Clinton frames win as sign of strength---and Photos over time..........

[rodeodance]

Clinton frames win as sign of strength

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080423/pl_politico/9811;_ylt=Ane8GI7nGQztmAcB96m9E4qs0NUE


Ben Smith Wed Apr 23, 5:38 AM ET

PHILADELPHIA -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton celebrated another must-win victory Tuesday night in Pennsylvania, with a convincing win over Sen. Barack Obama that she sought to frame not just as a sign of her strength but of Obama's abiding weakness.

"Maybe the question ought to be, 'Why can't he close the deal?'" Clinton said Tuesday morning outside a polling place in Conshohocken, Pa.
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"You made your voices heard, and because of you, the tide is turning," she said Tuesday night.
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But Clinton's victory ensured that the primary will continue, and the results revealed many of the same patterns of strength and weakness that have been present in many of the Democratic contests. Indeed, Pennsylvania seemed to be a close replay of the March 5 Ohio primary, which Clinton won by a slightly wider margin. Clinton won heavily among working-class and older white voters, among women and among Catholics.

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But Obama's defeat marked a departure from modern nomination fights, in which the media-christened front-runner typically cruises to victory. Clinton's campaign immediately used her victory to argue to the superdelegates -- the party leaders who hold the balance of votes at the Democratic National Convention -- that Obama can't win in November.

"There's beginning to be a subtle shift of psychology of a lot of the uncommitted supers," said Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee. " are beginning to wonder why Obama has been unable to win this thing despite all the advantages he has."
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The demographic patterns in the exit polls have grown familiar, with Clinton winning the working class white "Reagan Democrats" and Catholics who are seen as key to victory in the general election.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2007/11/03/in_depth_politics/photoessay3448535.shtml

Firsts

Hillary Rodham Clinton has been in the public eye for some 40 years, her face one of the best-known in the world. She has been both admired and reviled with great intensity. She is a First Lady full of other firsts - the first student to speak at her college commencement; the first First Lady to become a United States Senator; the first woman to be treated seriously as a candidate for president of the United States. (Photo: AP / Getty Images)




Here she speaks at her 60th birthday celebration at the Beacon Theater in New York, with former President Bill Clinton, and their daughter Chelsea, listening. (Photo: STAN HONDA/AFP/Getty Images)









Here she is with classmates in a 1964 yearbook photo, when she was a junior – and junior class vice-president.




Clinton's father, Hugh Rodham, who had a textile business, was "a staunch conservative," her mother, homemaker Dorothy Rodham, "more liberal." Clinton started out as a supporter of Barry Goldwater, but became a Democrat in college. Here her parents fuss over her in a New York hotel room during the Democratic National Convention, in July, 1992. (Photo: AP Photo/Ron Frehm)




Clinton recently returned to her alma mater, Wellesley College. "In so many ways, this all-women's college prepared me to compete in the all-boys club of presidential politics," she told the students. In 1969, president of the student government, she delivered a commencement address - "We're searching for more immediate, ecstatic and penetrating mode of living" – that led to her first TV, newspaper and magazine coverage. (Photo: AP Photo/Elise Amendola)




Mother, Children's Advocate

Clinton gave birth to Chelsea on February 27, 1980, while First Lady of Arkansas. Her primary focus had been on children's issues. She did research at the Yale Child Study Center, and worked as first staff attorney for the Children's Defense Fund. The title of first book, in 1995, was based on the African proverb "It takes a village to raise a child". (Photo: AP Photo/Donald R. Broyles)

[HockeyMom]

1. We are going to see a President McCain

I have thought that from the very beginning. As time goes by, the more I am convinced of that.

[rodeodance]

2. nah--people are eager to hear both Dem candidates--they are enjoying

the stump speeches and interation.

its just the pundits who are manufacturing the doom and gloom stories.

[totodeinhere]

5. I agree. So why not go ahead and nominate Obama if he leads in pledged delegates?

Either Dem should win in November, so lets' nominate the front runner.

[rodeodance]

7. you said you agreed. So it stop the

process--you would would be stopping the people from voting.

[totodeinhere]

18. Nobody can cancel the remaining primaries.

Heck, the GOP is still holding primaries even though they already have a presumptive nominee. So by all means let the people vote, but in the end Obama will have more pledged delegates. So he should get the nomination since either Dem should win in November. If Obama can win in November and he also has more pledged delegates, then what possible rationale could there be to deny him the nomination?

