Electoral-Vote is showing Obama will place some big states in play - Great Graph!

[Divine Discontent]

http://www.electoral-vote.com/


The brown colored states are early close races between Obama and McSame, but, for example, Obama is close to McSame in Nebraska - Hillary loses in polling to him by 27%! She also loses Democratic bellwether states of Washington and Oregon, where Obama beats him.

Check it out at the link above. (West Virginia cracks me up - Clinton beats McSame there by 5, but Obama loses by 17 there - the only state with that type of double-digit spread in her favor where he loses)

[bhikkhu]

1. OH, PA & NY all going Dem

for either Hillary or Obama. It is pretty early to be enthusiastic over close races...but I think our party has all the advantages, and the other has only sh*te to sling.

[Zachstar]

2. Obama will win those states easily in my view.

After we get to the GE and McCain's crap is exposed those states and many others will go blue in my view.

[Divine Discontent]

3. I think most Americans will pay attention this time - a victory for democracy! eom

[Ilithiad]

4. I will say it again

Lets say Obama wins as president but what about congress....democrats need to maintain control of congress if Obama will accomplish anything...Historically a democratic president is saddled with a republican congress and vice versa. This was true during clinton's administration and is true during Bush's current term as president. Presidents dont accomplish much if his or her party is not in control of Congress. Obama may turn red states to blue states for the presidential election but those red states will continue to vote red for congressional elections.

[Divine Discontent]

5. That is a good point

Obviously, Clinton won't even turn (any) red states blue to even be given that chance, and we'd have to rely on her winning states like Missouri, Colorado, or Washington - and that's questionable.

[Ilithiad]

8. I agree...

Clinton wont turn any red states(They hate her with a deep abiding passion and the question remains WHY do they hate her so much? Because she is the greatest threat to the right wing movement. Obama leans left but not as much as her) blue so her chances against mccain are not as good as Obama's but time and time againt when a democrat is elected president those red states power put a republican chain around the democrat president's neck. NO matter who is the democrat nominee we must remian control of the Senate-Hopefully with more democrats and less republicans and the House.

[newmajority]

6. You're forgetting all the new voters that Obama has brought into the process.

They could well make the difference in congressional races, especially in the open seats where the 'Puke incumbent is retiring.

But if Hillary were to "acquire" the nomination through dishonorable means - which is about the only way she can get it at this point - those new voters may not show up. And some of the old ones might not either. :evilfrown:

[Ilithiad]

7. And your forgetting

Thaat obaama beat clinton in red states and some of those states allow republicans to vote in democratic primaries and those votes will not return to him in November. Those republicans that voted for Obama were probably under the false belief that the republican nominee would have a much better chance against Obama than Hillary. The playout of this primary process has proven that belief to be a grevious error. In my opinion I believe mcLame has about equal chance against hillary and obama. Either way we will have a democratic president, but that is not the issue....retaining control of congress is the real prize becasue control of the senate and the house enables Hillary or Obama to get their agenda passed as law easier. Obama may have a reputation of crossing the isle but republicans will view his comments about small town pa as too far to the left to be out of mainstream america and they will suceed. "chuch clinging..." going to offend christian right wing voters...."gun toting"...offends another republican base...progun people...."anti-immigrant..." basically calling them racist and that will certain add to a potential coup of congress for republicans...."anti-trade" could play into republican or democrat hands.

[cali]

9. you evidently don't know much about Senate and House races

this year. Here's just a bit on some Senate races: In Alaska, Mark Begich is now tied with Ted Stevens. In NM, Udall is up over twenty points over both his potential opponents. Mark Warner is up over 20 pts over Gilchrist in VA. Shaheen consistently out polls Sununu in NH.
Mark Udall is doing well against Schaeffer in CO, and a new scandal just broke about Schaeffer and Abramoff. In MN, Franken is a few points behind Coleman, but it's competitive. And in Oregon and even NE, dems have a fighting chance. And yes, we're on track to pick up at least 8 House seats.