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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:23 PM Original message |
Did Bill Clinton question Ralph Nader's patriotism in 2004?! |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. He was Mugged.. |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. and he fell down |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Who was mugged? NT |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. His candidate wasn't getting whamped by Nader in 2004. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Primary campaigns are allowed to be optimistic that their candidate.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Sure. But impugning the patriotism of their opponent |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I heard Bill Clinton speak two years ago and he used a similar theme. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I believe you when you say Bill has had this trope in his quiver |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Bill Clinton is a good politician, but I don't his predictive powers are quite that good.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. That would be a good defense except there was Hillary |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Hillary Clinton criticized Obama by name, because she wanted.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Do you seriously believe Bill Clinton was unaware that the campaign |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I don't agree that the Clintons criticizing Obama by name in the past... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Innuendo has been just as effective, hasn't it? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. Sorry... the interpretation of his words is clear.... |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. He's allowed to picture his wife and McCain running in the general election, and to praise them. |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
22. He was making an argument as to WHY you should vote for Hillary |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I just watched that clip (thanks for sharing it) and I noticed that.... |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. And he implies voting for Obama would not lead to such an election |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. No, it's not clear at all |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Look at Clinton's full statement WITH the context |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. When Bill Clinton gives reasons to vote for his wife... |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. It's one thing to say "my spouse is a great person", and another to say... |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Mchelle Obama speech: |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Those are very different statements in at least one important way |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:03 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. regarding "other stuff" |
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Drachasor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. But he's making an argument as to why you should vote for Hillary |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Maybe Clinton's argument is that because of the personal respect... |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Only to people |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
16. Hey, I kind of the like the idea of questioning Nader's Patriotism |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
17. Meh. I see your point and I agree about giving Bill the benefit of the doubt. I don't think attacks |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
18. only Ralph? There were at least 16 candidates who got votes |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. After a debate in which his wife made the drivers-license gaffe, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
33. I hope so. Nader's no patriot. |
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