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Greenwood Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:45 AM
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Clinton continues to lead Obama nationally........
She offers us the best hope to win the White House. I am telling you that more "stuff" is going to come out on Obama. This guy would be a disaster. Hillary IS our best shot.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:45 AM
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1. In your dreams perhaps! n/t
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:47 AM
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2. What "stuff"?????
Please tell us.....

I can't wait!
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:47 AM
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4. Ya might want to ask yourself what Karl Rove might know that you don't
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:57 AM
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16. True, he had 8+ years to prepare to run again Hillary.
Only 6 months to prepare against Obama. Who do you think he has the most hypothetical dirt on?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:21 AM
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26. Not this time! NT
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:00 AM
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19. Yea, Rove knows Clinton, and Clinton is acting like Rove:
that should concern Dems more.

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/interviews/101

James Moore -- Texas Expert on Rove -- Discusses Political Surrogates, Rovian Tactics, and Win at All Cost Campaigns in 2008
Submitted by BuzzFlash on Tue, 03/25/2008 - 5:04am. Interviews

A BUZZFLASH INTERVIEW

I think it's fair to say that they are not just playing the "race card," but they're trying to combine race and fear. This is the thing that probably pushed me over the edge with the Clintons. ... They see race as an effective button to push to move people in their direction, to create doubt. And that was the whole Rove thing, to create enough doubt that people go back to their default positions and their belief systems. ... They're using fear to put them where they want to be.

-- James Moore, Emmy-winning reporter and coauthor of Bush's Brain
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:07 PM
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33. So is Karl Rove your new hero?
Give. Me. A. Break.!!!!!

Me? I'm pretty sure that Karl has much more dirt on the Clintons than he does on Obama! If you know differently, then tell us what you know!
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:55 AM
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13. It seems The Disaster Pastor hates Italians too, or as he likes to
call them "garlic noses"

There is more coming down the pike

No doubt about it, BO and Wright are nasty bigots.
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The_Counsel Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:09 AM
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24. Wow.
So let's get this straight:

Wright calls Italians "garlic noses" and therefore OBAMA is the bigot? On what planet?

I'm sure you've met an asshole or two in your lifetime. Does that make YOU one?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:26 AM
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30. "met"? Oh that's right. BO only just "met"Wright. It's not like he
had a 20 year relationship and thought of him as part of the family. :shrug:
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The_Counsel Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:46 AM
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31. Same Difference.
Okay, so again: how does any of this make OBAMA a bigot?

Rev. Wright was his PASTOR, not his alter ego. So, Obama leaves that church as you apparently believe he should have. Then what? What if the next pastor is a jackass too? And the next one? And the next? Obama would then be seen as a church hoppin' fool who can't decide where to worship. How on earth would he be able to make major decisions RE: a nation of 340 million? Where does it end?

Or perhaps Obama understood the situation the way REAL Christians do (and not the play-play phoneys spewing disingenious outrage): the focus should be on GOD, not the pastor---or any petty goings on within the church. A sermon should be like a smorgasbord: you take what you need and throw the rest away.

And that right there tells you why this whole Wright flap hasn't seemed to affect Obama's support---try as the M$M might....
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:47 AM
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3. agreed
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:47 AM
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5. Have you met MOE?
Margin Of Error, and her "lead" is within it...:D
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:56 AM
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15. You're correct. Poll shows a tie (46/44 MOE=3)
As soon as the poster didn't provide the numbers, I went to check. What's the usefulness of a national poll of Democratic candidates? It just shows the split between them. Meanwhile, back to the delegate count and the rules...Obama wins.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:01 AM
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20. And Gallup has Obama in the lead by 4 - which is above margin of error.
:)
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soundguy Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:48 AM
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6. Agreed!
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 10:49 AM by soundguy
To bad the Obamatrons are blinded by hope and rage. It would be funny if I didn't already know the end result if Obama is the nominee. It doesn't mean I have to like it but one would be wise to pay attention to the reality of the situation.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:48 AM
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7. 48-44 Obama in the latest Gallup trailing. nm
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:49 AM
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8. I disagree and the recent NBC poll (yesterday had Obama ahead).
My reasoning I think is logic based on the following: Obama is bringing in new voters and democrats which will be alienated if the superdelegates swing this against the pledged delegates and secondly, our victories depend on heavy minority turnout and if they feel they have been strongarmed, they will not show up in the numbers needed for victory.
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reflection Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:49 AM
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9. She is not leading him in anything
except the occasional stray data point on a poll here and there.

It's the delegates, baby.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:54 AM
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12. in her own mind
perhaps.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:50 AM
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10. If That Were True
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 10:50 AM by otohara
then she'd be ahead in the REAL race.
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:51 AM
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11. Based on Rass push polls? Haha
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:56 AM
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14. Hahaha...try again! LOL
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 10:59 AM
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17. Wrong - RCP Average 03/14 - 03/25 - 45.5 44.0 Obama +1.5
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

All polls average Obama +1.5

NBC/WSJ 03/24 - 03/25 RV 45 45 Tie
Gallup Tracking 03/22 - 03/25 1241 V 47 46 Obama +1.0
Rasmussen Tracking 03/22 - 03/25 900 LV 45 45 Tie
FOX News 03/18 - 03/19 388 RV 38 40 Clinton +2.0
CBS News 03/15 - 03/18 LV 46 43 Obama +3.0
CNN 03/14 - 03/16 463 RV 52 45 Obama +7.0
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:04 AM
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23. RCP average out weights a Republican pollster big-time. nt
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:00 AM
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18. Gallup has Barack solidly ahead...
just FYI
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:02 AM
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21. YES! k&r
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:02 AM
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22. His approval only went down 2 % over Wright. He is made of Teflon
On the other hand Hillary's approval is nosediving.
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:10 AM
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25. I think your wrong
Rasmussen Markets

National

To Win 2008 Democratic Presidential Nomination

Hillary Clinton
19.8

Barack Obama
78.6

To Win 2008 Presidential Election

Democratic Party Candidate
59.8

Republican Party Candidate
40.5


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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:23 AM
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27. Wow! You've convinced me!
:eyes:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:25 AM
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28. in the polls that have been take not in votes or delegates
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:25 AM
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29. Of course Gallup has Obama up so I guess it's the duel of which polls has your candidate ahead.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 11:54 AM
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32. Quoth the Cheney: "So?"
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:08 PM
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34. Well, if YOU'RE telling me more "stuff" is coming out, who am I to argue?
:eyes: :puke:
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