In case you Clinton supporters had forgotten, MoveOn.org was created to DEFEND Bill Clinton

[mrreowwr_kittty]

And mitigate the damage from the witchhunt conducted against him.

A short history

MoveOn.org Civic Action was started by Joan Blades and Wes Boyd, two Silicon Valley entrepreneurs. Although neither had experience in politics, they shared deep frustration with the partisan warfare in Washington D.C. and the ridiculous waste of our nation's focus at the time of the impeachment mess. On September 18th 1998, they launched an online petition to "Censure President Clinton and Move On to Pressing Issues Facing the Nation." Within days they had hundreds of thousands of individuals signed up, and began looking for ways these voices could be heard.

http://moveon.org/about.html

So when your candidate dismisses the organization as a bunch of out-of-touch and expendable lefties, and you join her in it, you are spitting in the faces of the very people who put themselves out there to help President Clinton. And you should be ashamed.

[splat]

1. DU wasn't originally created for Obama either

[mrreowwr_kittty]

4. No, but the majority of members gravitated to him. What's your point? nt

[splat]

10. Those aren't Democratic sites any more, they're Obama's tools

[JI7]

12. Democratic sites usually end up tools for the party nominees

[splat]

13. When they're seized by one candidate not the nominee, should we call it a coup?

[Zachstar]

27. No we call it natural.

What the hell is wrong with you?

[Tellurian]

31. Exactly...a power grab..

and Move-On betrayed it's membership and it's mission..

[roguevalley]

59. so polling the membership and doing their will is a betrayal? In the

world of hillarity, up is down, green is blue.

[AllentownJake]

34. Siezed?

I think Move On went quite willingly lol.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

48. If Obama's been able to seize all the lefty websites, that's pretty impressive.

How does he find the time to do that, while campaigning full time?

[mckeown1128]

52. Obama is the nominee.. I am sorry to be the one to have to tell you. nt

[roguevalley]

58. seized? Your political ideology- which sounds somewhat to the

right of Ghengis Khan- is showing, splat.

[melody]

14. No, they're Democratic sites supporting the Democratic nominee ... Barack Obama

He's our nominee, whether you like it or not.

He's the only real Democrat left in the race anyway.

[splat]

15. Reality: We do not have a nominee yet; Obamacrats are a subset of Democrats

[Emit]

16. And they out number Hillary supporters. So, what's your point?

I'm not following your logic here.

[melody]

17. It is numerically *impossible* for Hillary to be nominated ... do you also believe in fairies?

I'm afraid your Tinkerbell isn't coming back to life.

[algol]

19. Come on now, I'm still holding out for Tink.

Hillary is toast, but Tinkerbell just needs me to believe.

[melody]

20. Okay, maybe Tink, but Hillarbell is history lol n/t

[cali]

32. I actually agree with that. We don't have a nominee yet

but we do have a candidate who's likely to be the nominee. That would be Obama.

[Shae]

43. and the candidate who is likely to be the nominee

is being contiually trashed by the candidate who is very unlikely to be the nominee.

What's up with that?

[Mme. Defarge]

55. Good summary,

good question.

[PoliticalAmazon]

60. But we are still Dem Party voters and I'm tired of the DNC remaining silent while Hillary slams us..

Enough. If the DNC and other DemoCelebrities like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer and Ted Kennedy can't be bothered to stand up for Democratic Party members being slammed by the Clintons, then, if our votes are worth so little to them, perhaps we should not bother them with our votes in November.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5571194&mesg_id=5579019

[Califooyah Operative]

28. haha. Keep telling yourself that. nt

[roguevalley]

57. you don't know what democracy is, splat. too bad for you. I guess

we didn't get the memo that to be a dem, you have to support the dame.

[Jawja]

38. I thought it was

DEMOCRATIC Underground and Obama is a Democratic candidate for President. Did I miss something? :shrug:

[Hugabear]

21. Oh, grow the fuck up already

DU is neither an Obama site nor a Hillary site.

So what if there are more Obama supporters here? Guess what? Obama leads in the popular vote also! There are more people nationwide supporting Obama than Hillary!

And last I checked, there were still plenty of Hillary supporters here. There are still pro-Hillary threads in GDP. Hillary still has her own sub-forum here on DU.

[Zachstar]

26. Bingo!! Thank you

[PoliticalAmazon]

62. It's much easier to blame sites and Obama supporters than the source of the problem...

...Hillary's negative campaigning alienating Democratic Party voters.

Hillary started out WAY ahead of Obama in the polls. Remember, she was the inevitable candidate.

Obama was virtually unknown on the national level.

However, the more voters have seen of both of them, the more they have recoiled from Hillary and gravitated to Obama.

That is Hillary's fault, not the fault of the Democratic Party voters who did not like what they saw in her campaign tactics.

What I want to know is this: when will the DNC and the DemoCelebrities like Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy and Boxer stand up for the Democratic Party voters who do not support Hillary and who have been repeatedly insulted by the Clintons?

Their silence is telling us loud and clear: your votes are worthless.

If that is the case, perhaps we shouldn't bother them with our votes in November.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5571194&mesg_id=5579019

[Zachstar]

25. Why are you still here then?

DU is an open site. It was not created for Obama.

But I guess that is against the fantasy that multiple Clinton supporters have.

[yellowcanine]

40. Well boo hoo the most solidly Democratic online groups support Obama.

Deal with it, don't whine about it.

