madfloridian
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Fri Apr-04-08 01:24 AM
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I did not expect the down in the mud tactics from the Clinton campaign. |
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I did not even pick a candidate until the day she came out saying that Florida's delegates must count.
I knew right then that she was using them for her own benefit. She had already said they would not count, any more than Michigan.
I loved the Clintons through the 90s. I defended him strongly during the Lewinsky times and even before that with the others.
I trusted him completely as president. I do not like what I am seeing now. I want to keep respecting them, but they have to deserve it.
They are good people who had 2004 as a "placeholder" for her run this year. It hurt good people also.
They are good people who thought this was their year, and now it turns out it may not be.
Dean picked up the pieces and started over working to change the party. Kerry did not pout, he worked hard in the senate, and speaks out frequently now.
It may not be her year, and she should not destroy the good things and the good people in the party to keep her dream.
It hurts to see it.
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Fri Apr-04-08 01:31 AM
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Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 01:33 AM by SunsetDreams
If it was the other way around, she wouldn't be calling for those votes to count. For Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan, and part of February, she never uttered a word. She still stood by her agreement that "those states wouldn't count for anything." Once she starts losing badly, all of a sudden she starts talking about "disenfranchizing" voters, the very voters she agreed to "disenfranchize."
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:09 AM
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2. Have you been living in a cave since 1992? |
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This what the Clintons do. This is their style. It's how they win.
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Fri Apr-04-08 09:46 AM
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Fri Apr-04-08 10:28 AM
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18. The Clintons' only true political philosophy is that winning hides a lot of sins |
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They've always been down in the dirt political fighters. It's just that they haven't had to go up against a Dem since early '92.
Their biggest flaws this year are:
1. Hillary is not a natural politician like Bill. Bill could stab you in the back while kissing you on the cheek. Hillary telegraphs her punches.
2. Bill is a terrible secondary force on a campaign. He needs the spotlight and seems to regard every punch thrown at Hillary as punch thrown towards him. If anything, this campaign has proven that they do have a solid marriage, because only a husband in love with his wife would react the way Bill does at times.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:38 AM
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3. Disappointed it's not going your way? |
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:43 AM
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4. Quick reminder: False accusations of dirty campaigning constitute dirty campaigning. |
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:46 AM
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5. I see no false accusations. |
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Clinton has been not just down in the dirt, but in the mud pit.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:48 AM
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6. You Obama people need to learn that repeating a lie over and over doesn't make it true. |
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Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 05:48 AM by Perry Logan
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:50 AM
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:50 AM
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8. Oh please Perry, Take your spin somewhere else. |
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We both know what she's doing here. Denial is not a river.
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Fri Apr-04-08 05:52 AM
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Fri Apr-04-08 07:06 AM
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10. There is no such thing as "diry campaigning" or "dirty politics" |
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If Obama IS eventually the Nominee, you people supporting him now haven't seen anything yet concerning the mud Obama and his wife will be dragged through.
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Fri Apr-04-08 07:10 AM
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11. If you people KNOW something, bring it on or |
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STFU. I'm sick to death of these vague innuendos and extortionistic statements from Hillary supporters. Either get it out or just shut up.
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Fri Apr-04-08 03:18 PM
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19. "diry campaigning" or "dirty politics" |
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Anybody have a pacifier DemVet can suck on?
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Fri Apr-04-08 07:17 AM
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12. I've never seen a Dem nominee do this |
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it's unprecedented really
McCain lives in a glass house with his associations
there is NO WORRY
it's just fearmongering by desperate clinton supporters
online, half of whom, are republican operatives
National Polls, Obama wins and Clinton loses
Until Clinton went berserker, he won by a landslide against McCain
So she diminished the other candidate and only succeeded in driving up her own, already horrific negatives...
and she still loses... pathetic and wrong
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Fri Apr-04-08 07:22 AM
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13. The Clintons live in their own world |
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I've been off here for 4 days (surgery) and I come back to see that not alot has changed except the level of "unreality" within the Clinton campaign.
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Fri Apr-04-08 07:30 AM
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14. The only reason the Obama campaign is not "down in the mud" |
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is because the media does not say it is. No matter what HRC does, it all gets defined by the media and repeated by the Obama folks as negative while Obama is still getting a huge PASS from the media.
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Fri Apr-04-08 08:15 AM
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Obama has run a divisive campaign from the beginning, back when it was time to jettison old fossils like Teddy Kennedy and Tom Hayden (what a difference a few months can make!). But the corpmedia have been very gentle with Obama despite it all. He's their man--until he gets the nomination.
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Fri Apr-04-08 10:23 AM
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17. Obama promoted an attribute fo McCain over Hillary? that's rises to the level of "down in the mud" |
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