[rodeodance]

22. big states

[totodeinhere]

57. What about big states?

Are you telling me that Obama can't win blue states like New York, California, or Massachusetts? With the economy going down the tubes he should wins those states in a landslide.

[rodeodance]

60. Do a search for jackson dem. He will teach you lots related to your comments

[totodeinhere]

65. I am already well aware of this poster and I have already debated this subject with him in several..

other threads. In fact, while I often disagree with him I find him to be someone who at least can be reasoned with.

[rodeodance]

72. yes, i agree.

[Mimosa]

6. No, there will not be a President McCain

As a quasi-psychic, I'm going out on a limb here. IMO, there will not be a President McCain simply because when push comes to shove, McCain will be perceived as 'too old' by the majority of voters.

[rodeodance]

8. i do not agree with your reason.

[HockeyMom]

21. I remember at the time

they said the same about Reagan. We know how that turned out.

[JoFerret]

42. If we don't elect Clinton you may be right

Lots of arguing over the Obama demographics and I can't truly say I understand them all yet but iI do see real problems ahead should Obama be our nominee.

[rodeodance]

3. She is a First Lady full of other firsts

[rodeodance]

4. Lawyer, Congressional Aide, Wife...

Lawyer, Congressional Aide, Wife...

Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton and his wife Hillary enter the White House Feb. 27, 1979 to attend a dinner honoring the nation's governors. She had met Bill Clinton while both were students at Yale Law School, and married him in 1975. Before that, she had researched the problems of migrant workers for a Senatorial committee and served on the staff on the House committee investigating the Watergate scandal. (Photo: AP Photo)

[LSparkle]

9. So she deserves the nomination ... like another Oscar for her mantel?

Just because she's had a bunch of "first"s in her life doesn't mean she's
(ooh, here comes that nasty, but in this case appropriate, word)
ENTITLED to it.

[rodeodance]

10. stop being rude-.Both are working hard to be nominated.

[LSparkle]

12. Obama has a bunch of his own "first"s ...

In this race, she's not unique in her trailblazing.

[rodeodance]

14. I never said she was---Please start your own thread for his Firsts

[SeaLyons]

11. Beautiful Post...

She had a great win in PA. She's on her way. Love the pics.
Thanks for posting, Rodeo.

Madam President!!

:kick:

[rodeodance]

15. thanks for dropping by

[rodeodance]

13. Clinton Snags Tennessee Superdelegate--Tanner

Clinton Snags Tennessee Superdelegate

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Rep. John Tanner, a prominent Blue Dog Democrat, backs the New York Senator.



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[Maddy McCall]

16. Love the photo of Bill and Hillary with baby Chelsea.

K/R

[rodeodance]

34. I had not seen that one either.

[Vinca]

17. WHAT?? "Hugh, who had a textile business?"

Why . . . didn't I hear Hill telling a sweet tale about her dad working at the lace factory in Pennsylvania? Just a home town girl with daddy making lace at the local plant? Uh huh. A hardscrabble life . . . just like the blue collar workers in PA. As the Church Lady might say, "How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient.":rofl:

[rodeodance]

24. i do not know what story you heard. Link please.

[Vinca]

26. It was part of her PA stump speech. No link. I actually listen to her. nt

[rodeodance]

31. i have heard most of them. What is your point?? You mocking lace??

[Vinca]

44. Love lace. Hate lies. Was dear old dad a common factory worker -

like all those downtrodden Pennsylvanians - or did he own the plant? Apparently, according to your post, it's the latter. At least she wasn't under sniper fire. As far as we know.

[rodeodance]

46. You make ASSumptions and look like a fool.

......Love lace. Hate lies. Was dear old dad a common factory worker -
Posted by Vinca


like all those downtrodden Pennsylvanians - or did he own the plant? Apparently, according to your post, it's the latter. At least she wasn't under sniper fire. As far as we know.

[Vinca]

48. I've been trying not to do this - trying to listen to everyone and all that -

but, consider yourself #4 on my ignore list. Buh bye.

[rodeodance]

74. you lie and mock.

[walldude]

28. Grandfather worked in the lace mill...

What's conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient is she uses her grandfather to demonstrate he ties to the "blue collars" not her father. The quote was "where my father was raised and my grandfather worked in a lace factory. No lies, just smart wording. If nothing else I'll give her that, she knows how to manipulate people.

