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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:07 AM
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NPR just reported on Clinton slamming Obama for Criticizing bU$H!
She said it was wrong for Obama to say any 3 of them would be better than bu$h, but wasn't it Clinton who had said McCain was more qualified than Obama? Has she fallen through the looking glass? Since when would a Dem Criticize another over attacks directed at the WORST! pResident ever?
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:08 AM
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1. she probably just has to hear his name to start slamming him...
...doesn't matter what he says
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:10 AM
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2. She's on autopilot now.
Anything Obama says needs to be twisted into something bad. Where have we seen these tactics before?
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:35 AM
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27. Mayday! Mayday! Eject! Eject!
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:35 AM
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28. More like auto-destruct.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 08:37 AM by InAbLuEsTaTe
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:30 PM
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58. Not necessarily. There could be a perfectly plausible explaination
See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5602688&mesg_id=5603617

When you here her chanting "Reagan, Reagan, Reagan", you will know I am right.

I give her another 3 or 4 days before that phase starts up.

She is not crazy. Just ambitious.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:10 AM
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3. hell, Clinton, my DOG MILLIE would be better than Bush
(my dog's name has been changed to protect her identity and for greater snark factor).
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:12 AM
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Your comment is disrespectful of Canine Americans everywhere!
;)

Seriously...I never thought even Clinton would stoop so low as to criticize a fellow Dem over a comment against bu$h.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:20 AM
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10. are you calling me a bitter, kool-aid drinking, misogynistic,
hope-mongering, species-ist?

What did I leave out? I think I'm missing about 2 words.
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simmonsj811 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:48 AM
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38.  and don't forget
the run of the mill C students:hi: :rofl:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:04 AM
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21. You have to wonder who pisses in her corn flakes every morning, don't you?
It is always THE WORST possible presentation of herself which could be devised.
ROVE couldn't cast her more negatively.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:32 AM
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25. That would be Hillary.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:51 AM
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48. Any American citizen, chosen at random for any phone directory
would be a better President than Bush. Bush is a arch criminal.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:10 AM
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4. She also was trying to make a big deal about Obama saying
something good about McCain.

I swear her campaign is in some alternate reality and she her advisers suck.

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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:49 AM
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17. Shark jump #19. When will it end?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:07 AM
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22. I don't think she has advisers any more.
I think she has broken the leash.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:19 AM
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34. bU$H ADVOCATED TORTURE for God's sake no one can pin even that on McCain!
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:18 AM
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51. You can pin that on McCain. He voted against the anti-torture bill.
McCain, torture victim, is now pro-torture.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:22 AM
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36. Saying that anybody would be better than Bush is damning with faint praise n/t
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:11 AM
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5. Clinton has Obamatourettes, it's a new disease
She hears his name and has a violent reaction regardless of what was said.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:51 AM
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39. She reminds me of Bela Lugosi in Tim Burton's biopic of Ed Wood
"Karloff? That cocksucker!"
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:12 AM
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6. You're listening with prejudice. She said no such thing, and you know it.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 07:12 AM by MethuenProgressive
Shame on you.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:13 AM
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7. So Hillary is defending Bush???
wha... ?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:15 AM
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8. Give me a break! Remember Hil's praising McSame as crossing commander-in-chief threshold, etc...
Hillary: McCain Has Crossed "Commander In Chief Threshold"
By Greg Sargent - March 6, 2008, 6:18PM

Surrounded by retired military leaders at an event today, Hillary continued with her strategy of spotlighting McCain's national security credentials as a way to argue that she's the Dem who can beat him in November:

“I think that since we now know Sen. McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it’s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold,” the New York senator told reporters crowded into an infant’s bedroom-sized hotel conference room in Washington.

“I believe that I’ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you’ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy,” she said.

Calling McCain, the presumptive GOP nominee a good friend and a “distinguished man with a great history of service to our country,” Clinton said, “Both of us will be on that stage having crossed that threshold."


The other day, Hillary sparked a bunch of criticism by arguing that she and McCain would put forth a "lifetime of experience." People pointed out that this was tailor made for political ads against Obama in a general election.

But this seems to go farther -- here she's arguing that he's crossed the threshold to be president in a category that she says is crucial in our next leader.

Hillary supporters privately defend this sort of thing by pointing out that she's never explicitly said that Obama wouldn't be an able commander-in-chief, though this seems to sidle up to that.

Either way, if your strategy is to highlight McCain's commander-in-chief credentials in order to suggest that they should make Dems nervous about Obama's chances against him, then you have to, you know, highlight McCain's commander-in-chief credentials.

But pumping up McCain to this extent risks provoking a backlash from rank-and-file Dems. The question I have is whether Obama will be able to capitalize on this, perhaps by using it to further his efforts to tie Hillary to McCain and to present himself as the only real candidate capable of drawing a clear contrast with him.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/hillary_mccain_has_crossed_com.php
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:15 AM
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9. Obama = Obamacan's
BIG FAIL! hahahah~
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:21 AM
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11. LOLOMG! CLINTON EPIC FAILS!
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:24 AM
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12. That FAIL picture...
...cracks me the hell up. And wtf is this story? This cannot be. *brain explodes*
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:31 AM
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13. They played a clip-no transcript yet but I have to believe this clip will be repeated.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:37 AM
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14. To understand how Clinton holds on, consider what the administrator
of her fanatics website said,

