Howard Fineman on MSNBC just said Elizabeth Edwards may be campaigning with Hillary in N.C.

[rodeodance]

Howard Fineman on MSNBC just said Elizabeth Edwards may be campaigning with Hillary in N.C. Yes!

[Maven]

1. Awesome!

[rodeodance]

5. yes, hope it works out.

[rodeodance]

2. and Hillary has raised 2.5 M. so far tonight-----------Go Hillary

[jillan]

11. Wow! That is excellent!!!

wooohoo :bounce:

[rodeodance]

23. Grand night the gal. She has worked hard for this win.

[bobbert]

33. I don't know how much she spent on the weekend ads

but I suspect it's only a couple million more before she can start paying her loan back

[DemBones DemBones]

58. Obama spent $11 million in PA, Clinton spent only $3 million and won!

But thanks for caring!

[bobbert]

64. Obama also doesn't have a $5 million prize at stakes

[rwheeler31]

3. That would be horrid.

[rodeodance]

8. It would be honor for Eliz to join Hillary on the trail.

[Condem]

4. Then again, she might not be.

[rodeodance]

10. I am optimistic --like Hillary's campaign--not bitter.

[Condem]

14. Hey, Rodeo

Great win. Howard Fineman is well.... Howard Fineman.

[rodeodance]

21. thanks Condem

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[still_one]

6. If fineman is right about this, it will be news that he got one prediction right

[rodeodance]

13. curios--what he get wrong??

[still_one]

26. I can't give you anything specific, but these talking heads have not been particularly correct

about the campaign, the economy, Iraq etc.

As an Obama supporter if Hillary gets Elizabeth Edwards to campaign with her, congratulations, it is a plus to her campaign

[rodeodance]

45. thanks --i hope it works out for Hillary. most pundits drive me crazy--esp Fineman!

[still_one]

66. me too, especially the financial pundits /nt

[DJ13]

7. Thats like signing up to be a crewmember on the Titanic

[Catchawave]

20. These are strong women, they can swim! n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

57. You sound. . . bitter. Do you have something to cling to?

Hillary kicked Obama's ass tonight, again! And ahe has raised over $2.5 million since the polls closed in PA, 80% from new donors!

So you can be bitter all you want but we're happy.

[usregimechange]

9. I may not live to be be 60yo, then again I may...

[MADem]

12. Well, who does indeed have the BETTER health care plan?

And someone with cancer should have the right, and the room, to weigh in!

I can't wait to see confirmation, if it does appear.


It will make a difference, NATIONALLY, if not locally.

If it is true, and I hope it is...

[rodeodance]

17. gawd--i hope it is true. Eliz already has said that Hillary has the better plan.

[MADem]

28. I am with you.

And Edwards was one of my favorites at the start of this biz...and I did think he was the stronger feller on the ticket in 04.

Note I'm from MA....what does that tell ya?

Kerry's lameass endorsement did not sway me at all...I really thought his wife was a stronger candidate than he was!

[KittyWampus]

19. you mean health INSURANCE plan. If you cared about honesty.

[MADem]

22. Ewww, let's parse!!! NT

[rodeodance]

27. you make ASSumptions about what I care about and look FOOLISH --but you are correct.

[libbygurl]

35. Yep, and the first step towards *genuine* universal health care, too.

[Maddy McCall]

15. 5th rec!

[rodeodance]

18. great. thanks

[Condem]

24. Rodeo

I never asked you, yet. Springsteen endorsing Obama. Foreman says these jobs are going, boys, and they aint coming back. Thoughts?

[rodeodance]

34. i love Bruce. He chose Obama. no problem. Bruce has always

sung for the worker. i do not understand his decision--but it is his.

those trad. manufacturing jobs are lost. but i do not think bruce
reseached Hillary's new economic --green jobs program--which i posted today (on her website also)--lot of kerry thoughts in there from 2004--like a
'FDR--put americans to work" program.


and coupled with her health insur. program--is a great start for
working families.

[Condem]

40. Rodeo, damn , good answer.

Still, the Bard from New Jersey - he GETS it alot more than any economist, professor -whatever. It has to be tough for you. The man speaks to how many generations?

