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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:47 PM
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"Why didn't Obama rip Hillary apart?? Is he weak?!?!?"
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:48 PM by GarbagemanLB
No. He's smart. He's ahead, and he will likely be the nominee. He doesn't want to alienate Hillary's devoted base too much, so he is not pushing bullshit stories like Bosnia, like he could (could you imagine an Obama ad ripping Hillary apart for that lie? It is too easy).

Like he said earlier today in NC, he is restraining himself, because she is a fellow Democrat and he knows it only further weakens the party if he goes on an all out attack.


And for you Hillary supporters, let me ask you this: Say the 5% chance Hillary becomes the nominee actually comes to pass. Do you really think harping consistently on this 'bitter' gaffe, her leaping onto the ABC host's attacks on Wright, Ayers, bitter, etc. are beneficial in healing the wounds? She is giving more and more excuses to Obama's devoted followers to NOT support her if she becomes the nominee.

THAT is why the polls are going down for her and THAT is why people are booing her for this 'bitter' bullshit. It is ONLY detrimental to the party.

Thankfully, Dean sees this and came out today to request that SDs start voicing their choices starting now. This needs to have an endpoint in the near future.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:48 PM
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1. He doesn't have to. Hillary is doing a fine job of it herself.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:50 PM
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2. This is true!
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:56 PM
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8. Agreed.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:50 PM
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3. The more they hear her, the more they hate her.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:50 PM
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4. Because if he HAD ripped Hillary apart, this thread would be titled
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 08:52 PM by rocknation
"Is Obama's uncontrollable rage at Hillary based on his hatred of women or of whites?"

:crazy:
rocknation
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:57 PM
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10. I'd laugh, except you're telling the truth.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:02 PM
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15. You got it nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:00 AM
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41. and whispered as " Scary big black man intimidates former first lady"
:(
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:51 PM
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5. Lying about sniper fire is not a bullshit story
He's just learned that you can't say spit to Hillary without the women's groups attacking the media.
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:10 PM
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22. Exactly, it's an extremely relevant story.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 09:11 PM by Arrowhead2k1
It exposes a serious credibility issue on her part. She, for the first time, has now admitted to saying things she knew weren't true! That's a fucking problem missy. An untruthful Clinton has already caused enough damage to the Democratic party in the past. What will she be untruthful about next?
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:51 PM
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6. As long as she keeps throwing grenades straight up, he doesn't need to toss any at her...
..
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:51 PM
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7. he doesn't want to stoop to her level. nt
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:56 PM
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9. He took a pass on the Bosnia thing but was not above "cookies"
I support Obama but just because he has not jumped on the Bosnia bandwagon does not mean he is unwilling to respond. The Weatherman pardons show he is not afraid to get into the gutter.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:58 PM
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11. Has he made a commercial about her gaffes? Has he made a commercial about her 'cookies' comment?
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:32 PM
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33. She can't even manage her own presidential campaign , much less the country! nt
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:43 AM
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37. It is possible I misundertood
I honestly thought this was about the debate.

I live in Texas so I do not know what ads are being played in PA, IN, and NC.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:58 AM
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40. He said the cookies story was irrelevant as is the "bitter" story
he didn't say it was important

he said it was not important
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:01 PM
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12. Hillary is brilliant
It's too bad she will most likely not be the nominee. A true lost opportunity to elect the most competent candidate.

Suggestion - urge Obama to hire Hillary so he can learn how to do it.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:01 PM
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13. She can't even beat him.
What does he have to learn?
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:06 PM
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19. You think Obama is perfect then? As a candidate?
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 09:07 PM by JoFerret
Not to mention mastery of the details and commanding grasp of policy.
Do Obama dems realize her competence in these things? (This is irrespective of whether they like her or not.)
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:15 PM
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23. No, of course not, and she is intelligent.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 09:17 PM by Starbucks Anarchist
But to view Hillary as some sort of oracle of knowledge is just silly.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:07 PM
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21. What can't he close the sale? At least that is what I heard some pundits
discussing yesterday on the Bill Press show.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:17 PM
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24. He's practically won already.
Hillary needs 65% in all the remaining contests to win, which is not possible.

And it's ironic that the onus is on Obama when he was the newcomer who took on one of the most powerful Dems in the country -- the question shoud be, why can't Hillary win?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:20 PM
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27. Because only time can do that. Duh. Or don't you want everyone to vote?
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:21 PM
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29. Because she is a good opponent and has a loyal, hard-fighting following, and he is trying to
walk a line between winning the nomination and not destroying his opponent and pissing off her followers at the same time.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:22 PM
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30. good answer
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:53 PM
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36. Yep.
And he is NOT going to pull his punches in the GE.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:03 AM
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42. early voting in CA.."Odd" numbers in NH
ZERO votes in Harlem :eyes:

for starters.. and the fact that 11 in a row on one day would have been enough for MOST opponents to bow out gracefully.. The "person" in question here is a graceless woman..
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:50 PM
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34. If she is so competent
why is she losing?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:01 PM
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14. He has alienated much of her base with his..
race card crap.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:06 PM
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No, He alienated racists the moment he decided to run for president. The rest are just excuses.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 09:07 PM by DerekJ
;-)
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:26 PM
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32. exactly. n/t
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:50 AM
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39. I agree completely
There's a whole lot of lame excuses that are just a cover up for racism. Every time I read someone's comment about how arrogant Obama was I figured that was their whitewashed way to say he was uppity. Same with elitist.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:04 AM
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43. How many moons does your planet have?
:rofl:
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:03 PM
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16. Hillary is stronger when she's a victim.
So, why attack her and let her play victim?

There's another thread about this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5557255
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:03 PM
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17. He defended himself fine, talked down this kind of crappy politics, and was a CLASS ACT !
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:04 PM
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18. Agreed. He's too smart to fall for her attempts to draw fire.
She's always looking for another opportunity to whelp "see, he's picking on me again, and I'M A GIRL!!"
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:06 PM
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20. That's PRECISELY correct.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 09:06 PM by quantass
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:18 PM
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25. Obama thinks of the big picture..
hialry is all about whatever she thinks is going to get her through the day.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:19 PM
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26. Change "likely" into "almost certainly".
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:21 PM
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28. Hillary slashed and burned herself at last night's debate:


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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:23 PM
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31. Obama doesn't need to rip her apart. He has the media to do it for him (eom)
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sakura Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:53 PM
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35. No, he's not weak. He's presidential.
He's got class. This is the way candidates are supposed to act. Just because one party chooses the gutter as their habitat doesn't mean that democrats have to, as well. Once he's officially the nominee, I hope that Hillary's supporters remember the many occasions where Barack could have attacked and chose not to do so. He's been extending the olive branch all along to her supporters.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 12:44 AM
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38. Amen, right on, and thank you! n/t
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:16 AM
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44. "He's a gentleman, it's 'bout time somebody behave right"
Read this post about an 82 year old's response to the debate and why Obama doesn't "go for the kill" with Hillary

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5559015&mesg_id=5559015


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