I said a while back - if you want to know Obama's true position on any potentially contentious issue,
it's often helpful to think of the opposite of everything he says.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:38 AM
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15. Hey hillary, check your inbox!
<>
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:40 AM
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16. She's completely come off the tracks - CNN is now saying she's courting Mellonhead
and Rupert and Limpballs and so on. What a disaster. I didn't believe until today that she's actually trying to sink Obama's campaign so she can run in 2012. Now I believe it.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:58 AM
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19. It's ALL about 2012. Been that way for a while now. How else do you explain the Hillarian tactics?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:12 AM
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40. She's partnered up with alot of people who don't have the best interests of the US in mind
I don't understand why her supporters now suddenly feel warm and fuzzy about endorsements from Fox News, Murdoch, Mellon Scaife, and other malignant forces.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:34 PM
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59. I have a theory that explains all of this
And it doesn't involve any mental illness, unless you consider obsessive lifelong ambition a mental illness.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5602688&mesg_id=5603617
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:57 AM
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18. Do you have the quote, in context? I think there must be some misunderstanding here.
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:02 AM
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20. Yeah, the misunderstanding is Hillary.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:33 AM
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26. I listened to it twice. That's exactly what NPR is saying she said. nt
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:33 AM
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45. That's NPR's characterization through a third party.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:00 AM
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30. it will be on the npr site sometime today
i`m not sure why she would say something like that
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:17 AM
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33. I don't either. That's why I think there must be some misunderstanding. I would
like to see her actual quote, in context, not someones interpretation of her remarks.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:34 AM
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46. Thaaaank you!
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:21 AM
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23. For the love of humanity...
make it stop.



*in the interest of honesty I must admit I copied this post from C_U_L8R*... in made me laugh in the midst of a very tiresome thread and now it's all I can think of when I read something like this:D
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:28 AM
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24. Don't such statements pretty much proove anything anyone has ever said about her being a TrojanHorse
for the neo-cons?

She's bidding for Bush's voters.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:17 AM
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32. I heard spin of this on Air Am Bill Press show (Hillary supporter) that Obama shouldn't
have praised McCain by saying Bush is the worst but WTF bU$H ADVOCATED TORTURE IN OUR NAME, so can someone please tell me how this can be legitimately (In a realistic non koolaid universe) used against Obama?
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:20 AM
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35. Saying bush is the worst is praise for McCain?
and didn't she already praise McCain's experience and slam Obama in the same sentence? :wtf: is wrong with her?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:33 AM
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37. Today was my final day listening to Bill Press-back to NPR in the AM for moi!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 12:17 PM
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57. Ahhh, but we DO live in a Koolaid Universe.
This is why Obama is right not to go chasing after every last one of these pieces of crap. Although because of bad dreams leftover from the Kerry campaign, I have to admit that I do hope there IS someone out there in Obama's campaign who does have the responsibility of being "the bad cop" on this stuff.
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 08:48 AM
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29. I will support whomever the nominee is, but to qoute NPR as
a reliable source is not a good idea, they really don't give any Dem a fair shake.....I know I know it used to be a bastion for the Left but not anymore....IMHO!
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 09:04 AM
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31. K & R
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:14 AM
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41. Ahhh, Obama didn't lie...Sorry Hillary. My 3rd grader could have done a better job.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:15 AM
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42. sorry....I would have to hear this to believe it..no one is that stupid.
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Diana Prince Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:25 AM
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43. Hillary is at it again.
Somehow Hillary forgot what she said about McShame. Post # 8 gives an example of her hypocrisy.

The Allentown Morning Call reports that Sunday Sen. Barack Obama told a "rowdy" crowd in central Pennsylvania, "You have a real choice in this election. Either Democrat would be better than John McCain. And all three of us would be better than George Bush. But you have to ask yourself who has the chance to really change things in a fundamental way.''

Sen. Hillary Clinton jumped on this remark: 'We need a nominee who will take on John McCain, not cheer on John McCain."

Clinton campaign organizers said Obama's remarks undercut Democratic efforts to tie McCain to Bush.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/2008/04/obama_any_one_of_the_3_of_us_b.html
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:31 AM
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44. Need to hear the original statement, in context.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:42 AM
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47. Another VERY short term gain and long term loss for Clinton
McCain WILL be a better president than bush because he has seen some shit in his life. He worked while fucking AWOL Bush fucked around.

So after PA I hope Obama puts an ad out SLAMMING Clinton for her remarks. And show the video of her praising McCain a bit ago.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:17 AM
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49. What bothered me is Obama said McLame would be better than Bush.
Although almost anybody would be better than Bush, McLame would actually be worse than Bush: he is openly advocating war against Iran and 100 years of Iraq occupation. Why would Obama give that idiot even the tiniest smidgeon of an endorsement? It only makes people doubt Obama's sanity.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:18 AM
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50. She's bashing Obama because Obama bashed Bush? Is she nuts? nt
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:23 AM
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52. She's nuckin' futs.
Like someone said up above, she's just on autopilot to bash anything Obama says, and she's on self-destruct.

:crazy:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:28 AM
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53. I'd like to see a link (not that I don't trust you) but if she did do this I think it's another
example of how off the deep end she has gone.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:30 AM
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54. She said Obama couldn't match McCain's experience
not that he was less qualified. Unless experience is the only qualification. Obama countered correctly that she couldn't beat McCain on experience, either.

The idea is about running against McCain as a continuation of Bush. Saying he's an iota better is unhelpful to the notion of McBush, a Bush 3rd term, etc., and gives a rationale for voting for him.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:33 AM
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55. I think she must have been sleep deprived again and was not accurate. n/t
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:37 AM
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56. Jeez...
Do Hillary supporters think it's a losing battle with her? I mean it just gets worse to be a supporter of hers. It keeps going deeper and deeper with her where you must feel you can't defend her anymore.
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