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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:50 PM
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MSNBC Calls Pennsylvania for Clinton (nt)
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 07:51 PM by Skinner
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:51 PM
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1. Shit n/t
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:51 PM
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2. Skinner, don't you wonder why they call it with only 1% of votes counted?
as an election integrity advocate, I can tell you that they
don't know what those votes are.

They haven't all been tallied up, reported or accumulated.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:52 PM
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4. They base it on exit polling too. n/t
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:53 PM
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8. Exit polls
Which historically are extremely accurate. Not saying they are this time. But thats why.

And it does look like Hillary wins. But by a SMALL lead.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:19 PM
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70. I know, I wonder
It seems every election , that people want a speedy
result ...

what's the hurry ? :think:
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:52 PM
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3. we'll see by how much, though
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:53 PM
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5. Well atleast it took over half an hour to do so.
My guess is that it is HIGHLY unlikely that Clinton won more than 10 percent
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:53 PM
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6. Congratulations to the Clinton Campaign!
...although the margin of victory is the true barometer of victory.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:53 PM
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7. Told ya
:headbang:
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:55 PM
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12. I think EVERYONE called this as a Hillary victory
But I'll give you a "Why, congratulations on displaying such supreme insight" anyways.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:00 PM
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24. Yeah, no one's really surprised at this one - except that she won despite all her lies.
That part is worrying, so many will just let a proven liar succeed. Sad.

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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:22 PM
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43. if she wins by less than 10%...
It is a victory for Obama.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:39 PM
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53. Nice way to "try" and spin a HUGE win by Hillary as meaning nothing
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:54 PM
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9. With 0% reporting?
nt
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:54 PM
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10. at 3%???
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:55 PM
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11. she was expected to win
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:55 PM
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13. How can they call it with only 3% of the vote in??
I don't get it. :shrug:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:45 PM
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54. it's weird how they do that - it's statistical, somehow
Hey my friend!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:55 PM
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14. I'm sending her a donation
Come on, folks! Let's put a Dem back in the White House!

https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/donate-b.html?sc=a724
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Austinitis Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:57 PM
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19. I am too in just a little bit.
:)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:00 PM
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25. We will!
It's just that his name will be Obama.

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Austinitis Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:05 PM
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31. You better send 5 for my 1
Because Obama apparently needs to outspend her by at least that much to make it even a close loss.


Sad...

Really, why can't he get it together?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:25 PM
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46. Done!
:woohoo: Give em hell Hill!! :kick:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:56 PM
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15. With 3% of the votes counted
They make 2004 look like serious fraud...oh yes it was serious fraud.
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:56 PM
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16. 53% - 47%
so far, not a big win.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:03 PM
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29. Is that statewide, or just Philly?
:shrug:
rocknation
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:56 PM
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17. As an Obama supporter, congrats to Clinton supporters.
Now let's see the margin! Haha.

outSPENT 3 to 1 !

I considered watching MSNBC, but seriously, doesn't everyone know everyone's lines by now?
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:56 PM
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18. Brokaw: "White Women of a Certain Age"
Oy.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:58 PM
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22. I have to say, it's giving me pause.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:59 PM
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23. Did he really say that?
Wow, that's a beaut. Good job, Brokaw, on your sophisticated analysis.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:00 PM
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26. Yup, Russert too. They are reading the demographics.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:16 PM
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40. Yes...he really said that...."wink, wink, nod, nod" was how he did it...disgusting...
:puke: Brokaw is a "man of a certain age." :rofl:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:24 PM
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44. Indeed
What do you reckon his Viagra bill comes to?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:01 PM
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27. I'm a teenager compared to Brokaw
better educated, too.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:03 PM
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30. Russert & Brokaw say it's Older (50+), No College, White Women doing this.
I have no idea if you fit that demographic, but those are the demographics they say are keeping this primary going. Russert said that voting bloc just wants a lady candidate, the general election doesn't matter to them beyond that.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:11 PM
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34. Over 50, post graduate degree
Most Clinton supporters I know are the same, also a lot of PhDs. Most of the physicians I know support her too, men and women.