[rodeodance]

43. thanks. No, not really tough. After all, he traveled with kerry also. endorsements

come and go. sure, they have benefits but i think people put too
much weight in endorsements.

[Condem]

49. Again, Rodeo. Great win. Celebrate.

[rodeodance]

50. i am happy for Hillary. That is my celebration. thanks for the conversation. sleepy.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

25. If she does, is she going to mention Farrakhan, Ayers, and Rev. Wright every chance she gets?

Is she going to talk about "obliterating" Iran too?

I sure hope not. :(

[libbygurl]

37. You're the one mentioning them. Health care coverage more likely to be her topic.

Too much bitter arugula for the night?

[DemBones DemBones]

59. Don't insult arugula! I love it and it is not bitter,

though it might get bitter if you let it go to seed.

[rodeodance]

80. :-)

[rodeodance]

39. i do not have a crystal ball. But you might have a crack in yours.

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[ingac70]

29. Fineman is a right wing dick...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/01/top10_2001_39.html

The Top Ten Conservative Idiots (Week 39)

"Howard Fineman
In the wake of the September 11 attacks, we suppose it was inevitable that the media would "rally 'round the president" to a certain degree. (Why, he's got the best qualities of Reagan, FDR, and Lincoln — with the rugged good looks of JFK to boot!) But in case you haven't yet been convinced that Bush/43 strides the globe like a proverbial giant, Howard Fineman has got conclusive proof — proof! — that you are not only an idiot, but also a shameless partisan who just needs to get over that whole 2000 election thing. The Newsweek/MSNBC "journalist" (and Whore of the Week at Media Whores Online) has given all of us one more reason to bow down before the altar that is Dubya: All of Al Gore's Top Advisors are "relieved" that our current president is George W. Bush, and not that other guy with the beard who lied all the time about inventing the Internet. Says not-so-Fineman: "with almost audible sighs of relief, some top people who worked for Al Gore privately tell me they are glad (relieved might be a better word) that George Bush — not Bill Clinton’s veep — is in the White House now." Never mind that he only quotes four people — all anonymous. (Editor's note: Remember how Gore ran that presidential campaign last year with only four people?) Fineman's real kicker is the reason that they are glad that Gore is not in charge: "The Republican Right would have been all over us." Did you catch that, folks? Gore would have done a bad job, because Republicans can't put aside their hate, even in a time of national crisis."

[DemBones DemBones]

56. That doesn't mean he's lying, though, does it?

You just wish it did because Elizabeth Edwards is very popular.

Obama went to visit John and Eluzabeth to seek their support months ago and allegedly got into a bit of an argument with Elizabeth. Told her she was wrong about something she said.

Not much of a diplomat, yet another way he is like *.

[ingac70]

73. Fineman always lies. n/t

[rodeodance]

82. we will see

[turkishroyal]

30. I don't think it realy matters...

Elizabeth Edwards doesn't really have any political sway.

[1776Forever]

31. I will have to wait to see on that one BUT they are all Bilderbergers members after all..Link.......

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2004/060704edwardsatbilderberg.htm

[Pastiche423]

47. So true

That's why it bothers me so that some DUers are supporting and voting for DLC Bilderbergers.

GACK!

[kwenu]

32. I'll believe it when I see it. Elizabeth is doing no such thing until John declares his support.

[rodeodance]

36. Eliz has already publicly stated her support for Hillary's plan. She is a

woman who can decide for herself. But they are a family and i suspect
they will discuss it.

[splat]

38. Fineman said John probably wouldn't declare, but she would

[rodeodance]

41. i think if John was to endorse-he would have done it by now. just my opine.

[kwenu]

42. I don't understand how Fineman would know that and if he had first hand

information he needed to say that.

[DemBones DemBones]

60. You think John owns Elizabeth, keeps her from doing what she wants?

I don't think that's the case at all. Remember that she already said on one of the network morning shows that HRC's health care plan was the better one when compared to Obama's.

She can campaign for HRC without John getting involved in any campaign if that's his choice.

[IndianaJones]

44. is she bitter or a typical white person? nt.

[rodeodance]

46. she did not sound bitter tonight but BHO sure sounded ticked off.