[rodeodance]

32. Mill work is mill work. Why do you belittle a man's work?-who supports his family.

[walldude]

53. I'm not belittling anyone's work..

I belittling the candidates choice to use her grandfather as proof that she's "down with the blue collars". Especially since her dad wasn't blue collar, she had to go back a generation.

You are so deep in at this point that anything anyone says is an automatic red flag for you, no matter what they say. I actually bothered to correct the poster who claimed she lied about her father. More than any Hillary supporter did for her, yet you felt the need to challenge something I said, that I didn't actually say. Nice. Next time you debunk the lie.

[rodeodance]

63. You are using his work to make cheap Political points.

[walldude]

66. ME? That was her who used him to make points..

I was correcting another poster and giving my opinion on what she did. Funny how you see this as me but not her, trying to score political points when I was responding to something she said. Her comments were just "history", is that right? She wasn't using her grandfather to score political points with the blue collar workers. That wasn't her that was me, does that about sum it up? :rofl:

Like I said, next time do your own fucking leg work. You couldn't even take the time to accurately correct the poster who claimed your candidate was lying. All you seem to have time for is imaginary slights. Get a grip.

[Triana]

19. "why Obama has been unable to win this thing despite all the advantages he has."

THAT is the clearest case of PROJECTION I've ever seen, speaking of PSYCHOLOGY:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projection_bias


Why WHO has been unable to win this thing despite all the advantages SHE has? Hillary is PROJECTING her own situation and her OWN inability to win onto Obama.

She is obviously a very disturbed and confused woman, not to mention a narcissist.

[rodeodance]

25. "You is obviously a very disturbed and confused person not to mention a narcissist" how fun

to play to silly games.

[Catherina]

20. Where's the picture of the 12 year old girl she said wanted to be raped

In terms of what's good for the little girl? It would have been hell on the victim. But that wasn't Hillary's problem."

The victim, now 46, told Newsday that she was raped by Taylor, denied that she wanted any relationship with him and blamed him for contributing to three decades of severe depression and other personal problems.

"It's not true, I never sought out older men - I was raped," the woman said in an interview in the fall. Newsday is withholding her name as the victim of a sex crime.

With all the anguish she'd felt over the case in the years since, there was one thing she never realized - that the lawyer for the man she reviles was none other than Hillary Rodham Clinton.

...

"I have been informed that the complainant is emotionally unstable with a tendency to seek out older men and to engage in fantasizing," wrote Rodham, without referring to the source of that allegation. "I have also been informed that she has in the past made false accusations about persons, claiming they had attacked her body."

...

Rodham's fluency on the topic is evident in her filings. "I have ... been told by an expert in child psychology that children in early adolescence tend to exaggerate or romanticize sexual experience and that adolescents with disorganized families, such as the complainant's, are even more prone to such behavior," she wrote in her July 28 affidavit. "She exhibits an unusual stubbornness and temper when she does not get her way."

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ny-usark245589997feb24,0,2670956.story?page=2

[rodeodance]

23. oh go take your smut to a RW smear site--you sound just like one the them--smearing a Democrat.

[Catherina]

27. I thought you cared about rape victims and feminist issues?

Or is that a front for something else? Your reaction makes no sense.

That's some weird feminism ya got going there.

[rodeodance]

33. stop mocking me. Go play your silly games elsewhere

[Catherina]

37. I'm not mocking you. You said you cared. I took you at your word

:shrug:

[rodeodance]

39. yes you are and I do not appreciate it. Stop spaming this thread. Go start your own.

[Catherina]

40. Or what?

You'll throw a hissyfit? Rodeodance if you want to control answers, start a blog.

[rodeodance]

47. or you will continue be viewed as acting like school-yard rude bully.

[Catherina]

49. I'm scared now. It's 3am and there's a monster under my bed. Hold me tight Rodeo

It's growling and making scary faces

:scared:

[LulaMay]

50. rodeo posts some of the best OP's and sound replies here.....you, the worst. Juvenile.

[Catherina]

70. ! LulaMay. Coming from you

:rofl:

[JoFerret]

45. A very sick distortion worthy of freeperville ranters

There are plenty of reasons to not like Hillary Clinton as a preferred candidate. That is not one of them.

[LulaMay]

51. You're 'comment' is sick. You mock rape victims as a tool for your insulting post. Shame on you.

[Leftist Agitator]

29. Oh, that Hillary!

"Maybe the question ought to be, 'Why can't he close the deal?'"