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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:14 PM
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37. Well, it sounds like you do fit most of that demographic then, unless you're non-white. -eom
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:31 PM
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51. My grandmother is very bitter about this election.....
She had it in her head that Clinton was going to be the first woman President. She was one of the same kind of voters in Ohio, absolutely refused to even think of not voting for Clinton. She is 78 years old, white, didn't attend college because she had four kids, and the sweetest little old lady you could ever meet.

I think I can talk her into voting for Obama in the General, there are some racial issues to work out but not too bad anymore. But I'm just pointing to the differences in every single kind of person, especially little old white ladies. :-)
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:11 PM
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33. The condescension doesn't help Obama
Someone should notify the MSNBC team about that.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:12 PM
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35. Brokaw's mad cause a Dem will win the WH
He'll probably dis anyone who beats McCain.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:16 PM
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39. Uh, that came from demographic info by Russert & Brokaw. -eom
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:18 PM
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41. Not the descriptions
I don't watch MSNBC because the commentators are so biased for Obama, it's annoying. Demos are one thing, but if he really described "women of a certain age" who don't care about the election & "just want to see a lady", that's massively condescending. It's the same kind of thing that turned off working-class voters.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:21 PM
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42. Russert said "over 50", no college, white women. Brokaw said "of a certain age" -eom
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:26 PM
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47. I'm Watching MSNBC Because They're So Blatantly Tossing It To Obama
It's entertainment, all this equivocating.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:57 PM
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20. And now Brokaw is saying it's because of the Old Uneducated White Woman vote too.
Tim Russert already said that voting bloc is what is keeping this primary going - they just want a lady candidate.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:58 PM
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21. Expected, and with a margin so narrow it doesn't even help clinton.
Sweet. Would have preferred a win, but hey - Obama's still winning handily.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:01 PM
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28. Thanks!
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:10 PM
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32. how
can they call it yet...?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:13 PM
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36. Great!
They called that pretty quick.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:14 PM
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38. Wow! And so many people were calling for Hillary Clinton
to throw in the towel!!111!

:wow:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:25 PM
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45. WOOT WOOT!
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:27 PM
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48. Can you all say "brokered convention"?
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:50 PM
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59. Can we all say "AL GORE"?
I like Hillary, but still - :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:06 PM
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65. I do not like Hillary
but I sure as hell can say AL GORE!
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:58 PM
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63. If it goes that way...
it'll be a loss for the Dem come November.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:08 PM
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66. It will be a loss for the Dems in November
if Clinton manages to steal the nomination.

If it's Al Gore, we win!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:28 PM
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49. With 16% reporting CNN has Clinton @ 53%
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:28 PM
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50. That's nice Skinner. What the fuck kind of post is this?
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:34 PM
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52. ?
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:46 PM
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55. Yeah, that was my thought, it seems quite telling to me. Either
he is for Clinton or he is overly enjoying the vitriol on the site and is perhaps instigating some more for the evening.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:49 PM
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58. Whoa! Chill out y'all!


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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:54 PM
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61. Luv ya Swamp. I have a problem with the owner.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:57 PM
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62. Thanks
What did he do that was wrong, regarding this thread? :shrug:



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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:04 PM
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64. Starting it. He should have done a puppet if he felt so inclined.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:08 PM
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67. Chillax. He stated a fact with no opinion.
He didn't so much as offer congrats or throw in a "YAY! HILLARY!" anywhere.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:12 PM
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68. Yeah, maybe you're right.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:46 PM
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56. Congrats nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:47 PM
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57. Congrats Hillary Clinton!
:applause:



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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:51 PM
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60. It comes down to margin now and it seems likely Clinton won't get the kind of big victory she needed
Obama made up a lot of ground. Don't you agree, Skinner?
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 09:13 PM
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69. What else can I do in response to that news...
But kick this thread again!

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