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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:24 PM Original message |
When Hillary pushes seating the MI delegates, she loses respect among intellectually honest people. |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. Agreed. |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Nonsense! The reason hers was the only one on the ballot is the others DROPPED OUT |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Regardless of whether you think |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. uh, Michigan went against the DNC rules, thus they deserved the action from DNC |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
69. And unlike Florida, they can't even blame the GOP |
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against all enemies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. In other words, Hillary was looking out for herself, while the others were |
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Rocky2007 (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. get a grip -- |
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Andromeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. That's exactly right! |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. Her interview yesterday on Faux has caused her to lose any shred of credibility |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
5. That group already doesn't support her. |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
6. Hillary is happy to have a do-over primary in Michigan. But Team Obama is preventing it. |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Again, |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Not really. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. 55% of of people voted for the only name they recognized on the ballot. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. That's both insulting and untrue; Hillary wasn't the only Democrat on the ballot. nt |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. RECOGNIZABLE |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. "Recognizable" is a weasle word here--*I* recognized the others |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Yeah, especially after all that campaigning they did in Michigan... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Thankfully, we benighted residents of Michigan have things called NEWSPAPERS |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Oh yes, the media, which equally covers ALL candidates... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. This is a particularly weak argument, considering the two best bankrolled |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Interesting that you understood the sarcasm in one statement, but not the other. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. This is what out of state cheerleaders don't get: IT'S NOT ABOUT YOUR CANDIDATE |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Um, Michigan IS my state. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Then you need to fight for your state to be heard, not silenced. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Lol. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. They were BOTH involved. The difference is, Hillary has addressed Michigan voters. Barack won't. |
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Andromeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
71. Hillary isn't picking and choosing who will vote. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
9. Four of the candidates were on the ballot in MI |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
10. Why is a black man supporting the disenfranchisement of so many black voters in MI & FL? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. I was told by an Obama supporter that it was because Michigan is an "overwhelmingly white state" |
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Lucky 13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
34. Why are you blaming Obama? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Dude, EVERY post can't rehash all the facts. Obama torpedoed the revote. nt |
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40ozDonkey (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
12. It's the only strategy she can come up with to get 65% of the vote. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
13. There ARE NO "Michigan delegates." The primary was ruled unconstitutional ... null and void. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. My quick reading is that the practice of turning over the voting list |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Wrong. The legislation had a 'nonseverability' clause ... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Do you have a link to the text of the opinion? nt |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Yup. Here it is ... it's a PDF file. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Danke schön. nt |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. Bitte schön. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Nonetheless |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. This is the operative language from the opinion |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. While there's little point in dissecting a FUBAR (fiasco) ... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #35 |
51. You just keep on pawing through that pile of dung trying to find something tasty. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. dung? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
43. The constitution has nothing in it about Primaries, because a |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Nonsense. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Link ? (n/t) |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. See post #32 above. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. That judgement deals with the Michigan Secretary of State providing |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
14. Can the Hillary people explain why she thought the DNC ruling |
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Lucky 13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
37. CRICKETS... and that's likely all you'll get... |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
15. No Democrat should be willing to concede MI to McCain |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I'm afraid it's a planned strategy to throw labor overboard |
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susankh4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. That is a serious contention |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
67. Ridiculous. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
16. Quite the opposite |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
25. Why do Obama supporters want to deprive Dems of their vote? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Why don't Hillary supporters respect the constitution? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Please read my sig. It applies in this instance. Your responses to this individual are fruitless. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Meh. I've given up on them. |
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Lucky 13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Why did she agree to it? |
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wileedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
59. Because they broke the rules. |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
66. A vote in which only HC supporters had a voice? |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
30. Trying to Convince Pledged Delegates to Change Was The Last Straw For Me |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
62. How can you deny fellow Dems the right to have their votes counted? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Hillary had no problem with it.... in October..... why is that? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Because Obama and Hillary didn't think they'd matter, and were going to seat them anyway. |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Yeah, and after all, those 99% of Iraqis who voted for Hussein in his sham elections |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Stick to the OP and be a constructive discussant. |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
68. Kick. nt |
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