Well, that's an easy one, Hills... Because you persist in tilting at electoral windmills long after it serves any usefulness.

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

35. oh stop playing the victim. saddle up---several primaries to go.

[Leftist Agitator]

43. I'm sure that Senator Obama will come out on top of the majority of those primaries...

And make your Queen look like a fool in the process, though she does a fine job of that all by herself.

:eyes:

[rodeodance]

78. name-calling is so IMMATURE

[Leftist Agitator]

79. I didn't call you any names.

And it's very dishonest of you to claim that I did.

[rodeodance]

30. Reuters~~Clinton says she can win White House for Democrats

Clinton says she can win White House for Democrats

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080423/pl_nm/usa_politics_dc;_ylt=Aomyqte.w02BZ5DNMIfL31Cs0NUE


By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent 1 hour, 33 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama entered the final phase of an increasingly nasty U.S. presidential fight on Wednesday, and Clinton said her decisive Pennsylvania win proved she was the best candidate to lead the Democrats back to the White House.


Clinton's victory boosted her depleted bank account and gave new hope to her struggling campaign, but the New York senator still faces a daunting task trying to overtake Obama's lead in pledged delegates who will help select the Democratic presidential nominee at the August convention.

She said Obama's failure to knock her out of the race, despite outspending her in Pennsylvania more than 2-to-1, cast doubt on his ability to capture the big states Democrats need in November's election race against Republican John McCain.

"I've won the states we have to win -- Ohio, now Pennsylvania," Clinton told CNN. "If you look at the broad base of support that I have accumulated it really is the foundation on which we build our victory come the fall."………


Reuters Photo: U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) campaigns at American Legion Mall in Indianapolis,...

[rodeodance]

36. Clinton wins most delegates in Pennsylvania primary (AP)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/primary_delegates;_ylt=At5yBta7iUP2ESS6YNR_yEH8B2YD


Clinton wins most delegates in Pennsylvania primary

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer Wed Apr 23, 1:47 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won the most delegates in Pennsylvania's Democratic primary.


Clinton won at least 81 of the 158 delegates up for grabs in Tuesday's contest, according to an analysis of election returns by The Associated Press. Sen. Barack Obama won at least 70, with seven still to be awarded.

The final delegate count was delayed because many of Pennsylvania's counties are split into multiple congressional districts. Pennsylvania awards delegates according to the statewide vote as well as the vote in individual congressional districts.

Election officials were expected to continue working Wednesday to assign votes from split counties to the appropriate congressional districts.

Also Wednesday, Obama and Clinton each picked up a superdelegate endorsement.

[Cant trust em]

38. If she's really strong, then she doesn't have to "frame" anything

[rodeodance]

59. I have you framed as a bitter sour grape

[Cant trust em]

64. I just think it was a poor choice of headlines

[Straight Shooter]

41. I don't want her to repeat MSM blather such as "why can't he close the deal"

Other than that, I'm very impressed at the tenacity she has shown, not just in this campaign, but throughout her adulthood.

I love the pic of her in the green suit, with her hair worn long. It boggles my mind that Bill would ever look at another woman, much less pursue an affair, but I've often wondered the same thing about other men I've known who cheat on their wives/girlfriends.

[LulaMay]

54. Well, why can't he??! Outspends her and loses by 10 points.

[Straight Shooter]

71. I'm not disputing the sentiment of it, I just want her to keep it positive.

:hi:

[zabet]

52. k and r

Love the pics! Great post rodeo...Thanks! :thumbsup:

[LulaMay]

55. Thank you for the beautiful pictures. You always have the best posts!

[rodeodance]

58. nah--Bigtree is tops

[LulaMay]

68. Bigtree is great!

[dpbrown]

56. What a beautiful set of photos

Thanks!

:thumbsup:

[rodeodance]

61. back to yah.

[madrchsod]

62. 1964.......god what awful clothes

but we were so much older then, we are younger than that now......

[saracat]

67. Thank you! Wonderful thread!

[rodeodance]

75. :-)

[kikiek]

69. Great tribute to a great lady. Thanks Rodeo for taking the time.

[rodeodance]

73. I would like folks to get to know her better. i was a pleasure.

[Why Syzygy]

76. It was her HOME state. Gloating over winning your home state? Yeah. Real Strong.

She is weak.

[rodeodance]

77. ~~I AM WOMAN ~~HEAR ME ROAR~~ yes, she is a strong woman.