[question everything]

48. And did he say this with tears in his eyes, all shaking?

I have stopped watching MSNBC and for them to admit anything like that took a lot of effort.

[Maddy McCall]

51. This is such good news! I hope hope hope it's true. This is as huge as...

Hillary's double-digit win tonight!

[bobbert]

55. yes it's as big as her 8.6% double digit win!

[DemBones DemBones]

61. It was 10% when I turned off the tv, two hours after you posted this,

so I think you may be mistaken, and I can see you are bitter about Hillary's win. I don't know why people are surprised that she won.

[MattBaggins]

53. This would be a hoot

Elizabeth endorses and campaigns on behalf of Clinton
John endorses and campaigns on behalf of Obama

They keep it civil make sure to do regular media appearances together and remind folks that it is about our Nation first, our Party second and the candidates a very very distant third.

[DemBones DemBones]

62. . . .

:rofl:

[autorank]

54. If that happens, it will be telling n/t

[RememberWellstone]

63. Elvis is supporting Hill.

Princess Diana is also on board. Hearsay, is what you say with what they say.

[WinkyDink]

65. It will be interesting to read the Hate Elizabeth threads here.

[LVjinx]

83. Won't it, though?

[Clintonista2]

67. K&R.

[qanda]

68. That would be very disappointing

As negative as Hillary has been, I would think Elizabeth above that. I hope this isn't true.

[avrdream]

69. That would be sweet!

Although she did give kudos to Hillary's health plan last week, I'm not sure I believe Fineman AT ALL.

[datopbanana]

70. not to be realistic but unless she's a SD an endorsement means....

0.

Especially this late in the game. People are set.

[Vinca]

71. That's nice - hope she isn't promoting Hillary's health insurance plan.

It's kind of embarrassing that we have 2 Democrats with insurance schemes rather than someone promoting true single payer, universal healthcare. Neither candidate appreciates how poor people are becoming in this country. They should see the people at my local grocery store returning 5 cent cans to buy food. Healthcare should be available to all and paid out of a common pot. Offering a $700 a month policy to a poor person is nothing more than lip service to a serious problem. If Hillary supported the Kucinich plan, I would actually jump ship and support her, lies and all, but it will never happen.

[rodeodance]

81. Eliz has already endorsed Hillary's plan

[indimuse]

72. Are you kidding?

omg...that would be awesome!



K&R! :)

[Emillereid]

74. If so, then everything she seemed to stand for during John's campaign was a lie -

I find it unimaginable that the Edwards could support someone who uses the tactics of Hillary. If Elizabeth is simply supporting the vagina ( a la Marianne Williamson) in the campaign, then she does not have the integrity I thought she had. (no I'm not sexist - I'm a woman and not a self loathing one at that - I'm one of that dying breed of woman who actually stands on principles above gender.)

[ElsewheresDaughter]

77. oh jesus.......watch out Elizabeth

here comes the O bus!

[Emillereid]

79. That bus is called principles! Good old fashioned democratic principles!

[LVjinx]

84. LOL. Principles? The Obama campaign?

[farmboy]

85. Your words and your attitude do more harm to Obama than anything H.C. has done. Elizabeth Edwards

has so much wisdom and so much goodness and so much care for her fellow human beings that to demean her with your shallowness makes her choice of Hillary, if she so decides, all the more appealing and makes all the more sense.

This is coming from someone in N.C. that has yet to make a decision between the two and who will always think that John Edwards was the best and most progressive choice for the country.

Once you think you have absolute knowledge, right on your side only, certainty about who between Obama and Hillary is the only correct choice, to the point of "I won't vote for the other in the fall campaign", you have lost site of the big picture, and have let down yourself and all Americans, as far as I am concerned.

Be afraid for the country you will be helping to guide and the direction you will be guiding it into with a Republican president and Supreme Court for a long, long, long time....longer than the lives of many people who write here at DU everyday.

[redqueen]

75. Well John sure can't, after what he said about her.

Elizabeth would even surprise me, as she had the sense to be against the war from the start. Guess healthcare trumps the war in her opinion.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

76. Elizabeth knows who is the better candidate

[Skwmom]

78. I guess they've given up on any chance of Edwards as Pres.

b/c after backing Clinton good luck on Edwards ever getting the netroots support again.