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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:12 PM Original message |
Who is the real "phony"? Tax returns reveal compassion isn't just words for Clintons, Edwardses |
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Mezzo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. The Obamas did not have as much to give? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. That has nothing to do with percentages |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Well.. i'm a horrible person then, |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Do you go on television, speak in front of crowds calling for more compassion? |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
50. It's called "sweat equity", They never had the opportunity to make such large donations. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. "$259,394 is not 50+ million" |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. They also had student loans up until recently that they were still paying off. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. If I gave $10 and you gave $10 million, but you |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Google |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. That's pathetic. The sources, except the first, are RW and |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. PS how do you defend Obama--once again--saying one thing, doing another? |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. So sad... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. LOLOL |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Pathological hatred does sad things to people. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Pathological hatred from Obama - I don't understand - he is just proven cheap and uncaring |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. it's not Obama |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Oh look a little group denial pow wow! Hillary got caught telling lies. Hillary is losing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Deleted sub-thread |
ORDagnabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. didnt the clintons donate most of their money to themselves? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. You know that money went to good causes but you choose to mock the Clintons anyway!! |
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ORDagnabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. please detail where exactly the money went. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. log onto the Clinton foundation. |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
56. what if we all opened up our own personal charities? |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
58. Yes. And 75% of it hasn't yet been disbursed, so they get to look charitable while |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. And what % did you give? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. Only 5 million went to any charity use. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Your argument is they "only" give 12.5x more than the Obamas instead of 25x more in percentage terms |
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godai (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. For every $1M charitable deduction, they saved about $300K in taxes. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. I think I'm ready to run for President on day one |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. U got my vote. |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. What a crappy thread. The Obamas were still paying off school loans. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. They were real paupers at $259,394 a year |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. And don't forget $10k a year for the kiddies' dance lessons! |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Back in 2002... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. The average American makes about $30,000 and gives 2.2% |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. After he got in the Senate, wifey was given a job paying a lot more than |
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Aussie leftie (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
39. If it was the Clintons who only gave 0.4% |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. Let it go. This is silly. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Hypocrisy is no big deal for Obamanation--except when they used it to savage Edwards and attack Hill |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. The Clintons gave 10 million to their own charity org which spent very little of it. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. So your argument is the Clintons "only" gave 12.5x more in percentage terms? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. No argument at all. Just saying that they gave the money to their own charity which spent... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Half of their charity went to that. Where did Obama's 0.4% go? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I'm sorry. Did Obama make 109 million during the same time? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. That has nothing to do with percentages. Obama made about 10x more than the average American |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. So you are more concerned with the percentage when 100% of the Clintons donations went to their .... |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. Do you ever post positive threads about Hillary? |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Well there's the charity thing...and...and...well, nothing else, really. n/t |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. very few of them do... |
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Duder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
29. Inflated biographies |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
37. K&R. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
42. Thanks and REC |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
43. This whole discussion is beyond tacky. Charitable giving should |
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Levgreee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
47. Yes, but what about all the other years where they gave up to 6.1%? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. So he he was a hypocrite until he began running for president? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
48. oh no another post about obama being a cheap ass |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-07-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
52. k/r |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-08-08 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
57. Oh yeah, they're generous all right. $10M to their OWN foundation of which they've only |
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