odelisk8
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:52 AM
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So Obama is polling better than he has pretty much EVER polled in PA...and this despite the nonsense they have been throwing at him the past two weeks...it's in the bag, baby...
Rasmussen 03/24 - 03/24 - 49 39 Clinton +10.0
PPP (D) 03/15 - 03/16 - 56 30 Clinton +26.0
Franklin & Marshall 03/11 - 03/16 - 51 35 Clinton +16.0
Quinnipiac 03/10 - 03/16 - 53 41 Clinton +12.0 SurveyUSA 03/08 - 03/10 - 55 36 Clinton +19.0
Keystone Poll 05/29 - 06/07 - 40 18 Clinton +22.0
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:58 AM
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1. He will stage a grand upset here |
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Billary's time is over. So is Rendell's, by the way. We are working hard for Obama here.
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:29 AM
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23. That's what I am really hoping for... |
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an Obama win in Pennsylvania.
If this were to happen - which is probably a long shot - it WILL be over. I think the Democratic Party leadership will rally around him as the nominee so we can focus on defeating McCain in November.
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Thu Mar-27-08 11:31 AM
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24. In all honesty, no he won't. |
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But I think it can be close--like within 10 points close.
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Thu Mar-27-08 12:09 PM
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30. Using the name Billary is showing disrespect for yourself |
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Your candidate and for Hillary and Bill Clinton. This is something the Rove group came up with and I don't think that kind of post should be allowed on DU, the Rove rhetoric.
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Thu Mar-27-08 08:59 AM
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:00 AM
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3. Great news! Just saw Morning Joe,HC's "campaign manager" |
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Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 09:01 AM by goclark
He never mentioned Bosnia. Recall last week it was 24/7 Rev. Wright.
Had clip after clip of her with "huge"-100 people clapping her hands and all these Hillary signs.
Repeating clip of Bill saying " this is politics...etc."
Cherry picking the polls to say they are neck and neck.
For 3 hours,prime morning time, that all we see,just him bashing Clinton and every guest was slanted for Clinton.
FIRED UP and ready to roll in PA!!!!!! :bounce:
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:03 AM
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5. I've been listening to Imus on WABC. Much better than Joe. And guess |
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what??? Imus is a McCane guy but really likes Obama, thought his speech was great, etc.
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:44 AM
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21. Sounds like Imus learned his lesson? |
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Thu Mar-27-08 12:01 PM
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25. He pretty much said that. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:03 AM
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4. Don't forget that PA is all DRE - touch screen voting |
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No matter what he polls, expect him to lose PA by several points. It will unfortunately be New Hamphshire and Ohio all over again.
Unfortunately.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:13 AM
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We have the choice to use paper ballots here.
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:38 AM
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16. thanks for the correction |
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otherwise, though, it's all touch screen, right?
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:42 AM
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20. Yep -- and I should also note that some counties do NOT offer the option |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:15 AM
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11. Cool your jets. We don't have that rep here. Obama will lose, and lose honestly. You have no |
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Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 09:18 AM by WinkyDink
idea. Local Dems are ALL working for HRC, from what I can tell. Not talking about college kids.
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:40 AM
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I don't know what happened in Ohio, but there was definitely some weirdness there. Also true for New Hampshire.
Rendell is a machine guy. It's my firm believe that the reason the Dems went along with the HAVA act which enabled all the DRE's is that they knew they'd have some control over the results, not just the Republicans.
So...i hope and pray for an honest election in Pa. I hope Obama wins, but more importantly, I hope it's fair and honest regardless of the outcome.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:05 AM
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6. Oh shit, he's within 20 points!!! |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:07 AM
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7. I don't think he can win PA, but... |
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if he's really close, he can control the narrative.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:13 AM
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8. "It's" being...? 'Cause it sure as heck won't be Pennsylvania. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:14 AM
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10. I think he meant the national contest. |
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Because if it's close at all, it's really an Obama win.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:17 AM
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12. Heh. I think he meant the GE, also. I'm just a stickler about vague pronouns. :) |
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:19 AM
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meant the GE...but who knows...!!!
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:26 AM
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I like to see good grammar on the interwebs, but I'm so used to bad grammar that my rules have gotten mixed up.
I scored really well in English on the ACT back in the day, but I don't think I would come close to that now.
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Thu Mar-27-08 09:27 AM
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He's winning the expectations game, he's expected to loose by a wide margin, if he loses by a few percentage points everyone will practically see it as a win.
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:41 AM
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18. Why did it take you so long to find DU? |
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We've been here for over 7 years fighting this fight. Were you busy? :-)
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Thu Mar-27-08 01:41 PM
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reading DU for years...but it isn't until now that i have felt the urge to get in on the posting action...can't tell you why...
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:42 AM
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19. Told ya, wait until the middle of April before saying Clinton will win. |
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Thu Mar-27-08 10:53 AM
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22. Obama will lose PA by 15% |
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and it won't matter. Hillary will pick up 25ish delegates and cut the Obama lead to 100. She'll probably also win West Virginia. Of the remaining states though, those are probably the only two she's going to win. We'll go to convention pretty much where we are right now. The delegate race is essentially over and I'd bet that if we end up having all the remaining states vote before someone drops out that the final Obama lead will be within 10% of what it is right now.
Knowing the Democratic party this will then go to convention where, due to her insider connections, we'll give the nomination to Hillary and once again the Democrats will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the General.
Call me pessimistic.
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Thu Mar-27-08 12:03 PM
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26. Same past 2 days...how does that = "closing in" & look at the PPP C 56 O 30/Franklin C51 O35 |
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Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 12:06 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Thu Mar-27-08 12:03 PM
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27. Hillary's base of old, low-educated white folks is too strong in PA. He'll keep it |
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Thu Mar-27-08 12:06 PM
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Thu Mar-27-08 12:07 PM
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29. Ras ONLY ...ALL the others listed have Hillary handly beating Obama |
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Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 12:08 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Thu Mar-27-08 01:35 PM
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polls are from earlier this year and last year...the latest poll has him closer than ever...
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Thu Mar-27-08 01:36 PM
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32. No wonder the media is pushing Wright again. |
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