[Danger Mouse]

42. get over yourself. the majority of du'ers support obama.

that doesn't mean there was any kind of 'take over'

[EFerrari]

2. Exactly. It doesn't get more ugly than that. n/t

[FrenchieCat]

3. She dismisses Move-On in order to play to the White man rural vote.....

They generally don't "like" these organizations.....and so the connotation of Move-on being associated to Obama is what she's going for.

She is trying to make Obama out to be a extremist left winger.

Biotch!

[Syrinx]

8. and yet, in 1995, she said "screw 'em"

Referring to the white man rural vote.

And she is trying to make O to be a radical lefty, and a Republican appeaser, all in one. :shrug:

[mcctatas]

9. She's not a flip flopper...

she's a vote whore! :grr:

[FrenchieCat]

24. And her 'screw 'em" comment not getting much coverage if you've noticed....

CBS news covered it pretty well....but I don't know about the others because I don't watch them.

[Kber]

41. Is it the day for Obama to be a radical lefty?

I get them mixed up with the days he's a wimpy elitest.

:)

[mrreowwr_kittty]

50. Don't forget Angry Black Militant Day!! nt

[kevinmc]

5. And the Members Voted on who to back .....and Obama won ..she has no bitch .....

she just can't understand why nobody is fawning over her like she is a queen.

[FrenchieCat]

6. She doesn't want Move-on fawning over her....she wants to use Move-on fawning over Obama

as a tool against him. She doesn't give a shit about netroots.

She's out of money and she has to do something.

[grantcart]

7. we are seeing the ultimate reduction of politics as not simply an expression of

personal institution but of immediate personal institution. Not what have you done for me lately but what have you done in the last ten minutes.

Bill Richardson smelled this out and bailed out first.

[Shae]

44. exactly what I was thinking ...

moveon.org has fullfilled and outlived its purpose. Now it's just another Judas since it now won't fall in line for the Clintons.

[Clintonista2]

11. I seem to remember Clinton voting AGAINST condemning moveon. How did your messiah vote again?

[cali]

33. yes, your little tin goddess of war voted against condemning

MoveOn. Tough shit for you, that they endorsed him.

[roguevalley]

61. "messiah" projecting much?

[MagickMuffin]

18. Oh Oh Oh, Bite the hand that Feeds YOU

Hillary has NEVER really appreciated the Democratic Party. Only the DLC branch of the Party. We need to saw off the DLC branch and burn it so it NEVER comes back.

I guess she isn't as SMART as she thinks she is. She only likes us when it's time for OUR votes. Then it's time to throw us overboard after she gets elected.

edit: forgot to :kick: & RRRRRR

[TragedyandHope]

22. Another Inconvient Truth

that doesn't fit Hillary's narrative du jour.

[MagickMuffin]

23. Yep, She can't SEE the Forest for the Trees

I like your pic, here's one of mine.

[4themind]

29. For people who demand so much loyalty...

They exhibit a shocking lack of it themselves....

[40ozDonkey]

39. Loyalty is for the little people. n/t

[meow mix]

30. K&R clintons are mentally ill

[Mezzo]

35. and in case YOU'VE forgotten MoveOn endorsed BO months and months ago.

[Shae]

45. wasn't it voted on by the moveon membership?

[PM7nj]

51. Yes. Obama won overwhelmingly.

[book_worm]

36. yeah, but Move-On hasn't done anything for them lately.

like Richardson. So to the Clinton's "Fuck 'em."

[madrchsod]

37. ashamed?

she uses who and what ever she can to demean her fellow democrats by using republicans and thier talking points against them...shame? she does`t know what that word means

[Maribelle]

46. I don't believe it is the Clinton supporters that have forgotten.

They clearly remember the sham of an online vote with which MoveOn claimed their members wanted them to support Obama - - and then MoveOn proceeded to attempt to thwart Hillary's campaign.

Many MoveOn members then spit and quit, and said damn you MoveOn and the Trojan Horse you rode in on.

[nichomachus]

47. It would be more correct to say

That MoveOn was formed to do what was best for the country, and at that time, that was putting an end to the mess that Clinton, with his selfish and stupid high-school sexual antics had gotten us into.

It was never about being a pro-Clinton organization. But Hillary and her follower are stuck in the binary world of George Bush -- "you are either for us or you hate us."

[mrreowwr_kittty]

49. They weren't pro-Clinton but they didn't want him to be impeached

They didn't believe his conduct rose to the level of an impeachable offense. That was the catalyst of their formation.

[Why Syzygy]

53. If blm is right, and I think she is, the Clintons welcomed

blowjob-gate. It was to hide the Bushes thievery of our treasury. Worked well. Moveon no help.

[ORDem]

54. Joan and Wes are now dead to the Clintons. nt

[pompano]

56. Move off....

appropriately named so the movement can see something besides the bottom of the bus.

When self centered politicians are done using people the people are usually as expendable as yesterdays garbage. If I didn't know better I would say this sounds like a Hillary Clinton/kitchen sink/ desperation move once again? And she wonders why she'll problably be a Senator for the next few years, perhaps longer if New York politics is more forgiving than I would think.

Say it ain't so.

[Skip Intro]

63. I don't think Clinton supporters forgot that, I think MoveOn did.

[democracy1st]

64. thanks

:kick: