly, was 'negative about Israel' in the article posted?
Please explain your assertion.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:12 PM
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24. Fits right in with the DLC=neoliberal theme.
No more right-wing infestattion of our party! Enough!
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